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CCP, when eve is getting real PvP?

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Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#1 - 2013-05-22 19:55:03 UTC
It saddens me that I wasted so much time on a game which pretends to be a PvP game, while having no PvP side whatsoever.

Eve "PvP" formula is simple as wood - more SP wins. You have an account created later than 2007-2008? Automatic defeat at every attempt of pvping.

So, my question is, when eve is getting PvP which depends on something other than pure blob of bigger SP?

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#2 - 2013-05-22 19:56:21 UTC
This will end well.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-05-22 19:57:34 UTC
You have a problem with PvPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP?
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#4 - 2013-05-22 19:57:47 UTC
You're wrong.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#5 - 2013-05-22 19:58:36 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
You have a problem with PvPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP?

Yes.
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
You're wrong.

No.

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#6 - 2013-05-22 19:59:32 UTC
it doesn't matter how many skills you got when you are ECM'd, just sayin
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2013-05-22 19:59:55 UTC
30 minutes into EVE and you be the guy who tackles a dreadnought.

One week into EVE and you can be in a logi ship and loved by your freinds.

2 weeks into EVE and you can be the guy who just ganked a hauler with a billion in the hold.

And so on.
Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#8 - 2013-05-22 20:00:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Ager Agemo
Basil Pupkin wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
You have a problem with PvPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP?

Yes.
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
You're wrong.

No.


My month of January proves you are wrong.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=600165&m=1&y=2013


damn I never noticed my ratio of kill deaths its so lame @.@ 50% :( gotta work on fixing it...
Red Wolfstrike
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-05-22 20:00:35 UTC
Basil Pupkin wrote:
It saddens me that I wasted so much time on a game which pretends to be a PvP game, while having no PvP side whatsoever.

Eve "PvP" formula is simple as wood - more SP wins. You have an account created later than 2007-2008? Automatic defeat at every attempt of pvping.

So, my question is, when eve is getting PvP which depends on something other than pure blob of bigger SP?


Try flying condors. My main has 1.2 years of SP and I'm wreaking up 2005 players with them.
Hernan Johuihen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-05-22 20:01:55 UTC
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-05-22 20:02:36 UTC
Basil Pupkin wrote:
It saddens me that I wasted so much time on a game which pretends to be a PvP game, while having no PvP side whatsoever.

Eve "PvP" formula is simple as wood - more SP wins. You have an account created later than 2007-2008? Automatic defeat at every attempt of pvping.

So, my question is, when eve is getting PvP which depends on something other than pure blob of bigger SP?



Miners with 30mil SP dying to 1 week old catalyst pilots beg to differ,

This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate.
Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#12 - 2013-05-22 20:02:40 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
30 minutes into EVE and you be the guy who tackles a dreadnought.

And dies to his friends, proving my point.

baltec1 wrote:
One week into EVE and you can be in a logi ship and loved by your freinds.

Unless you mean T1 logi who's so laughable that nobody shoots him, no.

baltec1 wrote:
2 weeks into EVE and you can be the guy who just ganked a hauler with a billion in the hold.

Hauler would have ~2 hours to get some help against 2 weeks old.

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
floating in space
#13 - 2013-05-22 20:03:51 UTC
Good post OP but needs something like "clicking on boxes takes no skill" and maybe "eve PVP is like playing tic-tac -toe with an enraged nerd"
Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#14 - 2013-05-22 20:04:02 UTC
Ager Agemo wrote:
Basil Pupkin wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
You have a problem with PvPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP?

Yes.
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
You're wrong.

No.


My month of January proves you are wrong.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=600165&m=1&y=2013


damn I never noticed my ratio of kill deaths its so lame @.@ 50% :( gotta work on fixing it...


Killing maks in a fleet of 7 people, really, how does it make me wrong?

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#15 - 2013-05-22 20:04:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Basil Pupkin wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
You're wrong.

No.
Yes you are, more SP != win in PvP, it = more choice of ships to PvP in, for example player x has 100 million SP spread all over the place but only 5 million in frigates, player Y has only 5 million SP in frigates and that's all he can fly , if they're both in identical ships with identical fits then there is a 50/50 chance that player Y can beat player X, because 95 million of player Xs SP are completely irrelevant to the ship he's flying.
HTFU

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#16 - 2013-05-22 20:04:55 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
Basil Pupkin wrote:
It saddens me that I wasted so much time on a game which pretends to be a PvP game, while having no PvP side whatsoever.

Eve "PvP" formula is simple as wood - more SP wins. You have an account created later than 2007-2008? Automatic defeat at every attempt of pvping.

So, my question is, when eve is getting PvP which depends on something other than pure blob of bigger SP?



Miners with 30mil SP dying to 1 week old catalyst pilots beg to differ,


No pvp sp against some pvp sp. Not an exception to "more SP wins" formula.

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
floating in space
#17 - 2013-05-22 20:05:05 UTC
also, remove killboards
Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#18 - 2013-05-22 20:06:25 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Basil Pupkin wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
You're wrong.

No.
Yes you are, more SP != win in PvP, it = more choice of ships to PvP in, for example player x has 100 million SP spread all over the place but only 5 million in frigates, player Y has only 5 million SP in frigates , if they're both in identical ships with identical fits then there is a 50/50 chance that player Y can beat player X, because 95 million of player Xs SP are completely irrelevant to the ship he's flying.
HTFU


More SP = better ships = win. They won't be in identical ships. Never.

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
Onomerous
Caldari Black Hand
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#19 - 2013-05-22 20:06:38 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
This will end well.


Dang... I agree with Jenn
Aida Nu
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-05-22 20:06:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Aida Nu
Whats the name of your main? So we can check out the loss that made you come here and cry?

Or are you still mad about this one?
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11134460
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