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When YOU are doing pvp?
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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-05-23 13:11:59 UTC
Do you fire the first shot, or do you wait till your opponent(s) have fired the first shot?

If you fire the first shot you are the aggressor, and your opponent is simply defending her/his self.

If they fire the first shot at you, they are the aggressor, and you are simply defending yourself.

Me, I'll never fire the first shot.
Marianne Pollard
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-05-23 13:15:57 UTC
I'd also be interested to know how long a piece of string is.

Anyone?

Mocking the afflicted since 2013.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-05-23 13:16:17 UTC
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Do you fire the first shot, or do you wait till your opponent(s) have fired the first shot?

If you fire the first shot you are the aggressor, and your opponent is simply defending her/his self.

If they fire the first shot at you, they are the aggressor, and you are simply defending yourself.

Me, I'll never fire the first shot.




If you're at war then to wait until they fire at you is daft.
EdFromHumanResources
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-05-23 13:17:58 UTC
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Do you fire the first shot, or do you wait till your opponent(s) have fired the first shot?

If you fire the first shot you are the aggressor, and your opponent is simply defending her/his self.

If they fire the first shot at you, they are the aggressor, and you are simply defending yourself.

Me, I'll never fire the first shot.


Spoken like a true high sec dweller.
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-05-23 13:19:56 UTC
Six Six Six wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Do you fire the first shot, or do you wait till your opponent(s) have fired the first shot?

If you fire the first shot you are the aggressor, and your opponent is simply defending her/his self.

If they fire the first shot at you, they are the aggressor, and you are simply defending yourself.

Me, I'll never fire the first shot.




If you're at war then to wait until they fire at you is daft.


Not necessarily, if they use a gun your shields if the round hits can absorb the first round, if they use missiles or rockets you can see em coming, if they use lasers they might miss with the first salvo. Its the principal of who shoots first becomes the aggressor.
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-05-23 13:21:05 UTC
EdFromHumanResources wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Do you fire the first shot, or do you wait till your opponent(s) have fired the first shot?

If you fire the first shot you are the aggressor, and your opponent is simply defending her/his self.

If they fire the first shot at you, they are the aggressor, and you are simply defending yourself.

Me, I'll never fire the first shot.


Spoken like a true high sec dweller.


You make that sound like its a bad thing.
dark heartt
#7 - 2013-05-23 13:26:38 UTC
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Do you fire the first shot, or do you wait till your opponent(s) have fired the first shot?

If you fire the first shot you are the aggressor, and your opponent is simply defending her/his self.

If they fire the first shot at you, they are the aggressor, and you are simply defending yourself.

Me, I'll never fire the first shot.




If you're at war then to wait until they fire at you is daft.


Not necessarily, if they use a gun your shields if the round hits can absorb the first round.


I think what you meant to say was this: "If they use a gun and the round hits, your shields can absorb the first round." Is that what you were trying to say? If yes, then what happens when you are in a shield tanked ship?

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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-05-23 13:26:52 UTC
I am always the aggressor.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#9 - 2013-05-23 13:37:05 UTC
I don't shoot your shields, I shoot your capacitor. Then come the drones....
EdFromHumanResources
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-05-23 13:42:03 UTC
Adela Talvanen wrote:
EdFromHumanResources wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Do you fire the first shot, or do you wait till your opponent(s) have fired the first shot?

If you fire the first shot you are the aggressor, and your opponent is simply defending her/his self.

If they fire the first shot at you, they are the aggressor, and you are simply defending yourself.

Me, I'll never fire the first shot.


Spoken like a true high sec dweller.


You make that sound like its a bad thing.


You're a blind man giving input on what colors compliment each other.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-05-23 13:47:21 UTC
Enjoy your short Eve career of losing with honor.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-05-23 13:48:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Adela Talvanen
dark heartt wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Do you fire the first shot, or do you wait till your opponent(s) have fired the first shot?

If you fire the first shot you are the aggressor, and your opponent is simply defending her/his self.

If they fire the first shot at you, they are the aggressor, and you are simply defending yourself.

Me, I'll never fire the first shot.




If you're at war then to wait until they fire at you is daft.


Not necessarily, if they use a gun your shields if the round hits can absorb the first round.


I think what you meant to say was this: "If they use a gun and the round hits, your shields can absorb the first round." Is that what you were trying to say? If yes, then what happens when you are in a shield tanked ship?


Yes, and if your shield suffered a high rate of damage on the opening salvo, if you were not warp scrambled you would be prudent to exit asap, those that turn and run away live to fight another day.

But they fired the first shot they are the aggressor, and you would have the moral high ground to return in a better combat ship for revenge, provided you made a note of your opponents name.
Val Leonis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-05-23 13:53:39 UTC
EdFromHumanResources wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
EdFromHumanResources wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Do you fire the first shot, or do you wait till your opponent(s) have fired the first shot?

If you fire the first shot you are the aggressor, and your opponent is simply defending her/his self.

If they fire the first shot at you, they are the aggressor, and you are simply defending yourself.

Me, I'll never fire the first shot.


Spoken like a true high sec dweller.


You make that sound like its a bad thing.


You're a blind man giving input on what colors compliment each other.

I hope your day gets better. =/
Morrow Disca
SniggWaffe
WAFFLES.
#14 - 2013-05-23 13:54:25 UTC
My sec status suggests that i fire first frequently.

However, if you can get a neut to shoot you first all the better not to tank gate guns, or just 0.0 it up v0v
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-05-23 13:58:16 UTC
Adela Talvanen wrote:

Me, I'll never fire the first shot.


Then you will suffer the consequences.

*pew*

Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-05-23 13:58:42 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
Enjoy your short Eve career of losing with honor.


What a silly statement.

Ex: You are in a T3 I am in a T3, you shoot at me first, you are the aggressor, and I'm morally right in shooting back. You attacked me, I didn't attack you.

And an eve career is as long as you pay subs to CCP to play the game.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-05-23 13:59:21 UTC
Adela Talvanen wrote:


But they fired the first shot they are the aggressor, and you would have the moral high ground to return in a better combat ship for revenge, provided you made a note of your opponents name.



I'd stick to high-sec if I was you.
Ayuren Aakiwa
When i Look Up At The Stars I Am Filled With Rage
#18 - 2013-05-23 14:01:34 UTC
I have noticed that simply being aggresive and acting as the predator and not the prey can have quite an effect on your opponent.
Dgram Loop
Dutch Squad
#19 - 2013-05-23 14:08:34 UTC
Han shot first and so will I, even if it leads to gate gun aggro ;)
Slutvana Khorkina
Bad Touches
#20 - 2013-05-23 14:12:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Slutvana Khorkina
Whether I shoot first or not only makes me the agressor according to the rules of the game. If I wardec you, I am the agressor regardless of whether I press F1 first when we meet. If I am bumping you off the gate to keep you from jumping while my mates arrive to gank you, I'm the agressor and won't even fire a shot while you burn.

If I've decided we are going to fight then whether I actually fire the first short or not largely depends on whether the fight is taking place near a gate or station.

EDIT: I hate the title of this thread. In Eve you are always doing PvP. Its the "I wasn't PvP'ing" mindset in this game that results in glorious forum tear threads.

"Imagine the kind of stories people would read about EVE if the carebears got their wish. 'In EVE Online, some people mined. They arranged their mining lasers, and then they did something else for several minutes. Sign up for your free 14 day trial now!'" -- James 315
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