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Salvaging

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Zippy Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-05-23 19:03:16 UTC
As a newbie i will be doing lv 1 missions for a while, i dont mind flying to things to loot them however is it worth my time to salvage the lvl 1 missions or is it only worth it for 2 and up (mainly serpentis)

Thanks,

Zip
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-05-23 19:35:41 UTC
You will get 2 different answers, depending on who you ask:


1.) Yes. As a new player you can use all the ISK you can get. So salvaging your missions can give you a bit of extra income to help you get started.





2.) No. The stuff you get from level 1 and 2 missions is generally not worth your time to spent the extra time salvaging. From level 3 and specially level 4 salvaging becomes more viable.



Which one applies to you...that's also a bit personal preference. When I did missions, I never ever stopped to salvage my stuff.

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Untanas Volmyr
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-05-23 19:44:38 UTC
I went right into salvaging after completing tutorials and it paid off well. Most of those parts are needed somewhere. As for flying to debris to loot. Tractor beems are another toy I need to play with. Once you learn about salvage drones it won't take long to increase payouts just by accumulating parts. Which can lead you deeper into industry if you choose to go there.

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Drake al'Fury
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-05-23 20:05:16 UTC
Only just started to do some salvaging and my first target is generally to gather enough salvage to equal the cost of the ship and fittings and ammo. Of course the fun bit is reducing ships to wrecks in the first place.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-05-23 20:08:03 UTC
*raises hand* I'm in the "no" camp on that one.

However, there are salvager corps you can join and make fairly good isk as a new player. They contract with mission-runners to salvage their level 4 missions for them and then split the isk from selling the salvage with the mission-runner who might not want to salvage themselves anyway. Win-win scenario. A newer player can even do that solo if they wanted, but finding the work might be more difficult... A Destroyer with tractor beams and salvage modules in the high slots, a microwarpdrive or afterburner for getting around inside the salvage area, and expanded cargohold module(s) in the low slots works well until one can get a Noctis salvager ship (eventually...if you want / need). Capacitor on the Destroyer doesn't need to be stable - doesn't really matter if you run out of power salvaging...
Zippy Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-05-23 21:06:18 UTC
Thanks for all your help, due to the nature of how little is in lv 1 missions, would i need any cargo expanders at all, as i need the lows for cap stability otherwise i last only like 30-40seconds atm which would be a waste of time.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-05-23 21:55:09 UTC
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
*raises hand* I'm in the "no" camp on that one.

However, there are salvager corps you can join and make fairly good isk as a new player. They contract with mission-runners to salvage their level 4 missions for them and then split the isk from selling the salvage with the mission-runner who might not want to salvage themselves anyway. Win-win scenario. A newer player can even do that solo if they wanted, but finding the work might be more difficult... A Destroyer with tractor beams and salvage modules in the high slots, a microwarpdrive or afterburner for getting around inside the salvage area, and expanded cargohold module(s) in the low slots works well until one can get a Noctis salvager ship (eventually...if you want / need). Capacitor on the Destroyer doesn't need to be stable - doesn't really matter if you run out of power salvaging...


They are called Pro Synergy.

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Snaggletooth Slackjaw
Banana Moon Industries
#8 - 2013-05-24 08:51:14 UTC
Zippy Aideron wrote:
Thanks for all your help, due to the nature of how little is in lv 1 missions, would i need any cargo expanders at all, as i need the lows for cap stability otherwise i last only like 30-40seconds atm which would be a waste of time.


No, the salvage you get from level 1 and 2 missions is tiny in volume = think of a piece of salvage as like a unit of tritanium.....your cargo hold may fill up if you acquire 50,000 pieces before you unload, but it will take you quite some time to get 50.000 bits of salvage.

Low level salvaging is like playing the lottery....most of it is worth almost nothing, but the odd ship will giveyou 4 x Tripped Power circuits at 125,000 per unit. Just cruising asteroid belts for wrecks in a 0.6 or 0.5 can earn money at a quicker rate than mining in a venture, with just a little bit of luck.

Running salvage for mission runners is profitable, but some players can get a bit snippy if you roll up in your ratting destroyer with a single salvager and maybe a tractor beam - which I can't really undertand. I mean they can go off and do other things while you chug away salvaging and looting the wrecks. The site won't despawn while you are in it, and you just contract them the cash and any loot (like tags) you find after agreeing the split/reimbursement. So they aren't losing out if they have to wait half an hour to get money from salvage that they weren't going to bother with themselves anyway.

You don't need a Noctis to salvage missions for other people, although it is more efficient. You will want to get salvage trained up to at least 4 however, so you can salvage all the wrecks they produce.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#9 - 2013-05-24 09:08:40 UTC
There is no reason to be doing L1 missions for long: train Connections to 3 and you will have access to level 2 agents after a few L1 missions. Then it also pays to get in touch with mission runners in your corp They get the mission, you run it together, and when they hand it in you get part of the reward including standing gain.
Zippy Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-05-24 11:26:32 UTC
Thanks again for all the help, i think i will salvage my lv 1 missions, to clarify this about doing my own missions not someone elses, thanks for the info about social 3, when i am able to do them on my own i will train that skill or hold off untill im close to lv 3 after doing lv 2's for ages. Thanks mara for the guide in your signature too. Smile
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-05-24 12:12:10 UTC
Train social and connections early if you plan to do missions. The skills increase your standings gain percentage so you get the most benefit early on. You don't have to do lvl 2 & 3 missions if you don't want to but the larger standings gains will be handy for more than just missions.

