EVE General Discussion

I can't really argue with this at all.

But I don't pay every single month for 4 accounts just to have CCP give me only utilitarian functionality.

Yeah. It's particularly bad if you have to log in more than few clients in through that thing. Hell, even guys with just 2 accounts hate it in my corp. I'm myself at 6 atm and after doing it 2 times (having to click thru EULA both times btw) I were forced to just do the "direct link to ExeFile.exe".

I particularly dont like the extra poinless additional click which you have to do already after you have inserted the login details and pressed enter. then it loads for a little while and then you will have to push "Play" button to play that account - like really ? Would I enter my password and press enter if I would not like to play the game ? And only after you have pressed the "play" can you pick the "switch account" to login next account as otherwise no client is opened for you.

The login screens have emotional value. It's setting up the mood before logging in to the game and the previous logins screens gives nostalgic feelings about early gaming experiences. For me the logins screens are also feels like bookmarks/reminders how the developement of the game progressed. Logins screens makes us feel like expansions are actually expansions and not just content patches.

I understand that the new launcher makes the login screen unnecessary, but it would be cool to see and hear the login theme at least during the character selection.

After thinking a bit more on it, i am liking my idea posted above: make the character selection screen be like the old login screen!

It's a pity that we can't count on the CSM about this, though. They're doing some Serious Business(TM) and can't be bothered with what the players think on something that Nobody Who Matters deems relevant. We're lucky to have the CSM to rescue us from our Stupid, though.

Please bring it back CCP :( this makes me so sad

It reminds me very much of what happened in Incarna re. "ship spinning".

CCP: you do realize that people who have been here for a long time think of EVE as a kind of second "home", right? There is a certain amount of bonding to the game that comes with familiarity, and a certain subtle sense of tradition. Of course some things can change over time. But other things are fundamental.

For example, new 3-d artwork for an expansion, new music, the sound of "Connecting" - these are fundamental. Triivial, in appearance, to be sure, but psychologically fundamental in the sense of keeping players bonded to the game. These are traditions by now. So we hear that while you can workaround to still get them now, they'll eventually be gone (unsupported - probably to disappear unceremoniously in some later update).

Not saying such things can't ever be changed, but you need to be more tactful about blithely re-arranging peoples' homes.

Well, something is better than nothing... CCP Dolan picked up the idea of the animated/themed character selection screen, apparently: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3074472#post3074472

Can't emphasize this enough. Sentimental value, atmosphere and immersion are immensely important for these kind of games. That's also a reason I hope we never get a Hello Kitty skin for any of the ships or something like that. I'd immediately uninstall and never look back.

The log in screen and music is iconic of Eve Online. It was the great transition between the real world and Eve. It gave you a few moments to collect your thoughts before plunging in to another great adventure.

So many of us watch the old log in screens and remember the good old days. We remember where we were and what we were doing when we logged in and were greeted by those screens and the music. When we visit youtube and watch those old log in screens again it's the purest form of wonderful nostalgia this game can offer.

Sure. You can argue that all it is is nolstagia. A waste of Dev resources and effort. But I think you will have hard time arguing that they added nothing to the game. If fact I think it would be quite easy to find lots of examples of those who love the log in screen and felt it added to Eve. This thread is filled with a significant number of them.

From what I have seen there were always two things that people looked forward to every expansion: the Log in screen/music and the expansion trailer. Those are the two things that people argue about which is the best. That noobs can look up on youtube and get a small glimpse in to the Eve us veterans have played. They remind us of how far we have come the past 10 years.

CCP please take the time to reconsider eliminating the Log in screen and music. To some it may not matter. Yes, it may make things 5 seconds quicker. But there are a lot of us who would dearly miss them and gladly continue to sacrifice 5 seconds every time we log in. They are one of the things that made Eve. Remember: sometimes it's the small things that matter most.

I was at a coffee shop when I fired up the login screen during inferno. Someone came up to me and asked what movie was I watching... you wouldnt get that experience with a plain login.

The old login inspired me to explore the depths of internet space.
It inspired wonder.