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A newbies first impressions!

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Helios Aquiness
Perkone
Caldari State
#61 - 2013-05-23 19:14:08 UTC
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:
Mission Domino wrote:
Everyone will say that you can't trust anyone.
You can, however, trust me.

My spider sense is tingling, are you telling the truth?Blink


"A Dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest...its the honest ones you have to watch out for." - Jack Sparrow
Carebear? Im a brony, motherf***er.
Draqone an'Alreigh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2013-05-23 19:37:15 UTC
I am also a new players and quite enjoying the game. Only joined 2 months ago. I actually am thinking of writing a guide (while all that is still fresh for me) on stuff that new players might need to know and that are not explained clear enough anywhere - i just don't have the time right now.

Right now I am using my spare time to give feedback on new features aimed at new players.

Inducing the proliferation of common sense throughout EVE Official forums since April 27th, 2013.

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#63 - 2013-05-23 19:46:10 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:
Akali Kuvakei wrote:
Enjoy, and I hope you become bitter soon.

I hope to god that I won't get bitter, as bitterness usually is the result of something bad happening.. Lol


"Bad" things will happen to you during your EVE play.

But the more expensive the lesson, the better it is learned.


Yah.
You *will* get ganked. Repeatedly.
Don't whinge about it on the fora - that only attracts trolls. Unless you*like* troll-baiting. In which case, have t it! Twisted

When you do get ganked, try to figure out why/how it happened, and which mistakes you made. Sometimes, there's literally nothing you could've done better, but most often, you've left yourself open in some manner. Learn how to use those lessons against others. Twisted

Don't post complaints about moderation here in the fora. CCP's responses to petitions can be... Slow. But no one here can help you with that, it won't speed up the process, and you will, again, attract trolls.

Carry on smartly!

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc

Ekhss Nihilo
2 Men and a Goat
Asteroid Protection Agency
#64 - 2013-05-23 20:21:05 UTC
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:
pussnheels wrote:
welcome to the only MMO where other players care for you , even when they blow up your ship first

my advice , learn what the game has to offer and choose your career path you want to follow and do not let others tell you , you need to play the game their way

have fun

Thanks for the advice! I will eventually choose one path, but right now I'm all about trying different stuff. It's a little like elementary school, where you try all kinds of stuff before you go on to specializing in one thing.. (at least that's how I like to think about it) I also realized that I posted this with my first character, which I halfway abandoned so I could make a new one another place to play with my friends, but it does not really matter that much.

I'm a new EVE citizen - less than three weeks into it. In a purely practical sense, I recommend doing ALL of the tutorial missions. One the key things you'll get from them is a fair grasp of game mechanics and 'how do I do X'. The life of your ship will often hang on how well you are able to manage your weapons load-outs, their associated ammunition and the general fit of your ship.

Maneuver is vital. It's easy to warp into a location, get fascinated by what's going on and realize too late that you're not moving and have thus become a sitting duck. There's a fine art to kiting - keeping your ship at a certain distance that favors your weapons load-out and capabilities versus over your opponents. And then there's the lesson of learning NOT to orbit one opponent only to orbit into range of another.

I get the impression that mastering these essentials will allow you to punch well above your weight, a premise I have yet to really test.

Good luck with your endeavors in this remarkable universe. It's your story to tell.

"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180)

Barbelo Valentinian
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#65 - 2013-05-23 21:55:57 UTC
Good stuff.

And for God's sake - KEEP YOUR CLONE UP TO DATE!!!
Northern Misfit
Far Mt Logistics
#66 - 2013-05-23 22:22:44 UTC
There are a great deal of players who will give you advice, even after they've blown you up, especially if you ask. I've lost count of the number of conversations I've watched in local between players about what went wrong, or how a simple mod change could have changed an outcome.

Don't feed the trolls - although for those of us who lurk here while we're supposed to be working, sometimes watching is great fun. Especially when the internet lawyers fight it out with the real lawyers, that is great sport!

High Priestess of the Sovereign Realm of Explosions and Light

CCP Sisyphus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#67 - 2013-05-23 23:39:56 UTC
I was always fond of the saying: Доверяй, но проверяй

Trust, but verify

CCP Sisyphus | Team TriLambda | Team Klang | @CCP_Sisyphus

Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
#68 - 2013-05-23 23:49:33 UTC
Glad you are having fun, OP.

Mirima Thurander
#69 - 2013-05-24 00:06:06 UTC
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:
....Snip...





Start PVPing as soon as you can reliably afford to lose frig's over and over.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.

Ha Hakoke
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#70 - 2013-05-24 04:27:31 UTC
Older players will try to duel then gank you...not always in that order.
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#71 - 2013-05-24 07:45:54 UTC
Again, thank you everyone! So many good pieces of advice in this thread!Big smile

Quote:
There are a great deal of players who will give you advice, even after they've blown you up

This is actually a pretty common thing in other games with a good community too. Gotta love it! Big smile

Quote:
Start PVPing as soon as you can reliably afford to lose frig's over and over.

That might be a good way for some players, but I still prefer to have a better knowledge about the game before I start PvPing on my own initiative. Especially when I can't analyze what I'm doing wrong with my current understanding of the game.

Quote:
I was always fond of the saying: Доверяй, но проверяй

Trust, but verify
You didn't happen to drop by my stream yesterday and put that in the chat? I remember someone writing something in cyrillic letters.Smile

Quote:
I am also a new players and quite enjoying the game. Only joined 2 months ago. I actually am thinking of writing a guide (while all that is still fresh for me) on stuff that new players might need to know and that are not explained clear enough anywhere - i just don't have the time right now.

