Ships & Modules

I'd say that sov null sec is quite a bit more safe than NPC null sec and WH space.

I'd say risk looks like this (greatest to least):
FW Low Sec
Open WH Space (eg, you aren't collapsing every incoming and are rolling for targets)
NPC Null Sec
Non-FW Low Sec
Buttoned WH Space (you are collapsing every incoming and not using your static)
High Sec
Sov Null Sec

As such, I've had no problems missioning in a carrier in FW low sec and a marauder in NPC null sec and open WH space.

-Liang

I'm not really a big fan of ratting but when I do it I either do it in nullsec with a pair of Naga's (dual boxing). Or in a wormhole with a pair of tengus

In nullsec, it pays about 45-50mil ticks (a tick is 20 min), which is 135-150 mil per hour before salvaging, which is another almost 100 mil per hour if you dual box noctis'. (this is only really useful if you have two screens).

If you're lucky one of the sites will also "escalate" which means you get a bookmark to a complex, which can pay big paydays. The complexes that result from teh anomolies I run are 9/10 which are easy to solo if you have the right ships and I've had them pay out as much as 3 bil, but usually only about 1bil. That's for about 90 min of work, all in. You don't get escallations every day though so it's really the icing on the cake but not the cake.

The point being that making 500mil in a day ratting is perfectly feasible but you need to focus on ratting and it will take you several hours.

In the wormhole it really depends on what you're doing but I think you can make more isk per hour killing sleepers than rats in nullsec. It takes more setting up though because you need to scan the exits and put scouts on them so you don't get ganked. So in the WH I'm usually quad boxing but 2 of them will be cloaked near exits. The up side of the WH if yuo're set up for it is that you can easily make 150 per hour in a C3. At least I can, but I have the impression that with more practice I could push that number up to about 200.

So yeah. You don't need anything too amazing to make a huge buttload of isk from ratting. All it takes is time and the tolerance to do the same thing over and over and over and over again.

Running level 5s with a carrier is fun, not because of the missions but because of all of the cat and mouse, contant interuptions, flying in alts to kill tacklers and whatnot.

Not something I would try without insurance though, I've had a LOT of close calls that way.

Again, they're not gonna lose anything if they use them properly.
In a Blue Sov Nullsec area, with active intel channels and an eye on Local, I'll say it again : if you lose your carrier, you're an idiot.
If you have neither of those, just don't rat in a carrier

You have to be really slow on the draw to lose ratting carrier.
Anything is possible of course, but you shouldn't have a carrier alone in a system anyway.

By alone I mean me myself and I

. An alt or three

On that note, Level 5s with Marauder backup is pretty pimp ****.

-Liang

all over the null maaaan :D

but seriously i prefer assigning fighters to to ratting nagas, safer and is not a gank magnet so i won't have a neut in system sitting and camping it

Doing what pray tell?


.....and as a point of order I would prefer to not rat at all, its not terribly exciting.

I was doing 150 an hour in my Vindicator. It was miserable though I had to pay attention and that doesn't fit my Eve playstyle.