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Exactly, why is this launcher supposed to be better?
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Auduin Samson
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2013-05-22 17:30:50 UTC
I must say, this really makes logging multiple accounts a pain in the ass. It went from two clicks of the Play button to clicking, waiting for the first window to load, going back to the launcher, re-logging, and waiting for the second. A process that used to take ten seconds now takes over a minute. I must say, I'm not impressed. It takes some skill to screw up a loading bar and a Play button.
Vera Denjuros
Black Void Forges
#22 - 2013-05-22 17:41:49 UTC
And now that everyone is using the workaround Exefile.exe method, I forsee that there will be a lot of pissed off people when they decide to remove the ingame login alltogether.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#23 - 2013-05-22 17:44:59 UTC
With this new framework, it would take minimal effort to implement a rapid (near-instant) character swap mechanic that does not involve relogging. Considering the upcoming changes with dual-training, I wouldn't be surprised if that functionality is right around the corner.
Vera Denjuros
Black Void Forges
#24 - 2013-05-22 17:55:55 UTC
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#25 - 2013-05-22 18:33:29 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
- The new launcher is also capable of staying open, this is simply an option that looks like is now on by default in the new one, just change it.
- Those menus you are referring to were a convenience thing but far from the launcher's purpose
- The current purpose of the launcher is to provide a new login system that is external to the client, a upfront location for news items, and provide a few quick links to some vital pages such as account management or customer support or patch notes



And plex sales , and power of two , and AUR deals and ..... KACHINNNNNNNNNNNNNNG


I was referring to the small grey colored links at the top....


but not gonna deny that the stuff you mentioned is emblazoned upon the launcher with large pictures and bold font.

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Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-05-22 18:36:28 UTC
One thing I'd like the new launcher to have is the ability to select your character as well, so you can just go straight to space when the client launches.

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Dultas
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2013-05-22 19:25:20 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Dring Dingle wrote:
Click the cog wheel / settings to get access to the "close on launch option. I had the same issue


Which is ironic cause 90% of us were bugged that it DIDNT auto close when the first version of the launcher was introduced.


I would bet money that fact played part in now requiring you to use the launcher. The launcher was a great asset for marketing and no one was using it. So they forced us to use it. I don't care what they promise the launcher will do in the future, if it doesn't improve functionality now, but will 12 months from now, then don't release it until 12 months from now.
Bloody Wench
#28 - 2013-05-22 22:30:47 UTC
Dultas wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Dring Dingle wrote:
Click the cog wheel / settings to get access to the "close on launch option. I had the same issue


Which is ironic cause 90% of us were bugged that it DIDNT auto close when the first version of the launcher was introduced.


I would bet money that fact played part in now requiring you to use the launcher. The launcher was a great asset for marketing and no one was using it. So they forced us to use it. I don't care what they promise the launcher will do in the future, if it doesn't improve functionality now, but will 12 months from now, then don't release it until 12 months from now.



You're not forced to use it dummy.

locate exefile.exe create shortcut

no more launcher.

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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#29 - 2013-05-22 22:33:13 UTC
The new launcher is the fault of CSM8. Less than a month on the job and we have this to thank them for.
Bloody Wench
#30 - 2013-05-22 22:58:00 UTC
Just create a shortcut from the ExeFile.exe in the bin folder from where you installed EvE, no launcher needed that way, and you get the logoff option in the client

[u]**Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: **[/u]  CCP should not only make local delayed in highsec, but they should also require one be undocked to use it. Then, even the local spammers have some skin in the game. Support a High Resolution Texture Pack
Khira Kitamatsu
#31 - 2013-05-22 23:06:57 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
Just create a shortcut from the ExeFile.exe in the bin folder from where you installed EvE, no launcher needed that way, and you get the logoff option in the client


We shouldn't need to circumvent or work around anything. Face it, CCP screwed the pooch on this and all it has done is bungled up what was once perfectly good. They give us no good explaination as to why this new launcher is superior to the old. They just tell us it is and yet, from what we know now(because we're using it) it is inferior in every way compared to the old. This would be like Internet providers going from always on the Internet to having to use dial-up to get online.