Also, no one mentioned ninja looting. Do people do that still?
Probe out battleships running l4's and loot/salvage right out from under them. Just don't get caught. At low skill levels they may just alpha your little ninja a$s
Zippy Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-05-24 12:19:23 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
Train social and connections early if you plan to do missions. The skills increase your standings gain percentage so you get the most benefit early on. You don't have to do lvl 2 & 3 missions if you don't want to but the larger standings gains will be handy for more than just missions.

Also, no one mentioned ninja looting. Do people do that still?
Probe out battleships running l4's and loot/salvage right out from under them. Just don't get caught. At low skill levels they may just alpha your little ninja a$s

I am aware of ninja looting also ninja salvaging (the only ninja thing i would do) however i am not interested in stealing of other people... at this moment anyway.
Cipher7
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-05-24 14:15:00 UTC
Salvaging is optional.

Whether you do it or blitz missions the income is about the same.
Zippy Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-05-24 20:27:07 UTC
When it comes to lv 4's if you only have one acount, whats better for isk/hour blitzing or killing everything then salvaging in a noctis (all one account, solo)
DeAira Skord
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-05-24 22:47:44 UTC
I'm only doing l3s, but I enjoy cleaning up salvage with my Thrasher. Getting 4 tractor beams and 4salvagers going at the same time.

Lost my poor noob Noctis to an unfortunate new Overview settings overhaul I made ... "Who is shooting me! There are no Reds in my Overview!"

I hate learning things the hard way ...

Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-05-25 00:44:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Vortexo VonBrenner
Zippy Aideron wrote:
When it comes to lv 4's if you only have one acount, whats better for isk/hour blitzing or killing everything then salvaging in a noctis (all one account, solo)


I vote for making all the red crosses into wrecks, then contracting the room to Pro Synergy to loot and salvage the wrecks while you do other things. Of course, it's a game and if you enjoy salvaging your own wrecks, go for it. Enjoyment of game > isk per hour Smile
Zippy Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-05-25 13:22:36 UTC
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
Zippy Aideron wrote:
When it comes to lv 4's if you only have one acount, whats better for isk/hour blitzing or killing everything then salvaging in a noctis (all one account, solo)


I vote for making all the red crosses into wrecks, then contracting the room to Pro Synergy to loot and salvage the wrecks while you do other things. Of course, it's a game and if you enjoy salvaging your own wrecks, go for it. Enjoyment of game > isk per hour Smile

so they pay for the room, how does it work. cos i might do that cos i find it really booring lol
Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
#18 - 2013-05-25 16:04:28 UTC
Zippy Aideron wrote:
As a newbie i will be doing lv 1 missions for a while, i dont mind flying to things to loot them however is it worth my time to salvage the lvl 1 missions or is it only worth it for 2 and up (mainly serpentis)

Thanks,

Zip


Depends on who you are, some people like to do 3 or 4 fast missions, skipping everything unnecessary, some like to do one mission, kill everything, loot everything, salvage everything.

It is about you and in reading the above you probably know which you are.
Zippy Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-05-25 16:10:00 UTC
Xavier Liche wrote:
Zippy Aideron wrote:
As a newbie i will be doing lv 1 missions for a while, i dont mind flying to things to loot them however is it worth my time to salvage the lvl 1 missions or is it only worth it for 2 and up (mainly serpentis)

Thanks,

Zip


Depends on who you are, some people like to do 3 or 4 fast missions, skipping everything unnecessary, some like to do one mission, kill everything, loot everything, salvage everything.

It is about you and in reading the above you probably know which you are.

Yeh I think blitzing is for me, is it possible to blitz in a proteus/ navy brutix when it comes out? And please dont say tengu.
Zenith Huunuras
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-05-26 13:56:49 UTC
Zippy Aideron wrote:
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
Zippy Aideron wrote:
When it comes to lv 4's if you only have one acount, whats better for isk/hour blitzing or killing everything then salvaging in a noctis (all one account, solo)


I vote for making all the red crosses into wrecks, then contracting the room to Pro Synergy to loot and salvage the wrecks while you do other things. Of course, it's a game and if you enjoy salvaging your own wrecks, go for it. Enjoyment of game > isk per hour Smile

so they pay for the room, how does it work. cos i might do that cos i find it really booring lol


You run your missions as usual, bookmark each pocket, abandon all the wrecks, turn in the mission then contract the bookmarks to Pro Synergy. The loot is split 45% to the mission runner, 45% to the salvager and 10% to the corporation. While you may make more per mission if you salvage yourself, doing business with us will allow you to rush through missions thus increasing your isk/hour. We keep track of loot and customers using publicly available spreadsheets and payments are made on a weekly basis. Check out our website for more info http://prosynergyeve.com/ or join the channel Pro Synergy and just ask around.

From a salvager's point of view, as far as i know we're always recruiting. When i joined PS about a week ago my char was only two days old, and i only started to play eve two weeks earlier on a trial account. And while a noctis is recommended, there's plenty of guys who salvage in a destroyer in the beginning. After your first paycheck you'll be able to afford a noctis anyway. While obviously not the most lucrative thing one can do in eve, it's definitely the most lucrative thing a new player such as myself can do, with limited sp and knowledge of the game.

If you're a trial or you plan to salvage as a freelancer, there's also a channel called Free Wrecks, where mission runners give away their wrecks, often for free.
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