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Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#21 - 2013-05-25 17:58:03 UTC
chris elliot wrote:
Personal record for number of holes connected to the same one is 12. 7 incoming and 5 outgoing.


I have that DVD. Ugh

http://www.wormholes.info
Kestrix
The Whispering
#22 - 2013-05-25 18:27:42 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
how in the HELL is that a nerf?
would be the best buff ever.


There are some players that moved into WH space to get away from other players... Tis a bad day indeed if I'm forced to interact with other players in my WH because of too many connecting Wh's (gets in the way of making ISK).
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#23 - 2013-05-25 18:55:16 UTC
Kestrix wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
how in the HELL is that a nerf?
would be the best buff ever.


There are some players that moved into WH space to get away from other players... Tis a bad day indeed if I'm forced to interact with other players in my WH because of too many connecting Wh's (gets in the way of making ISK).


If you feel bad about interacting with other players in a multiplayer game, I think you might want to go here.

In any case, WHs are not meant to be separate from the rest of the game.
Sandslinger
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-05-25 19:17:43 UTC
ProbeAlt2 wrote:
Hello I wonder if other corporations have noticed a significant increase in conection wormholes
I wonder if this is a bad week we go through on the presence of these wormholes or a permant nerf of wormholes (that is to say not one static, but four - five Wormhole regulary)



Lol

Nerf ........

Nerf to you Boon to me :P

Prepare your vocal chords poster Twisted
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-05-25 22:43:00 UTC
chris elliot wrote:
Euthanasia Anneto wrote:
ProbeAlt2 wrote:


well how can we do sites if there 5 corporation right next door, that mean impossible to run sites, well that reduce significantly money income, which mean nerf of wromholes

Well, you can have up to 6 connections to your WH. So be glad it's only 5.
You might be happy that probably 4 of them 5 might be carebears, so you could easily cycle those hole's and do your ratting.



Personal record for number of holes connected to the same one is 12. 7 incoming and 5 outgoing.



Yeah there's no cap. It just becomes statistically unlikely at a certain point to get any more incoming/outgoing connections. Otherwise those C2s with c5/NS could get potentially "locked" because they'd stack up to your magic number (6 in this case) with 4 wanderings and never be accessible.

Svo.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Winthorp
#26 - 2013-05-25 22:55:19 UTC
Why do you consider interactions with other people or hell other WH's full of sites to run a nerf?
Rengerel en Distel
#27 - 2013-05-25 22:55:25 UTC
I had 2 HS holes from my WH, and 2 random guys came in from each side and started talking in local to each other. They said they were both practicing their scanning for Odyssey. So, I'd agree with others that people are just scanning more, and opening up more chains. With how easy it will be with Odyssey, I'd expect a lot more chains opening from random daytrippers.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#28 - 2013-05-25 23:29:11 UTC
yeah i had a bunch of k162s in my system tonight and a lot of traffic. quite surprised me even though it was the weekend. if this is a taste of what is to come then i like it.

forums.  serious business.
Lexar Mundi
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2013-05-26 06:25:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexar Mundi
If you think having another wormhole opening up into your area is a bad thing I am guessing you don't know how to farm wormholes. 90% of my income comes from the wormhole next door, and not the wormhole i live in.


For the extra holes:
Granted this has yet to be 100% proven, BUT if you have a K162 leading into your wormhole someone had to warp to it from the named side. For example when i warp to a B274 the K162 apears out in high sec the second i start my warp to the wormhole. More K162s opening up into your wormhole system mean more players living in wormholes who open their connectors. That is why if you don't warp to a wormhole the timer does not start. It has to be "opened" by warping to it first.
Britta Nolen
Sama Guild
#30 - 2013-05-26 07:25:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Britta Nolen
Last night b4 DT i checked and had no incoming WH's. The servers were back in less than 10 minutes. I waited as it counted down. Logged in right away, and found a new k162 leading to a C4. I am quick with logon scanning, ie, i launch a probe b4 it emergency warps. So maybe CCP did make a change.

The corp on the other side were a bunch of bitches though. I missed tackle on that stabbed orca. They have 5 pilots online, 2 in a domi, onyx, tengu & something else. They still REFUSED to PVP against a nighthawk, scorp, and prophecy. J154109, Rorqual, & orca in forcefields. Their tower also has **** for defense since it has 4 corp hangars, sma and intensive refining array online. Russian corp from Red alliance.
Kestrix
The Whispering
#31 - 2013-05-26 08:36:33 UTC
Lexar Mundi wrote:
If you think having another wormhole opening up into your area is a bad thing I am guessing you don't know how to farm wormholes. 90% of my income comes from the wormhole next door, and not the wormhole I live in..


I bet you have people on-line with you as well. 99% of the time I'm on-line I'm the sole member of my alliance in the worm hole. Given the fact that solo PvP in a worm hole is almost always suicide (for me anyway), any sign of hostile's in my worm hole and I POS up and log off. More connections to my worm hole means a greater chance someone else being in there with me. I make enough ISK from PI to cover my POS fuel bill so not running sites is not the end of the world but it does have a knock on effect with regards to the size of my wallet.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#32 - 2013-05-26 08:59:05 UTC
Kestrix wrote:
I bet you have people on-line with you as well. 99% of the time I'm on-line I'm the sole member of my alliance in the worm hole.


