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Need to reactivate 2nd account without using this dumb Japanese NEXON system I got caught in

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Windsoldier
Spacehawks
#1 - 2013-05-25 11:28:49 UTC
It's been a while since I got lots of time to play now and I had no problem reactivating my first account and played for a month to check how things were and since I started to fall in to EVE again I went to reactivate my 2nd account, which got caught through this most dumbest payment system and time consuming to creating a new account under NEXON just to make one simple payment.

I spent two days trying to get it right and having their system through me around back and force through their confirm email system for ever move I make and to find out my credit card is not supported by their system.

I immidietelly closed the NEXON account and if I can't find another simple way to reactivate my 2nd account like in the past I will have to dump it for good. There is no way I am going to make any payments through this dumb system.

After all the registering steps to their system then all the steps just to try to buy points that could be used on all their other games, which I have no intrests at all and if their system did support my Visa Card and finally got the points charged I would have to go back to EVE account to go through all the steps just for them to be able to have the payment done with their pint system.

OK. No is there any otherway to reactivate my 2nd account without going through this dumb Japanese system?

Simple YES or NO will do and is YES, please provide me with a way and I would be very happy to spread the words out on how to make it so for all the other players that stopped playing because of this dumb Japnese system
B 2
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-05-25 11:36:21 UTC
It's possible to reactivate the account for 2 hours through account management.

You could then give a character a PLEX and use that for game time.
oprime
S0utherN Comfort
#3 - 2013-05-25 12:24:25 UTC
He's a Japanese player. I believe they can't use the same account management site us non-japanese use
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#4 - 2013-05-25 12:44:14 UTC
This looks like a question for CCP.

Any Devs awake yet, to help this guy out?

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Matthew97
#5 - 2013-05-25 13:22:51 UTC
Not sure if its allowed or not but if you put the eve site into a proxy based in the US for example, you should be able to use the us payment methods?
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#6 - 2013-05-25 13:40:09 UTC
I used to pay for my account using my european VISA card without issues, however the EVE account was created back home. Lately I've started noticing that many Japanese services stopped accepting my international card, might be related to your issue.

Though have been running this on PLEX from before the move to NEXON, so things can have changed.

Nyan
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
#7 - 2013-05-25 15:09:16 UTC
Step 1. Buy a PLEX via 3rd party seller
Step 2. Use hours for plex in account manage
Step 3. Activate PLEX
Step 4. Tell CCP to go eat a horse

It's obvious CCP is getting kickbacks from Nexon
GreenSeed
#8 - 2013-05-25 18:25:16 UTC
bump to help our Japanese brother get back into eve.
Amela Blade
Menace 2 Sobriety
#9 - 2013-05-25 18:41:54 UTC
When I lived in Japan I contacted CCP via petition and told them that I wasn't actually Japanese and wanted to use the normal payment system. They went ahead and changed my account so I didn't have to buy those nexus points or whatever. So just file a petition asking them to change your account. However if you are actually from japan you may be out of luck. Then again you could always just lie about it
Texty
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-05-25 18:57:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Texty
OP: JFYI Nexon is basically not a Japanese company. And it's just that for some reason CCP happened to think that it would be better for the residents in Japan to pay via Nexon's awful billing system.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#11 - 2013-05-25 19:02:05 UTC
Texty wrote:
JFYI Nexon is basically not a Japanese company. And it's just that for some reason CCP happened to think that it would be better for the residents in Japan to pay via Nexon's awful billing system.



NEXON is in fact Korean, and a blight upon online gaming.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#12 - 2013-05-25 19:47:37 UTC
NEXON sucks. Never addresses hacking in their games. Their billing system is horrible. Stopped playing any NEXON game when I realized how horrible they are. Felt bad for Japanese players when I seen that about NEXON. Good luck, hope you get your issues resolved.
Windsoldier
Spacehawks
#13 - 2013-05-25 23:14:21 UTC
Good morning!

I was surprised and very happy to see so many replies. Thanks a bunch!

