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Go ahead and tell us more about it. I'd like to have some laughs reading those excuses.

Thing is that despite the simplicity of your assumption if you ever go around on sisi and despite everything being at 100isk you don't see more carebears playing over there than pvp fan boys.

So sorry to tell you this but your argument is null.

You don't seem to grasp that some people are averse to PvP simply on account of because.




******* awesome. Can't wait for it to happen.



I... what? What does that have to do with anything?

So let them be, their money is as good as yours for CCP and on top of having as much right as you have of playing the game their way and not how you want them to.

Now instead of criticizing all the time risk averse players and automatically assume those are in high sec, what about find causes to effects and bring constructive solutions for the greater good of the game and all the community instead from your single point of view how the game should be played?




More than you want to admit or think about it but still, lets keep this "231564814681681² constructive discussion about high sec carebears and how afraid they are about pvp.

The problem is that's it not 'our' excuses for why they are afraid to PVP.

It's their excuses.

Every week we have one of these threads where some person starts BAWWWing about how clone costs or (especially) implants are the cause of them avoiding PVP, and if only the implants were gone, they would be able to do it.

Never do they mention or acknowledge the fact that if they have a set of implants to lose, they were the ones to install them.

They made that choice. The implants were not there to begin with. And now, after having chosen to install them, they blame the implants, instead of the choice that they made to install them.

They did it to themselves, and listening to them cry about it grows tiresome; people who cry about things like this will always find something to cry about. We don't need to invent excuses for them in order to please you; wait long enough, and they will produce the excuses on their own.

No, I'm pretty sure it's just an idiot employing the "baffle them with bull ****" strategy.

- ship/modules are too expensive
- ship/modules are too far away
- there is no needed ship/module/ammo on the station i'm in
- i only have 2-3 hours a day to play so i CANNOT wait 12 hours for clone

need more?

Jumpclone or if you really want to use implants just switch from +4/5 to +2/3 and only for attributes you're currently using

Why don't we just remove PvP from this game and make it like space minecraft.









You load of wusses.

Having good pvp is like eating a delicious omelette; how can you eat a delicious omelette without scrambling some eggs?

I think if the cost of implants was somehow mitigated, people for the most part wouldn't pvp more, as the risk-averse wouldn't become any less risk-averse. However, the equation would shift a few percentage points in favor of more pvp happening, mostly due to the convenience factor. I want to think that more bears would venture out of their shells and try some of this pvp stuff they hear everyone talking about, but after so many years of experience in dealing with their type, I really don't think it would turn out to be that way.

These people wouldn't pvp even if it was free, or actually gave them a net benefit even if they lost. They play on pve servers in other MMOs, and stay away from competitive experiences like fps games and such. They're in EVE purely incidentally, and don't usually stay for long. I've known these types, even personally, and I know how they think. Yes, it's that bad.

Though surprisingly, a lot of them aren't that averse to getting into fights in real life...


Another five clones would be pretty nice, actually. We've had a lot of new implants added in the past few years, and it would be nice to have more choices.


Minecraft can have some pretty ******* intense pvp.