EVE General Discussion

Actually to the guy who said a noob in an AF would lose to a battle cruiser, I disagree. If he's nos'd/cap boosted with a TD he can win pretty easily. There are some afs that are just great at fighting above their class. Not to say it wouldn't be difficult, but its totally doable. When some irl friends were a week old we did a 3 man rifter roam. Almost dropped a solo cane. We actually would have but then 2 pirate tengus unrelated to our target dropped in.

posting in a stealth "I'm leaving EVE, rageragerage madmadmad" thread.

actually you are so wrong in your assumption that the one with the most skillpoints automaticly wins

yes it is true that the person with the higher sp has a slight advantage , but overall the winner is the one who strikes at the best opportunity with the ship that is fitted for the occasion
that is solo pvp and small gang

large fleet fights it depends on the FC , if he has balls your side wins so simple

and another thing PVP isn't soley about winning , it is a game afterall not a second job

and yes i am a awedul pvper myself , i hardly have any kills and some bad losses , but i still have fun

aslong the new launcher willlet me play

Pretty sure you're completely wrong.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=corp&name=Cipher+Jones+Holdings+LLC

the problem with eve pvp isn't that "moar sp wins", rather, it's that people are too cautious. fleets tend not to engage each other unless they're certain they're going to win. this leads to hours of flying around, doing nothing because the other guys are bigger. this is boring.

9mio SP pilot (w/o thermodynamic skills) kills lots of stuff: Born Imbalanced

Wait.... what? Are you kidding me?

<--- This toon has solo-killed an 03 account. You know even less about EVE PvP than I do.

I can confirm this!
Got a funny ******** story when I started and wanted to go PVP
But I can proudly say now I'm the BEST in ECM because I can (almost) perma-jam a 10 years old toon and keep him pointed until my noobish 2 weeks old toons back up arrive and start chewing his armor or wiping his shields

It is sucks to have low SP yes, but when you focus that low SP in somewhere you can shine it it, then you might be better than 10 years old 450 million SP toon (if that ever exists)

just saying

Ok.. I know lot of people has covered this subject now and all that can be said has probably been said already..

One thing I still remember from when I started playing eve back in '09 and were doing my first real pvp were the following scenario.
I were in a drake in low sec, flying from belt to belt killing rats. At that point I had no idea what so ever about how to find fights and what to expect so I just assumed that I would run into someone sooner or later and then I could as well make some isk in the mean time.
I did at some point meet someone and the ship I met was a frigate, although I dont remember which one specifically.
This is where your thesis gets proven wrong.
We were both pvp fit, and I managed to get scram and webs on the frigate so that I were able to control range. I died though but the frigate were in half structure. Only then I found out that I had forgotten to launch drones, which most likely would have killed the frigate before I had been killed.
I dont know which of us had the most SP, but that doesnt matter in this situation, because of this:

1. Frigate had more SP: He killed me yes.. but what would have happened if I had remembered my drones? He would have been killed, so in that case it was my piloting mistake that killed me and I would have won if only I had more experience in using my ship to its full extent.
2. I had the most SP: In that case I think I've already pointed out that I were the one who died. I could have won if I had used my drones, but that was a piloting error and not a SP error. Now I know you will say that it just proves that if I had been using my ship probably and not broken your formula it would still be true, but what if he had been a better pilot then and made sure that he didnt get into my scram and web range and had been able to control distance and thereby limit the incoming dps from the missiles and drones? then he would most likely have won even if I too had made the better choice of using my drones.

No matter who had the most SP in this fight it was all decided by who made the worst mistakes. I did in this case but it was not my SP that limited me and made me die. It was my lack of pvp experience that made me overlook the fact that I could have used my drones. It was too his bad judgement of keeping a too tight orbit, that allowed me to pulse my mwd and get scram and webs on him. Nothing to do with SP.

I know most people have very similar examples of close fights where the outcome were decided by someones mistake at using their ship. that in itself proves your theory wrong.

This account is from 2008 and I have 16m SP.

Problem OP?