Matthew97 wrote:
Not sure if its allowed or not but if you put the eve site into a proxy based in the US for example, you should be able to use the us payment methods?


Never thought of this, but will give it a try. I am not sure if this would work by now as it seems my account was marked for use within Japan for forced that way. The weird thing is my main account was created the same way and I am still able to use the normal payment systems, which is one reason I was shocked when I found out my second account was forced under the NEXON system. Still I will try this and see what I get.

Messoroz wrote:
Step 1. Buy a PLEX via 3rd party seller
Step 2. Use hours for plex in account manage
Step 3. Activate PLEX
Step 4. Tell CCP to go eat a horse

It's obvious CCP is getting kickbacks from Nexon


This is something I was wondering, but I thought of buying the PLEX on my main account and passing it to my 2nd account until I realized I couldn't login to the game to have my 2nd account to redeem and set it in position for the account to use it on site side. With this NEXON issue it seems the only way is to activate the account by buying their messed up system points, which is not working for me.

I am not sure if or how I can be able to login for few hours, but if that was a one chance thing for each account I might have used it 2 month ago on both accounts to see what I had and which to activate first. If I could get another chance then I think my issue would be solved.

Amela Blade wrote:
When I lived in Japan I contacted CCP via petition and told them that I wasn't actually Japanese and wanted to use the normal payment system. They went ahead and changed my account so I didn't have to buy those nexus points or whatever. So just file a petition asking them to change your account. However if you are actually from japan you may be out of luck. Then again you could always just lie about it


This sounds promising and I will definitely try this by contacting CCP and see how they can help me. I just need a few hours to be able to login and buy extra PLEX so I can keep the account active and not have to go through this dumb NEXON system.

Again thank you all for your quick replies!
Windsoldier
Spacehawks
#14 - 2013-05-26 04:29:49 UTC
B 2 wrote:
It's possible to reactivate the account for 2 hours through account management.

You could then give a character a PLEX and use that for game time.


I checked with this chance and I think I may have used it up when I was activating my main account by using activating both accounts at one point to check the status on all my chars. So, when I login now I do not see such function or when I check my emails they are out of date and the links were not working.

I did open a petition hoping CCP could help me revive the 2nd account. Will report back once I get an answer from them.

What really makes me worried is when I started playing EVE Online I was living in Hawaii and moved to Japan for business reasons. So, both of my accounts were originally created under the world system? but during my absence they allowed some messed up Korean company ripping off Japanese markets to force take over the rights for were I pay and they use a system that is so complicated and ask for more personal information before they tell you your Credit Card doesn't work with their system. My Card I was using was created here in Japan, which I have no problem using here in Japan and the world.

Now. For some reason if they are able to do this it makes me so worried for my main account, which I spent a couple of years building up my skills and getting the ships I want. If they force me to go through their system on my main account I would have to stop playing for good and that would hurt me so bad, but still will do that if it comes to that.

I know this wouldn't effect CCP at all, but thinking of all the players they lost and will lose because of this should make them build a system were the user can choose how to pay through which system.

Not sure If I am getting my message through, but hope this is corrected very soon.
Bloody Wench
#15 - 2013-05-26 08:23:08 UTC
I don't know who the 3rd party GTC sellers are, but I'm sure there's no shortage of them around.

Unless you used 'Hours for PLEX' and did NOT infact use a PLEX to reactivate the account then you should be able to use it without issue.

You can use hours for PLEX as many times as you like so long as you actually do stick game time on the account.

I would certainly look into creating a new account that does not come under the NEXON bullcrap, and transferring the characters from the problem account to it.

You should certainly petition CCP and see what they can do for you first though.

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Windsoldier
Spacehawks
#16 - 2013-05-26 12:46:27 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
I don't know who the 3rd party GTC sellers are, but I'm sure there's no shortage of them around.

Unless you used 'Hours for PLEX' and did NOT infact use a PLEX to reactivate the account then you should be able to use it without issue.

You can use hours for PLEX as many times as you like so long as you actually do stick game time on the account.

