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Xbox One Launch.

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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#41 - 2013-05-24 04:52:39 UTC
I find it a bit sad how everyone says it will come out for PC. This is a top level business decision : its a console game and an fps because of that.

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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#42 - 2013-05-24 05:11:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
Well, it is quite conceivable that IF the console version eventually starts to struggle for a few years with low//declining user numbers // income levels, CCP might possibly reverse their initially stated platform selection and expand it to also include a PC version.
But yeah, I wouldn't really expect a PC version before 2016 the earliest, and possibly never.
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#43 - 2013-05-24 05:18:02 UTC
It seems to me CCP has aspirations to endure over the decades by spreading out into a multi game, multiplatform business. They've struck gold with Eve, developing New Eden and levereging that into Dust and a TV series. Given that they need publishers and contractors with the Hardware producers, Sony in this case, this is more than just an FPS for CCP, its the second step in their maturation into more than a one trick pony.

They would prefer to show they can make a console game stand on its own two feet rather than resort to pleasing their existing user base. I'd love them to publish on PC, but I can't fathom a good reason from their perspective to do so in the next 5 years in the incoming console platforms. Better odds on an XB1 version being produced.

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Knight4light
Knights Dimensional Empire
#44 - 2013-05-24 18:56:05 UTC
Xbone is going to lose the consul war before it even starts. Unless they come out with some mind blowing games the playstation will have the advantage and even the wii U would be a better gaming consul. there are so many downsides to the Xbone its not even funny.

no backwards compatability.
no used games. if you want to borrow a game from a friend you'll have to pay a fee to play it.
you are required to connect to the internet about once a day.
they are pushing to have everything on the cloud servers.
also if you plan to buy used xbone games thinking the fee will be ok. microsoft is restricting xbone games to be discounted only 10 percent. example: 60 dollar game on todays used game price is about what. 30 dollars depending.

xbone: 60 dollar game with new used game maximum discount being 10 percent would be only 54 dollars. that is the lowest they would be able to sell it. then add the fee... yah....

xbone wont suport sdtv's so unless you have a hdtv.. you're we'll.. boned.
360 controlers not compatable with xbone

no indi developer support.


now i'll just leave this here. xbone abridged

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Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-05-24 23:55:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Hesod Adee
What would happen if digital copies of Xbox One games are cheaper than the same games on other systems ?

That doesn't happen on PC because retails still sell enough copies of a game that when they threaten to not stock a publisher unless the digital and physical prices match, the publisher caves. The more I read about the details of the second hand fee, the more I see it as a way for MS to gain enough leverage over the retailer that the previous threat won't work for Xbox games.

Lower prices will be a draw to the Xbox, forcing other platforms to chose between calling dropping prices and seeing if the retailers follow through on their threat or simply losing to the Xbox because most people will only see cheaper prices.

So you need to decide if cheaper prices and the guarantee that the game will always be in stock is worth the loss of second hand sales or not.

Now, the Kinect possibly spying on you, that is another matter
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The system could also take into account the age of viewers, limiting playback of mature content to adults, for example. This patent application doesn’t explain how that would work, but a separate Microsoft patent application last year described a system for using sensors to estimate age based on the proportions of their body.


Yes, this means it will be watching you while you watch porn.
Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-05-25 12:50:33 UTC
Xbone is watching you fap. It's almost poetry in motion. Cool
floating in space
#47 - 2013-05-25 18:59:10 UTC
Kirjava wrote:
It seems to me CCP has aspirations to endure over the decades by spreading out into a multi game, multiplatform business. They've struck gold with Eve, developing New Eden and levereging that into Dust and a TV series. Given that they need publishers and contractors with the Hardware producers, Sony in this case, this is more than just an FPS for CCP, its the second step in their maturation into more than a one trick pony.

They would prefer to show they can make a console game stand on its own two feet rather than resort to pleasing their existing user base. I'd love them to publish on PC, but I can't fathom a good reason from their perspective to do so in the next 5 years in the incoming console platforms. Better odds on an XB1 version being produced.


I don't think anyone currently working at CCP was around when it was developed.

To the people who are getting an XBOX1, enjoy your Orwellian telescreen

-24/7 internet connection
-camera/mic
-heat/biometric sensors
-eye movement detection
Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-05-25 23:13:01 UTC
floating in space wrote:

To the people who are getting an XBOX1, enjoy your Orwellian telescreen

-24/7 internet connection
-camera/mic
-heat/biometric sensors
-eye movement detection


There is one significant difference between the XBone and a telescreen from 1984. The Xbone can see in the dark.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#49 - 2013-05-26 06:22:57 UTC
Erika Hamasaki wrote:
The "XBone" as it's being affectionately referred to really isn't doing anything for me... It looks much more like a media center than a gaming console, and all the "features" look... rather intrusive as the last poster commented...
Think I'll stick with PS4 if I can ever afford it, and farewell Micro$oft.


I don't entirely blame them for that, it should be a well duh it plays games. of course they should have some game play footage and some tech demos, didn't they show off a bunch of cod footage? Then again it really doesn't seem to make sense to cater to the non-core audience at the launch announcement, plenty of time to sell it to the soccer moms later.

always online is annoying, and I couldn't care less about the kinect

I dunno overall it is a gaming console, I don't see what all the fuss is about. A lot of it seems less than optimal and will hopefully change (okay the taking a game over to a friend's seems terribly annoying). ah well my interest in consoles is almost completely gone, that might be the main reason I'm not giving a ****.

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-05-26 08:11:33 UTC
Hesod Adee wrote:
floating in space wrote:

To the people who are getting an XBOX1, enjoy your Orwellian telescreen

-24/7 internet connection
-camera/mic
-heat/biometric sensors
-eye movement detection


There is one significant difference between the XBone and a telescreen from 1984. The Xbone can see in the dark.


We have advanced. Orwell would be so proud.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#51 - 2013-05-26 17:49:11 UTC
Graygor wrote:
Hesod Adee wrote:
floating in space wrote:

To the people who are getting an XBOX1, enjoy your Orwellian telescreen

-24/7 internet connection
-camera/mic
-heat/biometric sensors
-eye movement detection


There is one significant difference between the XBone and a telescreen from 1984. The Xbone can see in the dark.


We have advanced. Orwell would be so proud.

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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#52 - 2013-05-28 12:46:23 UTC
Graygor wrote:
Hesod Adee wrote:
floating in space wrote:

To the people who are getting an XBOX1, enjoy your Orwellian telescreen

-24/7 internet connection
-camera/mic
-heat/biometric sensors
-eye movement detection


There is one significant difference between the XBone and a telescreen from 1984. The Xbone can see in the dark.


We have advanced. Orwell would be so proud.

Truely, as we are the ones buying the equipment for the pleasure of being spied upon.

I doubt he could have conceived of such a method, we know what it will lead to and we still damn well do it.

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