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Dual Training Is A Rip Off

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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#81 - 2013-05-17 17:08:46 UTC
Six Six Six wrote:
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
dark heartt wrote:
SDS Recruitment wrote:
There is no

If's or Butts here

This is nothing more than a way for ccp to make money and makes no sence

If people could afford to buy plex to bring ingame they would have dual accounts


Actually I see them losing money from this. I only have one account at the moment, and have had no need for an alt account so I wouldn't pay for one. However this gives me the option to train an alt in a very specialised way but not lose training time on my main character.

Quote:
There is NO viable reason why we should NOT be able to train three chars on one account or switch to each INGAME other than CCP greed


So you don't want CCP to make money to keep running this game? Ok then.

You are a particularly bad troll...


You simply don't understand how alts are used. In order for most alts to be useful, they have to be online at the same time....Oops

And CCP will do whatever is needed to take more of your money, this is EVE.....





Not all alts are equal, just depends what you want to use that alt for. You are right about still needing another account for your alt if you want it in the game with your main. But there are other types of alt that don't require your main to be online so for this type it's a welcome change, trader is a good example.



Manufacturing alts don't need your main online, either.

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#82 - 2013-05-17 17:21:10 UTC
Roime wrote:
Move L4s and 4/10s to lowsec

But remove insurance first!

Remove standings and insurance.
To Be Me
Doomheim
#83 - 2013-05-17 17:24:11 UTC
if i was a mod id just delete this thread and ban your stupid ignorant asss from the forums.

thumbs up if you like :))))
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#84 - 2013-05-17 18:47:00 UTC
Quote:
Move L4s and 4/10s to lowsec


Lol. Fine, move level 5's to High.

Right after you close this thread for being a duplicate.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2013-05-17 18:48:56 UTC
To Be Me wrote:
if i was a mod id just delete this thread and ban your stupid ignorant asss from the forums.


first good post in the thread
Dalmont Delantee
Gecko Corp
#86 - 2013-05-17 19:08:39 UTC
SDS Recruitment wrote:


This is nothing more than a blatent market attempt to get more money

Shame on you

SHAME ON YOU


Please tell me how you work for free, and all your charity work. Also please tell me how you live with no food home etc.

Also please go back to wow, big boys games seem to confuse you.
Dyvim Slorm
Coven of the Morrigan
#87 - 2013-05-17 19:09:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Dyvim Slorm
OP is very poor troll.

If you don't want to dual train, then don't dual train
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#88 - 2013-05-17 19:29:26 UTC
SDS Recruitment wrote:
There is no

If's or Butts here

This is nothing more than a way for ccp to make money and makes no sence

If people could afford to buy plex to bring ingame they would have dual accounts

There is NO viable reason why we should NOT be able to train three chars on one account or switch to each INGAME other than CCP greed

This is nothing more than a blatent market attempt to get more money

Shame on you

SHAME ON YOU




It's a much wanted and expected change so it's a very good choice.

It's also a very good choice because of sooner specific strategy doing it differently could cause a huge economical loss for the company which wouldn't be good for everyone starting by players.

It's a very good compromise, you can keep your usual multi character/account training or 2 in the same account, it's all good, everyone wins no one looses.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#89 - 2013-05-17 19:31:45 UTC
And it's purely *voluntary*...

0/10

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Alexila Quant
Versatility Production Corporation' LLC
#90 - 2013-05-17 19:42:21 UTC
Gonna work off of the assumption that this isn't a troll thread and say that just using a single plex to get a month of PI training in without having to pay the $20 character transfer fee is worth, and CCP will actually lose a little bit of money on the characters transfers that won't be needed as much. (Although the gains from easily training another character on the same account will probably outweigh the loss)










Posting in a troll thread.
Hikura Zero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2013-05-21 21:09:42 UTC
Well that is bloody right out of order.
IF this was a free to play game I would understand.. But you're asking players to pay a secondary subscription fee on-top of the already expensive subscription fee.

Not cool.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#92 - 2013-05-21 21:37:25 UTC
Hikura Zero wrote:
Well that is bloody right out of order.
IF this was a free to play game I would understand.. But you're asking players to pay a secondary subscription fee on-top of the already expensive subscription fee.

Not cool.


They're not asking you to do anything.