CCP telling us, it is better for the future of the game without telling us how is just sad and just shows once again that they are back to their old games of thumbing their noses at the customer base.

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-05-22 23:09:07 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Does this situation remind anyone of Incarna?

CCP published a half-baked "thing" that was a guy walking around a room with a door that he couldn't open and a ledge (balconey to the ship hanger) that he couldn't jump off of...and believe me i tried lol. But that's ALL it was ,It was basically a "place holder for future awesomeness".

This new launcher is also supposed to be awesome....in the future.

Note to CCP, if you feel the itch to deploy other features that "will be awesome in the future", do us a favor and wait till the damn future when it's finished, THEN deploy it.


I normally hate you and all your posts, but this one makes me gleefully agree with you.

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-05-22 23:10:19 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
Just create a shortcut from the ExeFile.exe in the bin folder from where you installed EvE, no launcher needed that way, and you get the logoff option in the client



How is this suppose to help the 75% of players who don't visit the forums?

Hrm? Hrm?

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Vera Denjuros
Black Void Forges
#34 - 2013-05-23 00:10:20 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
Dultas wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Dring Dingle wrote:
Click the cog wheel / settings to get access to the "close on launch option. I had the same issue


Which is ironic cause 90% of us were bugged that it DIDNT auto close when the first version of the launcher was introduced.


I would bet money that fact played part in now requiring you to use the launcher. The launcher was a great asset for marketing and no one was using it. So they forced us to use it. I don't care what they promise the launcher will do in the future, if it doesn't improve functionality now, but will 12 months from now, then don't release it until 12 months from now.



You're not forced to use it dummy.

locate exefile.exe create shortcut

no more launcher.


Think again, "For the moment the old method of logging into the client will remain, but in the long term we're intending to remove it." - CCP Atropos

We gonna be stuck with it eventually.
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#35 - 2013-05-23 00:47:49 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
Just create a shortcut from the ExeFile.exe in the bin folder from where you installed EvE, no launcher needed that way, and you get the logoff option in the client

Doesn't bypassing the launcher (even the old one) also bypass the validation and patching process?
Inna Cristiana
GucciGang
#36 - 2013-05-23 00:51:28 UTC
Drunken Bum wrote:
I remember when the launcher was initially released. Everyone whined like it was a huge deal. Now its improved and everyones whining that its changed. A lot of people need to step the **** back and re-examine their lives if this is really such a big deal.


The launcher was in a FINISHED STATE when it was released back then.

Right now? it's not even 25% of the way.
Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2013-05-23 01:32:58 UTC
Setaceous wrote:
Bloody Wench wrote:
Just create a shortcut from the ExeFile.exe in the bin folder from where you installed EvE, no launcher needed that way, and you get the logoff option in the client

Doesn't bypassing the launcher (even the old one) also bypass the validation and patching process?


As a result of experimenting with this the other day, I THINK that if the game isn't the right version it will tell you and give you the option to update, and then fire up the launcher.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#38 - 2013-05-23 01:38:27 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
I think point of whole thing was to bring you in game a tad faster....

I cant remember last time i stop at login screen to watch animation there,so i am not gonna miss it...

Also ..don't care.


I can remember the last time I stopped at log in screen and I loved it.

It's another piece of EvE.... "EvEness" that is being ripped away from the players.

Enjoy the AWESOME (ever heard of this CCP motto?) new cheap Korean launcher MMO looks!

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Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#39 - 2013-05-23 01:44:19 UTC
As well, it really shouldn't take nearly 6 minutes to validate the client... the old launcher only took roughly 30 seconds. I can handle the rest of this launcher thing... just, please, make it validate faster!

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