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Dual Training Is A Rip Off

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Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#101 - 2013-05-23 04:36:24 UTC
It is always funny to see how butthurt people are about companies gaining money from a product they made. Now we have one of the best companies in the (gaming) world and some hippies still begrudge them the money (besides the fact that they lose it instead of making moar).

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Andrea Griffin
#102 - 2013-05-23 05:15:24 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
So flexibility is all it is really Smile
And some of us even appreciate it.

By the way, I think this is a great idea and I'm happy that it is happening. Thank you.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#103 - 2013-05-23 05:50:03 UTC
Someone is definitly butthurt here!

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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#104 - 2013-05-23 07:08:02 UTC
SDS Recruitment wrote:
If people could afford to buy plex to bring ingame they would have dual accounts

already do.
many people have at least 2 accounts with no more than 1 character per account. some even have more than 20 accounts.
Macharius Deuterion
Ascon Research
#105 - 2013-05-23 10:39:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Macharius Deuterion
SDS Recruitment wrote:
There is no

If's or Butts here

This is nothing more than a way for ccp to make money and makes no sence

If people could afford to buy plex to bring ingame they would have dual accounts

There is NO viable reason why we should NOT be able to train three chars on one account or switch to each INGAME other than CCP greed

This is nothing more than a blatent market attempt to get more money

Shame on you

SHAME ON YOU

You know what? If you don't like the feature then don't use it. The thing is this feature doesn't change whether CCP is more greedy or not because its an optional one.
KasparHauser
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2013-05-23 11:06:01 UTC
What? Corporations out to make money? Shocked
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#107 - 2013-05-23 11:30:23 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Yeah, CCP will potentially end up losing money on this. It really depends on user behavior though. Depending upon what people were doing beforehand with alts, character transfers, 51-day alts, etc.

You know, I think this is actually a very encouraging thing to see. It's essentially microtransactions done right. Maybe they've learned something?

Yes, on the face of it, it looks like something that will end up costing them making them less money than before, since it short-circuits a number of income sources. But what it does do is scratch that itch that makes MT work: it lowers the bar for usage and makes things massively more convenient. It used to be a bit of a faff getting a special-purpose alt going, what with the new account creation and character juggling, which created friction that kept people from doing it… now, it's so trivial that no-one will even think twice. Just throw a PLEX at it and go ahead. There's no reason not to, so everyone will do it all the time and twice on Sundays. This translates into more money for CCP.

Sure, it's a bit of a bet on player behaviour, but I think it's a solid one that will undoubtedly pay off. And yes, this means they're back on the MT wagon, but this trial balloon shows that they're thinking about it right this time.
Nessa Aldeen
First Among Equals
#108 - 2013-05-23 11:45:23 UTC
SDS Recruitment wrote:
There is no

If's or Butts here

This is nothing more than a way for ccp to make money and makes no sence

If people could afford to buy plex to bring ingame they would have dual accounts

There is NO viable reason why we should NOT be able to train three chars on one account or switch to each INGAME other than CCP greed

This is nothing more than a blatent market attempt to get more money

Shame on you

SHAME ON YOU


I think the shame is on you for even posting without any coherent argument. If you have ANY reading skills at all, there is a purpose to having it. Unfortunately, you are too dumb or too dense to even understand the dev blog they have crafted. Perhaps, a permanent visit to WOW and remain there should be advised.

TL:DR You are a dumbass and yeah STFU.
Gorgoth24
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2013-05-31 01:37:21 UTC
Did you not consider that someone with two accounts may want to have a carrier on one account and add cyno alts to the other account. And, with this new mechanic, doesn't have to sacrifice training time to do so? I think it's a bit silly to call CCP money hungry because they're obviously one the most caring companies about their products in business right now. Come on
None ofthe Above
#110 - 2013-05-31 02:20:02 UTC
I think it's a great idea and will be using it.

Thanks CCP!

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Haulie Berry
#111 - 2013-05-31 02:22:38 UTC
SDS Recruitment wrote:
I am an idiot.


Fixed your OP for you, HTH.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#112 - 2013-05-31 02:31:08 UTC
Yup, making it cheaper to train 2 toons is most def a rip off.
Pull your finger out buddy.

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Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#113 - 2013-05-31 02:47:21 UTC
After reading this thread I asked someone in game about it. I was a little confused, sounds like you use a plex to train an alt on one account and runs out the same time the plex would run out on another account, it sounds like a total wash to me....

...then the wheels started turning, I could make a market or indy alt and train just enough to get them going and then I could have both toons on the same account and only pay for one account, whereas the old way you would have to continue to pay for both accounts in order to use them. Nice!

Then I thought seems kinda worthless for cyno alts, even after learning you can transfer them to a second account, its still a wash for cap pilots.

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#114 - 2013-05-31 02:54:00 UTC
Onomerous
Caldari Black Hand
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#115 - 2013-05-31 12:21:34 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:

...then the wheels started turning, I could make a market or indy alt and train just enough to get them going and then I could have both toons on the same account and only pay for one account, whereas the old way you would have to continue to pay for both accounts in order to use them. Nice!


That is precisely what it can do for you. OP doesn't seem to be about get his wheels turning though.
Lilliana Stelles
#116 - 2013-05-31 12:28:02 UTC
I'm just afraid Dual Training will murder datacore and PI prices. Since datacore and PI characters only take a few weeks to train, and now they can be active 24/7 without paying an additional fee.

So it will be difficult to stay competitive in either market without using multiple characters on each account.

Not a forum alt. 

GermanAkilae
Harbingers of Chaos Inc.
Fraternity.
#117 - 2013-05-31 12:35:46 UTC
I think it's a fairy good idea but i have issues with the fact that you pay £9.99 a month to play 1 account, or you can of course pay via PLEX but a PLEX costs around £16? so wheres the logic in pricing PLEX at £16 when its only worth £9.99 to sub the game?
Freeman11
State War Academy
Caldari State
#118 - 2013-05-31 12:39:53 UTC
I see dual training as a particularly effective ISK sink - and nothing more. It is removing 520-580mil from the market while increasing the amount of players training skills.

This game is ruthless...

Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#119 - 2013-05-31 12:40:36 UTC
It's a good idea, as the community has been asking for this for as long as I can remember.

The sad part is that you can't play both toons at once .

...

Ultim8Evil
Exit-Strategy
Unchained Alliance
#120 - 2013-05-31 12:48:11 UTC
All the cost of a 2nd account, without the flexibility.

Someone convince me otherwise What?

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