They're making available the option of paying/PLEXing to do something that you ordinarily can't. Shockingly, if you don't exercise this option, your 'already expensive' subscription won't cost you anything extra.

If you don't want to do it, then don't; there is no force being employed here.
Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
#93 - 2013-05-21 21:58:54 UTC
Not the greatest thing ever, but might come in handy in certain situations. Well actually it comes in handy every time you want an alt and dont need him to be logged in with one of your existing chars. If you want to create an alt and train him for longer periods of time while at the same time using him, a new account espacially for this character would make more sense.
But I dont see how this is a rip off. Every Eve player knows a vast amount of paying subscriptions are alt accounts. There even was an article about it somewhere. Two accounts for every player on average in Eve?

Yay 10 years! :D
dark heartt
#94 - 2013-05-21 22:29:37 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
dark heartt wrote:
SDS Recruitment wrote:
There is no

If's or Butts here

This is nothing more than a way for ccp to make money and makes no sence

If people could afford to buy plex to bring ingame they would have dual accounts


Actually I see them losing money from this. I only have one account at the moment, and have had no need for an alt account so I wouldn't pay for one. However this gives me the option to train an alt in a very specialised way but not lose training time on my main character.

Quote:
There is NO viable reason why we should NOT be able to train three chars on one account or switch to each INGAME other than CCP greed


So you don't want CCP to make money to keep running this game? Ok then.

You are a particularly bad troll...


You simply don't understand how alts are used. In order for most alts to be useful, they have to be online at the same time....Oops

And CCP will do whatever is needed to take more of your money, this is EVE.....



I did not say that I don't have alts, I do, 4 of them in fact. At the moment those 4 accounts are unsubbed, as I have no use for them. And there are a number of uses that don't require the character to be online, but still making isk (PI, Manufacturing, Research, Invention, Market Shenanigans). I do understand alts.

I have no issue with CCP taking my money. They are a business, not some sort of gang robbing you blind at every opportunity. Everything here is optional, and if you choose to drop money on it, that's your choice. If you choose not to, that's your choice. Either option is fine, but you are at no point forced to take them up on the offers. Unless you have no self control and just buy everything that CCP puts out, then you have no reason to complain that a business wants to take your money. That's kind of the point.

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Joxxy
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#95 - 2013-05-21 22:42:29 UTC
Dual training on one account is awsome idea and I personally love it !
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2013-05-21 22:58:02 UTC
CCP is trying to make money?!

THOSE SELL OUTS!

Im going to write them a long angry letter about this, which I will have delivered to their HQ by a frowning pidgeon!

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Shiho Weitong
Yeet and Yoink Inc.
Heirs To The Pleasurehub
#97 - 2013-05-21 23:02:57 UTC
Obvious troll is obvious, but I'll bite.

Imagine me and my 8 alts suddenly being trained on 3 accounts worth of money/isk.
Imagine the other altaholics, here doing the same.
While I do fuel my addiction with plex off the market, there's still someone dropping the cash for my gametime.

Let's not kill our game with player greed.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#98 - 2013-05-23 02:56:46 UTC
SDS Recruitment wrote:
There is no

If's or Butts here

This is nothing more than a way for ccp to make money and makes no sence

If people could afford to buy plex to bring ingame they would have dual accounts

There is NO viable reason why we should NOT be able to train three chars on one account or switch to each INGAME other than CCP greed

This is nothing more than a blatent market attempt to get more money

Shame on you

SHAME ON YOU


I think one plex should get you 2 months of training time, considering having two clients ( which costs the same or less ) means you can have both characters logged in at the same time. The loss of that benefit should be worth some sort of discount in the price.

Even 3 months for 2 plex would be o.k.

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SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#99 - 2013-05-23 04:15:21 UTC
Actually it will be a money loser. A lot of nullsec pilots simply want to quickly train PI alts on their account or Cyno characters and can now plex up to the SP they need for those goals and not need to purchase another account that they will have to keep running.

For purpose built alts this is frankly awesome and is going to let me strip down to just two accounts for the cost of 2 plex, and I can divest myself of my 3rd account which I have to keep plexed for the lifetime of my eve career if I want easy access to those cyno alts.

It's p baller frankly.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#100 - 2013-05-23 04:21:34 UTC
Yeah, CCP will potentially end up losing money on this. It really depends on user behavior though. Depending upon what people were doing beforehand with alts, character transfers, 51-day alts, etc.

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