I...think I see the real problem here...

http://www.wormholes.info
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#33 - 2013-05-26 09:15:31 UTC
Null resident here, last couple of weeks there's been a rash of WHs so much that our alliance database isn't being updated enough.
So occasionally we get PVP gang come in from a WH.
i smacked one group so hard from inside a station that they all put millions on my bounty, reinforcing the notion that WH residents are super rich, love to win but hate to play if they can't win.
Another group scouted our carebears, swarmed in with tech3 gang and ecm and logi, immediately ran away from our HD fleet, then dropped archon reps to fight the few BCs we sent in after em.
Seriously, these new numerous visit holes are making some of you look bad. Stay out of null if you just want to smash carebears and stragglers.





Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
chris elliot
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#34 - 2013-05-26 14:57:26 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Null resident here, last couple of weeks there's been a rash of WHs so much that our alliance database isn't being updated enough.
So occasionally we get PVP gang come in from a WH.
i smacked one group so hard from inside a station that they all put millions on my bounty, reinforcing the notion that WH residents are super rich, love to win but hate to play if they can't win.
Another group scouted our carebears, swarmed in with tech3 gang and ecm and logi, immediately ran away from our HD fleet, then dropped archon reps to fight the few BCs we sent in after em.
Seriously, these new numerous visit holes are making some of you look bad. Stay out of null if you just want to smash carebears and stragglers.








Can I has access to database? I wants to smash faces too. Anything that will shorten the number of jumps I gotta do to find idiots in shiny ships is a win for me.
James Arget
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#35 - 2013-05-26 17:16:43 UTC
/me pulls out the popcorn

Interesting discussion chaps. I know just the other day we had two K162s to highsec, definately a rare occurrence. Wspace sure is mysterious.

CSM 8 Representative

http://csm8.org
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#36 - 2013-05-26 23:26:49 UTC
James Arget wrote:
/Wspace sure is mysterious.


Bob's ways are not our ways.

http://www.wormholes.info
Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2013-05-27 03:08:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Sith1s Spectre
chris elliot wrote:
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Null resident here, last couple of weeks there's been a rash of WHs so much that our alliance database isn't being updated enough.
So occasionally we get PVP gang come in from a WH.
i smacked one group so hard from inside a station that they all put millions on my bounty, reinforcing the notion that WH residents are super rich, love to win but hate to play if they can't win.
Another group scouted our carebears, swarmed in with tech3 gang and ecm and logi, immediately ran away from our HD fleet, then dropped archon reps to fight the few BCs we sent in after em.
Seriously, these new numerous visit holes are making some of you look bad. Stay out of null if you just want to smash carebears and stragglers.








Can I has access to database? I wants to smash faces too. Anything that will shorten the number of jumps I gotta do to find idiots in shiny ships is a win for me.



2nd that... I mean really 50+ jumps through null roaming to only kill a rifter. That sucked LOL.

Also, bolded the important part that gave me a chuckle. Please continue to tell us how tough you are inside your station mr Nullseccer :)

Resident forum troll and fashion consultant
Lexar Mundi
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-05-27 03:33:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexar Mundi
Kestrix wrote:
Lexar Mundi wrote:
If you think having another wormhole opening up into your area is a bad thing I am guessing you don't know how to farm wormholes. 90% of my income comes from the wormhole next door, and not the wormhole I live in..


I bet you have people on-line with you as well. 99% of the time I'm on-line I'm the sole member of my alliance in the worm hole. Given the fact that solo PvP in a worm hole is almost always suicide (for me anyway), any sign of hostile's in my worm hole and I POS up and log off. More connections to my worm hole means a greater chance someone else being in there with me. I make enough ISK from PI to cover my POS fuel bill so not running sites is not the end of the world but it does have a knock on effect with regards to the size of my wallet.

Even living in a C2 alone I still ran my C1 static sites. Yes you lose a ship now and then (Mostly your noctis when a random SB comes by, but I still made more then the cost of POS fuel and the 2 ships i lost in the 6 months I lived solo in my C2.

Wormholes were made to be a new risk when they came out. If you don't stick your neck out you never get fed. Granted I have lived in wormholes since my character was a month old. I was invited into a corp who lived in a C4 with a static C5. So risk and PvP was around me since the start.

~edit~
I ran my C1 statics almost every day (if they had sites) and on good days I would make over a billion isk a night.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#39 - 2013-05-27 03:57:00 UTC
Could this be real? Shocked

Would be interesting to see if the people who noticed more connections live in a specific class. I haven't seen significantly more connections to our c6.

And for that k162 that appeared during downtime: Someone could have scanned it before downtime, but only bookmarked the signature. Then after DT he immediately logged in and warped to it. So he could be sure to be the one who triggered it. I sometimes do this when scanning a new wh shortly before DT, that way you have a chance to surprise someone in the newly triggered system and at any rate they don't have a chance to be at the hole before you.

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Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#40 - 2013-05-27 05:40:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Himnos Altar
Terrorfrodo wrote:
Could this be real? Shocked

Would be interesting to see if the people who noticed more connections live in a specific class. I haven't seen significantly more connections to our c6.

And for that k162 that appeared during downtime: Someone could have scanned it before downtime, but only bookmarked the signature. Then after DT he immediately logged in and warped to it. So he could be sure to be the one who triggered it. I sometimes do this when scanning a new wh shortly before DT, that way you have a chance to surprise someone in the newly triggered system and at any rate they don't have a chance to be at the hole before you.



Or, alternatively, just before DT, he warped to the WH when there was about 5 seconds left on the clock, so he'd be on the newly spawned WH as soon as DT ended, and able to jump through and cloak up in the next system over before anyone could possibly get eyes on the new K162.


Er, rereading your post again I see we're saying the exact same thing, give or take.

my bad.
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