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Blasting through Null and kinda surprised...
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EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#161 - 2013-05-25 18:09:21 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
two months ago i flew an unfit domi with only trimarks from nrt4 to souther stain about 30 jumps and lived...

And you can fly the same unfit dominix around highsec and you will never have any chance at all of dying, ever.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#162 - 2013-05-25 18:19:12 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
two months ago i flew an unfit domi with only trimarks from nrt4 to souther stain about 30 jumps and lived...

And you can fly the same unfit dominix around highsec and you will never have any chance at all of dying, ever.


not if the cargo is full with goodies... cant say the same about 0.0

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
GreenSeed
#163 - 2013-05-25 18:22:21 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Gogela wrote:
FINALLY I have some time for eve after about a year... I'm shooting through null scammin' and what do I find? Nothing. A lot more nothing than I expected. No bubble camps. No patrols. Nothin'

Yah I'm in a cloaky nullified tengu, but I may as well have taken an iteron V. Every 20 jumps I find a frig or something... but even they are jumping at shadows, jumping through gates as soon as I'm in sys without even seeing what I'm in.

What happened?!


Why be in null when there are themepark rides (incursions, missions, other ways to make boo koo isk) available everywhere in high sec?. When CCP created the system upgrades scheme (so you could basically create isk farming systems in null sec), the place was way more active.

But you could upgrade every system the exact same as every other. So to "give alliances a reason to fight over the systems" they nerfed it to where only a very few systems became worth upgrading. End result was glorious non-stop wars of conquest and emergent gameplay everywhere everyone with a PVE alt screwed off to Empire (or made "button orbiting unarmed frig alts" for Faction Warfare LP farming) where making isk was safer and easier.

Brilliant job there ccp :) . Also consider hiring psycologists to go along with those economists...


qft
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#164 - 2013-05-25 18:28:21 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
not if the cargo is full with goodies... cant say the same about 0.0


okay go autopilot in 0.0 and in hisec in an empty ship

see where it dies first

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#165 - 2013-05-25 18:30:08 UTC
Andski wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
so its a players risk adverse nature that keeps 0.0 empty?

not sure if that can be fixed with game mechanics when its really a psychological thing


why yes let me go tackle this arazu that's motoring about off station for no reason this won't end poorly at all

there's risk aversion and there's recognizing recognizing obvious bait, because domis generally fall under "obvious bait"

avoiding getting baited is intelligent gameplay because generally they're not going to try to bait you if they can't curbstomp you


3 insta nadoes would insta pop the arazu...

or are you saying that because any ship can fit a cyno that i can just solo roam anywhere i want because people will asume i am just bait...

cool...

guess i dont need all those bookmarks over stargates and instas for outposts then anymore...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#166 - 2013-05-25 18:31:05 UTC
Andski wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
not if the cargo is full with goodies... cant say the same about 0.0


okay go autopilot in 0.0 and in hisec in an empty ship

see where it dies first


i am actually going to try this...

i shall report with hillarious km...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#167 - 2013-05-25 18:39:49 UTC
March rabbit wrote:

you can.
but i'm pretty sure they will not remove all ISK sources from high-sec. And thus "risk/reward imbalance" will always be present.


They dont need to remove them, just scale them back.
Vermandi Ozai
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#168 - 2013-05-25 18:40:55 UTC
floating in space wrote:
imo the biggest issue with living in 0.0 is having to interact with 0.0 people. I think the incessant meme spouting gets to me the most, but it's more than that. It's just like SA and Reddit had a baby and it has down syndrome, he's covered in a horrible rash and whenever you get near him you feel dirty and you start to itch. A hollow, weak feeling envelopes you, you assume you must have contracted HIV. You're itching, tearing up, your skin has become pasty and you are so confused you turn off EVE go to Control Panel. You try to hover your mouse over the uninstall button but your hand is shaking too much, you just break down on the floor and start weeping uncontrollably. That's what it's like to me.

Someone please fix that



You ,ight want to see a doctor about that...
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#169 - 2013-05-26 14:21:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
MeBiatch wrote:
3 insta nadoes would insta pop the arazu...


sure, if it's sitting still and is dumb enough to decloak with a bunch of tornadoes around

MeBiatch wrote:
or are you saying that because any ship can fit a cyno that i can just solo roam anywhere i want because people will asume i am just bait...


there's a difference between an arazu and "any ship that can fit a cyno"

it's called "20% bonus to Warp Scrambler and Warp Disruptor range per level"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#170 - 2013-05-26 14:25:51 UTC
A ton of ill thought through herp derp in this thread (and it's many iterations).

1. Firstly lets deal with isk making.
What level of isk/hour isk/risk and level of enjoyment that YOU get from that isk generating activiity do YOU like.
Fine go do that. For some people low sec pirating makes a profit and keeps them in ships. For some people isk making is something that they want to do fast until they have enough for what they need, for some they want to do it afk.
Whatever choose the method that suits you and stop complaining about how other people do it.

2. What are you making that isk for?
If it is just to make more isk then i struggle to understand your mindset at all.
If it is to have a bling mission ship i equally fail to understand u.
If your isk is to fund some sort of internet spaceship fighting then i can understand you fine.

3. Nullsec is empty?
Maybe i was lucky but i see fights in null every day and a 1000 ships in system fighting has happened on quite a few occaisions recently.

4. I joined a corp in null and it sucked therefore all null corps suck.
i can't even express how lacking the logic is here.
there is pretty much something for everyone in eve. Do some research work out what u want to do in eve and i promise you there is a corp/alliance of like minded people who you will have a blast with out there already.

