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CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#221 - 2013-05-25 21:16:33 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP karkur
Alright... I've spent most of today trying to fix this mouse lag issue, and we are hoping to get the potential fix on Sisi tomorrow.
We are trying to get this to you as soon as possible so we can react to bugs or if it's not actually fixed, so it would be fantastic if you could check it out when it goes on Sisi :)
And then pleeeeease pay attention to whether the menu is doing what it should be doing, because I had to mess a lot with it.

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#222 - 2013-05-26 05:33:10 UTC
By "doing what it should be doing", do you mean buttons having the correct effect when you select them?
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#223 - 2013-05-26 11:03:42 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP karkur
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
By "doing what it should be doing", do you mean buttons having the correct effect when you select them?

yeah, and correct buttons selected based on your mouse movements and position of the pointer (even if it's off screen).... basically: did I break something Blink

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Jack Ogeko
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#224 - 2013-05-26 12:09:40 UTC
hi
i have now system scaner on one click, don't breake it, by making it on two clicks; for radial menu and scaner, do scaner at rigth click and on left click radial or something like that, i wish to have still scaner on 1 click.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#225 - 2013-05-26 12:29:59 UTC
I don't know if this is intentional but when using the drag to select range function, some of my modules get greyed out.
I'm guessing this isn't intentional because it's only some of my modules and it's weird, but I haven't seen anybody else report this.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
T1nyMan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#226 - 2013-05-26 13:56:22 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I don't know if this is intentional but when using the drag to select range function, some of my modules get greyed out.
I'm guessing this isn't intentional because it's only some of my modules and it's weird, but I haven't seen anybody else report this.


Is it possible they grey out as they fall out of range for the range to be set?

It is possible I'm way off track though as I have never been on sisi.. Or seen this functionality.. And I'm guessing.. Heh
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#227 - 2013-05-26 13:58:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
T1nyMan wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I don't know if this is intentional but when using the drag to select range function, some of my modules get greyed out.
I'm guessing this isn't intentional because it's only some of my modules and it's weird, but I haven't seen anybody else report this.


Is it possible they grey out as they fall out of range for the range to be set?

It is possible I'm way off track though as I have never been on sisi.. Or seen this functionality.. And I'm guessing.. Heh


...err...

... *cough*

...moving on!


What do you mean by "greyed out"? Greyed out like they're offline?


Also, for "I want to have scanner on one click" then just click, hold the button down while you drag the cursor over to the scanner icon, and then release. One click, and it doesn't even take very long.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#228 - 2013-05-26 14:10:00 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
By "doing what it should be doing", do you mean buttons having the correct effect when you select them?

yeah, and correct buttons selected based on your mouse movements and position of the pointer (even if it's off screen).... basically: did I break something Blink


I try not to double post, but this is a suitable reason to.

After having spent about half an hour with my thoroughly unscientific (and yet completely exhaustive) testing method of wildly flailing the mouse cursor around and then opening the radial menu to continue flailing the cursor around with it open, closing the menu to consider if I saw any difference in speed or whether it's just my brain compensating for something and then repeating the process again:

No perceptible mouse lag is observed. I must have done it dozens or even dozens and dozens of times at various random intervals on just about whatever I could think of. Furthermore, the cursor seems to behave correctly even if it's technically "offscreen".
T1nyMan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#229 - 2013-05-26 14:14:06 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
T1nyMan wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I don't know if this is intentional but when using the drag to select range function, some of my modules get greyed out.
I'm guessing this isn't intentional because it's only some of my modules and it's weird, but I haven't seen anybody else report this.


Is it possible they grey out as they fall out of range for the range to be set?

It is possible I'm way off track though as I have never been on sisi.. Or seen this functionality.. And I'm guessing.. Heh


...err...

... *cough*

...moving on!


What do you mean by "greyed out"? Greyed out like they're offline?


Also, for "I want to have scanner on one click" then just click, hold the button down while you drag the cursor over to the scanner icon, and then release. One click, and it doesn't even take very long.


In my imagination that seems to work very well.. Hope the cold gets better ;P
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#230 - 2013-05-26 14:26:59 UTC
T1nyMan wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
T1nyMan wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I don't know if this is intentional but when using the drag to select range function, some of my modules get greyed out.
I'm guessing this isn't intentional because it's only some of my modules and it's weird, but I haven't seen anybody else report this.


Is it possible they grey out as they fall out of range for the range to be set?