I would certainly look into creating a new account that does not come under the NEXON bullcrap, and transferring the characters from the problem account to it.

You should certainly petition CCP and see what they can do for you first though.


Thanks for the advice and went hunting for this 'Hours for PLEX' again and nothing related to it as all options lead me to this NEXON system NXP purchasing. I also do recall I used exactly that to activate my main account, but for some reason my 2nd account was caught under this NEXON system and really annoying.

I know I could get PLEX through my main account, but even I try to get it in my 2nd accounts hands the 2nd account wouldn't be able to put it in place for it to be used for game time.

I was looking for a proxy way to see it it would change my account payment system by faking a login through the U.S. or so, but never done such thing in the past and need to see how it is done.
Demolishar
United Aggression
#17 - 2013-05-26 12:49:33 UTC
If you have sufficient isk you could try buying GTC from TImecode Bazaar, if that option is available to you.
Windsoldier
Spacehawks
#18 - 2013-05-26 14:26:58 UTC
Demolishar wrote:
If you have sufficient isk you could try buying GTC from TImecode Bazaar, if that option is available to you.


It seems I might be able to purchase GTC from the ETC Resellers if that is what you are points at. If I do would they be email me a code or ship a card to me here in Japan? Not sure how that works.

Also if I did and got the code some how, do I use that in the "Activate Code" section were it says "Please enter your activation code or CD key"? If not I do not see any other locations to be able to enter any code.

Anyone with experience on how the ETC Resellers work and could explain here would be very helpful.

Thanks for the suggestion and hope this could lead to a more faster way to activating the account. Still at the end I will have to have CCP move my account back to the world payment system for future uses and to avoid these kind of cases.

Still waiting on an answer from them, which I did submit a petition already.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#19 - 2013-05-26 22:23:58 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Windsoldier wrote:
Demolishar wrote:
If you have sufficient isk you could try buying GTC from TImecode Bazaar, if that option is available to you.


It seems I might be able to purchase GTC from the ETC Resellers if that is what you are points at. If I do would they be email me a code or ship a card to me here in Japan? Not sure how that works.

Also if I did and got the code some how, do I use that in the "Activate Code" section were it says "Please enter your activation code or CD key"? If not I do not see any other locations to be able to enter any code.

Anyone with experience on how the ETC Resellers work and could explain here would be very helpful.

Thanks for the suggestion and hope this could lead to a more faster way to activating the account. Still at the end I will have to have CCP move my account back to the world payment system for future uses and to avoid these kind of cases.

Still waiting on an answer from them, which I did submit a petition already.
According to the EvE Time Code Transfer Procedure you should be able to re-activate your second account by buying a GTC in the Timecode Bazaar.
Look especialy at the part starting with 'How To - Reactivate a suspended 2nd account which doesn't have enough ISK:'
It describes step-by-step the actions that have to be taken to use a GTC to re-activate an account.

I hope this helps to solve your problem. Good luck!

ISD Ezwal Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Windsoldier
Spacehawks
#20 - 2013-05-27 01:26:12 UTC
ISD Ezwal wrote:
According to the EvE Time Code Transfer Procedure you should be able to re-activate your second account by buying a GTC in the Timecode Bazaar.
Look especialy at the part starting with 'How To - Reactivate a suspended 2nd account which doesn't have enough ISK:'
It describes step-by-step the actions that have to be taken to use a GTC to re-activate an account.

I hope this helps to solve your problem. Good luck!


Yes!
I finally got it activated!

Thanks a bunch! I went through the link you provided and took step by step and realized the Time Code I received through my Email, I just had to copy and past it directly in the Activation Code area under my account. Got it activated and from this point on I should be able to buy PLEX and extend my Game Time without going through NEXON!

Again, Thank you very much and thanks to everyone here who helped me get through this! Now my only fear is getting Ganked within game, but that is much more fun then not being able to activate my accounts.

I will report this to CCP through my petition I opened and still see if they could unhook my account from the NEXON system, so I could by PLEX directly with my 2nd account when needed.

Hope this topic will help others out there suffering from the NEXON system.