If basic research is too hard might i politely suggest EVE is not the game for you.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
Bangkirai
Brewery Research Ltd
#171 - 2013-05-26 14:27:57 UTC
People dont roam, because they got titans, loads of blackops which nowadays have the same insane range of a titan, so why roam?

Thats like using a horse, when you can drive a car.

Almost 90 percent of any ship you come across has a cyno fitted, before you know it, they drop supers or blackops on you.

Thats the new "pvp"
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#172 - 2013-05-26 14:41:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Corey Fumimasa
Silvetica Dian wrote:
A ton of ill thought through herp derp in this thread (and it's many iterations).
1. 2. 3. 4. ...edited for space...
If basic research is too hard might i politely suggest EVE is not the game for you.


I have come to very much respect "The Manson Family" over the course of the past few days.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#173 - 2013-05-26 22:37:33 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Silvetica Dian wrote:
A ton of ill thought through herp derp in this thread (and it's many iterations).
1. 2. 3. 4. ...edited for space...
If basic research is too hard might i politely suggest EVE is not the game for you.


I have come to very much respect "The Manson Family" over the course of the past few days.



Thankyou for the vote of confidence :)
I still can't believe that guys like that allowed me into their corp tbh. It has transformed EVE for me (even if they make me feel and look like the worlds biggest moron every day lol). It is why i have started posting on these forums as having found such a nice fit for me and having whole new vistas open up in front of me i wanted to let people know that it is just looking , asking and trying that makes EVE turn from an Ok game to a great game.
My old main is rapidly reskilling from exploration to pvp as we speak.
Fly dangerous
Silvetica.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#174 - 2013-05-26 23:08:21 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
March rabbit wrote:

you can.
but i'm pretty sure they will not remove all ISK sources from high-sec. And thus "risk/reward imbalance" will always be present.


They dont need to remove them, just scale them back.


And how much is the magical number for people to stop thinking it will be fixed? Half? Quarter? Tenth? There is no calculation of how much more dangerous null is compared to high.

The real way it will probably be changed is when tiericide is all done, CCP will ask themself :

"How many hours of "grinding" should a high sec player need to do before he can set foot in a (ship class X)?

The rewards will then be based off of that.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#175 - 2013-05-27 00:28:26 UTC
Gogela wrote:
pussnheels wrote:
what time did you do this and what space
alot of nullsec activity takes place in a few hubs and dead end systems and most traffic use jumpbridges to travel from a to b
so yes it might looks empty for most part

Moved through Drone regions, then Wicked Creek, just bounced out of HED-GP... tabula rasa.
Danni stark wrote:
aww, op thinks he's worth undocking for. how cute is that?

Don't player hate... congratulate!


So you bounced through the most awful space to live in and didn't find anyone. Shocker.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#176 - 2013-05-27 04:37:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
SmilingVagrant wrote:
So you bounced through the most awful space to live in and didn't find anyone. Shocker.


Going through Delve pretty quiet in 9GNS-2 right now...

edit: running up through Period Basis but back through delve in a jiff

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Franky Sugaz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#177 - 2013-05-27 06:19:15 UTC
i don't get your point, sov null was always like that, only few sys have high activity, pipes, core systems and border zones the rest is just empty; you may have been spotted and reported on int chans long ego but your ship is probably preventing anyone to come and try an engagement that have 90% chance of ending up in just time wasted.
Take another ship -> open map -> find an high activity zone -> go there you probably end up in a bubbled pipe on a warzone with high activity and chance to be engaged are high.
Nyla Skin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#178 - 2013-05-27 07:05:09 UTC
Gogela wrote:
FINALLY I have some time for eve after about a year... I'm shooting through null scammin' and what do I find? Nothing. A lot more nothing than I expected. No bubble camps. No patrols. Nothin'

Yah I'm in a cloaky nullified tengu, but I may as well have taken an iteron V. Every 20 jumps I find a frig or something... but even they are jumping at shadows, jumping through gates as soon as I'm in sys without even seeing what I'm in.

What happened?!


Its been the same way for years now.

In after the lock :P   - CCP Falcon www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies
Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#179 - 2013-05-27 10:23:03 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Ylariana wrote:


A risk created by the zealous/jealous attacking of pretty much any ship that isnt on your friends list. What you numb-nuts dont seem to grasp is that YOU and YOUR playstyle are the cause of your "Increased Risk" problem.
Just because you CAN do a thing does not mean that you are right to do it.
Instead of foisting your problems onto other people (demanding they lose something to make your problem less of a concern), how about address your behaviour and use your much touted "Emergent gameplay" to reduce the risk in operating in the areas YOU have chosen to operate in....... Or is that too much like dealing with your own mess for you ?


People would be more than willing to accept that risk if they were earning more than in high sec.


Rubbish, earnings has nothing to do with my not moving to low/null..it's the **** poor attitude that stops me more than anything else..Ylariana is spot on.

Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..." " They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."

Welcome to EVE.
Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#180 - 2013-05-27 10:26:10 UTC
Andski wrote:
Ylariana wrote:
A risk created by the zealous/jealous attacking of pretty much any ship that isnt on your friends list. What you numb-nuts dont seem to grasp is that YOU and YOUR playstyle are the cause of your "Increased Risk" problem.
Just because you CAN do a thing does not mean that you are right to do it.
Instead of foisting your problems onto other people (demanding they lose something to make your problem less of a concern), how about address your behaviour and use your much touted "Emergent gameplay" to reduce the risk in operating in the areas YOU have chosen to operate in....... Or is that too much like dealing with your own mess for you ?


"my playstyle is wanting safety and cotton wool given to me in return for no price or effort but i deserve the same income availability as those who do put effort towards having that very availability because Playstyle"

christ that gets tired


About as tired as your replies have become....see above.

Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..." " They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."

Welcome to EVE.