It is possible I'm way off track though as I have never been on sisi.. Or seen this functionality.. And I'm guessing.. Heh


...err...

... *cough*

...moving on!


What do you mean by "greyed out"? Greyed out like they're offline?


Also, for "I want to have scanner on one click" then just click, hold the button down while you drag the cursor over to the scanner icon, and then release. One click, and it doesn't even take very long.


In my imagination that seems to work very well.. Hope the cold gets better ;P
Yes, the modules that are not in optimal + falloff range for that range are faded out... however, we will probably be changing that so the ones in range are rather made brighter.

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Shuin Pa
Mentally Imbalanced
#231 - 2013-05-26 14:34:04 UTC
Thank you for adding the settings option for a different mouse button to activate this menu.

Now it works great and I can access it when I want to.

Pa
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#232 - 2013-05-26 14:34:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
CCP karkur wrote:
Yes, the modules that are not in optimal + falloff range for that range are faded out... however, we will probably be changing that so the ones in range are rather made brighter.


I had no idea about this functionality, so I tested it just now. Took a little bit of re-reading and experimentation to trigger it. Very interesting! However, I do suggest that the choice of greying them out similarly to offlined modules should indeed be changed. The safety system makes it tough to turn them red. Making in-range ones brighter might not be as effective as one would hope, unless it was something very bright like a white glow or some such.

Perhaps fading out-of-range modules to be transparent rather than grey could be effective?
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#233 - 2013-05-26 14:52:23 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
After having spent about half an hour with my thoroughly unscientific (and yet completely exhaustive) testing method of wildly flailing the mouse cursor around and then opening the radial menu to continue flailing the cursor around with it open, closing the menu to consider if I saw any difference in speed or whether it's just my brain compensating for something and then repeating the process again:

No perceptible mouse lag is observed. I must have done it dozens or even dozens and dozens of times at various random intervals on just about whatever I could think of. Furthermore, the cursor seems to behave correctly even if it's technically "offscreen".
That's great to hear, thanks for testing it out Smile

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Tritanium Avenger
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#234 - 2013-05-26 15:10:17 UTC
Didn't notice any delay and also that weird bug where the cursor wouldn't move out of a certain area of the screen looks solved.

Good job :)
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#235 - 2013-05-26 18:12:08 UTC
New feed back thread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3091534#post3091534

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Adam Geary
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#236 - 2013-05-27 18:56:57 UTC
its a bit annoying that the radial keeps coming up when re arranging ur top slots even had it do it to me when trying to activate my DC in the mass test.

However it is a nice addition, just tweak it to keep it from getting in the way of combat
scimichar
Deep Hole Explorers of New Eden
#237 - 2013-05-28 03:03:23 UTC
scimichar wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
But regarding the scanner one, it actually also works to click the scanner button... then the menu appears and you can click the icons, you do not have to hold the button down (but in that case you have to click the actually buttons in the menu I think).




I click on the scanner button, try clicking to the side, it "shows" the click on the screen but doesn't do anything. I have to move the cursor up to see the arrow, move down, click, then the cursor appears in the middle of the screen.



It works as expected now. Thank you. I know this isn't the right thread for this, but please bring back the list of anoms. Thanks,
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#238 - 2013-05-28 04:28:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Adam Geary wrote:
its a bit annoying that the radial keeps coming up when re arranging ur top slots even had it do it to me when trying to activate my DC in the mass test.

However it is a nice addition, just tweak it to keep it from getting in the way of combat


Go into your ESC menu and there will be settings for the delay.


scimichar wrote:


It works as expected now. Thank you. I know this isn't the right thread for this, but please bring back the list of anoms. Thanks,


Unless they changed something between earlier today and right now, the anoms are still shown in the probing list.
Chirality Tisteloin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#239 - 2013-05-29 21:04:09 UTC
When I drag out the orbiting distance from the radial menu, can I get a (colour?) indicator when I cross my current range?

Thanks, Chira.

See you at my blog: http://spindensity.wordpress.com/
CCP Sisyphus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#240 - 2013-05-30 10:20:26 UTC
Chirality Tisteloin wrote:
When I drag out the orbiting distance from the radial menu, can I get a (colour?) indicator when I cross my current range?

Thanks, Chira.


Can you explain this a little better? WHat do you mean "current range"? Context of what are you trying to do?

CCP Sisyphus | Team TriLambda | Team Klang | @CCP_Sisyphus