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No podding, more PvP

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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#1 - 2013-05-25 13:07:11 UTC
If implants were made to expire instead of being destroyed to fuel the economy, and if podding did not occur, would people PvP more? Especially considering one of the easiest ways to get implants is through FW?

Sometimes the cost of the ship is secondary to the cost of implants. If the risk of losing implants in combat went away my guess is more people would participate.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-05-25 13:10:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Eram Fidard
No, the risk-averse would simply find another reason to stay docked.

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flakeys
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-05-25 13:11:14 UTC
Or let's just remove all implants from the game? Cool

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#4 - 2013-05-25 13:11:15 UTC
Nope, they'd just find another excuse not to undock.

Oh god.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#5 - 2013-05-25 13:15:15 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Or let's just remove all implants from the game? Cool

Or add temporary boosters for the hardwire slots that do the same or similar, so a pod loss quite as expensive but you need to stay supplied (from low-sec/pirate sources, no less).

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flakeys
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-05-25 13:20:16 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Abrazzar wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Or let's just remove all implants from the game? Cool

Or add temporary boosters for the hardwire slots that do the same or similar, so a pod loss quite as expensive but you need to stay supplied (from low-sec/pirate sources, no less).



No just remove it completely .That way it won't bother anyone who wants to pvp right?


Keeping one clone with a cheap impsset or none at all is such a small sacrifice.If even that is too much of an effort then completely remove that precious bonus of yours so you don't have to ''decide'' if you should risk it.

Btw with ''yours'' i do not mean you abrazzar but anyone who uses implants as an excuse why they can't pvp.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-05-25 13:22:30 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Or let's just remove all implants from the game? Cool





Let's remove learning implants from the game.







@ op

I think it would mean more people would PvP or at least be willing to experiment with it, but there are people that won't PvP no matter what change you do.

Note: PvP that I refer to is combat PvP, not those that like to play Monopoly.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#8 - 2013-05-25 13:23:12 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
If implants were made to expire instead of being destroyed to fuel the economy, and if podding did not occur, would people PvP more? Especially considering one of the easiest ways to get implants is through FW?

Sometimes the cost of the ship is secondary to the cost of implants. If the risk of losing implants in combat went away my guess is more people would participate.

Risk is part of the fun in this game. You should not play EVE if you don't like risk.

If you cannot afford to lose those implants, do not use them.

Remove standings and insurance.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#9 - 2013-05-25 13:25:13 UTC
If you remove implants from the game, it would make killing pods pointless.

Oh god.
flakeys
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-05-25 13:27:15 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
If you remove implants from the game, it would make killing pods pointless.



So then we stop killing pods ...





I can keep this up all day .

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#11 - 2013-05-25 13:27:37 UTC
Six Six Six wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Or let's just remove all implants from the game? Cool



Let's remove learning implants from the game.



I'm fine with that. They do not add anything useful to the game really.

Remove standings and insurance.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-05-25 13:29:13 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
If you remove implants from the game, it would make killing pods pointless.



Not at all, there's still combat implants and clone costs (even if they are reduced in cost). Also means they could end up outside of the combat area.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#13 - 2013-05-25 13:34:47 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
If implants were made to expire instead of being destroyed to fuel the economy, and if podding did not occur, would people PvP more? Especially considering one of the easiest ways to get implants is through FW?

Sometimes the cost of the ship is secondary to the cost of implants. If the risk of losing implants in combat went away my guess is more people would participate.



If you're scared of getting podded, I feel bad for you.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#14 - 2013-05-25 13:35:07 UTC
flakeys wrote:
So then we stop killing pods ...

Zzz....

Six Six Six wrote:
clone costs (even if they are reduced in cost). Also means they could end up outside of the combat area.

Zzz....


Oh god.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-05-25 13:39:57 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
flakeys wrote:
So then we stop killing pods ...

Zzz....

Six Six Six wrote:
clone costs (even if they are reduced in cost). Also means they could end up outside of the combat area.

Zzz....






Riot Girl's replies


Zzzz........
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#16 - 2013-05-25 14:11:30 UTC
They should make implants player made
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-05-25 14:14:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Six Six Six
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
They should make implants player made



Don't mind that as long as they're not learning implants.





They should get rid of the LP stores too and make those items player made, difference with those would be you need a high corp standing with the corp to be able to make their products.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#18 - 2013-05-25 14:21:21 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
They should make implants player made

You should get BPCs from 'reverse engineering' player corpses. What you can get out of it would depend on the attached killmail.

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#19 - 2013-05-25 14:27:26 UTC
Outside of null and the occasional SBing camps in Low, it's quite difficult to lose a pod. So if people are too worried about losing a pod they will find some other excuse not to pvp.

But like Abrazzar posted, adding in learning boosters would be best to mitigate cost due to it being a consumable. So lower short term cost, higher long term cost(for people who don't Pvp).

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#20 - 2013-05-25 14:45:11 UTC
I prefer ideas which encourage PvP to ideas which cater for the excuses of those who don't wish to PvP.

Oh god.
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