Right now I am using my spare time to give feedback on new features aimed at new players.

That's awesome!Big smile Keep up the good work mate, I could probably help you out if want a newbie to test in on when you get there!
Quote:
Don't whinge about it on the fora - that only attracts trolls. Unless you*like* troll-baiting. In which case, have t it!

I'll try to avoid it! Big smile
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#72 - 2013-05-24 07:49:39 UTC
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:
Good stuff.

And for God's sake - KEEP YOUR CLONE UP TO DATE!!!

Not sure what you are referring to here, is it like an actual gameplay feature that I completely missed?
(Yesh, I haz noobdom)
Valari Nala Zena
Perkone
Caldari State
#73 - 2013-05-24 08:14:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Valari Nala Zena
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:
Good stuff.

And for God's sake - KEEP YOUR CLONE UP TO DATE!!!

Not sure what you are referring to here, is it like an actual gameplay feature that I completely missed?
(Yesh, I haz noobdom)

When you train, you accumulate skill points, after a while you have more skill points then your clone can hold.
If you get podded (someone killed your pod), you end up in the station your medical clone is set.
You should always upgrade your medical clone to hold more than enough skill points.

If you get podded and your medical clone doesn't have enough skill point capacity, you will lose a level 5 skill i believe, at least a fair amount of skillpoints you didn't want to lose.
So always update your clone, and don't forget to do so again when you get podded.
More info here : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_happens_when_my_character_dies

Also, here are some third party programs i really recommend:

EVEMON
Helps you manage your skillpoints, also warns you when clones are out of date/ you aren't training a skill,...

EFT
Helps you fit a ship out of game.

I use EVEMON and EFT for many years now.

EVE is very large, steep learning curve and there is a lot of variety.
Figure out what you like, personally i joined a pretty big corp (250 members) that was rookie friendly.
They did a bit of everything, pvp, pve, mining, exploring, wormholes, ... and confirm they are active.

EVE University is for example a good corp to learn the game.

Figure out what you like, then find people who do it, have fun.

Ah yes, be careful who you trust is good advice.
Sometimes, you have come to trust someone, you can be betrayed.
I have come across people who join corp, talk on comms, very polite, gained trust, then stole everything they got their hands on.
Valari Nala Zena
Perkone
Caldari State
#74 - 2013-05-24 08:20:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Valari Nala Zena
Double post :(
Gogela
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#75 - 2013-05-24 08:28:07 UTC
Posting is stealth begging scam thread.

...but welcome to EvE.

In a year you'll read your post and you'll get where I'm coming from.

Of course... by then you'll be hooked. ...and it will be too late. Big smile

Signatures should be used responsibly...

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#76 - 2013-05-24 08:46:02 UTC
Valari Nala Zena wrote:
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:
Good stuff.

And for God's sake - KEEP YOUR CLONE UP TO DATE!!!

Not sure what you are referring to here, is it like an actual gameplay feature that I completely missed?
(Yesh, I haz noobdom)

When you train, you accumulate skill points, after a while you have more skill points then your clone can hold.
If you get podded (someone killed your pod), you end up in the station your medical clone is set.
You should always upgrade your medical clone to hold more than enough skill points.

If you get podded and your medical clone doesn't have enough skill point capacity, you will lose a level 5 skill i believe, at least a fair amount of skillpoints you didn't want to lose.
So always update your clone, and don't forget to do so again when you get podded.
More info here : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_happens_when_my_character_dies

All right then, I think I browsed trough those menus yesterday, I dont really have too much sp right now, but I'll keep an eye on my sp so I can upgrade the clone when my SP is getting close to crossing the cap. Thanks for responding! Lol
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#77 - 2013-05-24 08:55:57 UTC
Gogela wrote:
Posting is stealth begging scam thread.

...but welcome to EvE.

In a year you'll read your post and you'll get where I'm coming from.

Of course... by then you'll be hooked. ...and it will be too late. Big smile

Thanks! I'm not really begging for anything (as far as I know). I just felt like sharing my initial impression of EvE, because to be honest I was expecting a crappy mmo game I would play for a couple of hours and just leave, but as my first post said, I find EvE to be more and more fun every day I play! Perhaps I will think that this all looks stupid in a year or two, but I really don't care that much.Smile
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#78 - 2013-05-24 09:34:59 UTC
Ekhss Nihilo wrote:

I'm a new EVE citizen - less than three weeks into it. In a purely practical sense, I recommend doing ALL of the tutorial missions. One the key things you'll get from them is a fair grasp of game mechanics and 'how do I do X'. The life of your ship will often hang on how well you are able to manage your weapons load-outs, their associated ammunition and the general fit of your ship.

Maneuver is vital. It's easy to warp into a location, get fascinated by what's going on and realize too late that you're not moving and have thus become a sitting duck. There's a fine art to kiting - keeping your ship at a certain distance that favors your weapons load-out and capabilities versus over your opponents. And then there's the lesson of learning NOT to orbit one opponent only to orbit into range of another.

I get the impression that mastering these essentials will allow you to punch well above your weight, a premise I have yet to really test.

Good luck with your endeavors in this remarkable universe. It's your story to tell.

Thanks for the combat advice, I'll test them when I get an opportunity! Big smile About the tutorial missions: I agree. As I just started playing EvE some days ago, I think that doing the tutorial missions is a good way get into how the different ways of playing is working.
GallowsCalibrator
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2013-05-24 10:24:39 UTC
Something that's always good to remember - the bigger the exploding ship, the better. Also the more ships that explode, the better.

That includes yours.