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So you think you are immortal?
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#1 - 2013-05-22 17:09:09 UTC
Enough said.

It is not like this is new to anyone with half a brain, but once again, we are reminded: capsuleers die.

I want you to think about that. And if you feel like going "but", think about it some more.

You are not immortal.

Elsebeth
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-05-22 17:13:09 UTC
Oh, but you are mistaken.

Admiral Yanala is a hero, and heroes never truly die.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#3 - 2013-05-22 17:13:16 UTC
We are considerably less mortal than mortals.

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-05-22 17:14:36 UTC
I am personally looking forward to the inevitable poetry, no doubt constructed by a wordsmith more talented than I, to arise from the self-sacrifice of an "immortal" to save "mortals."

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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chaosjj
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-05-22 17:20:52 UTC
The direct meaning of the word "immortality" is: The ability to live forever. ability being the key word, we most certainly have the ability to live forever, but that is by no definition a garuantee that we will.
Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#6 - 2013-05-22 17:33:05 UTC
Aww, I was expecting a new game show.
chaosjj
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-05-22 17:37:33 UTC  |  Edited by: chaosjj
Karmilla Strife wrote:
Aww, I was expecting a new game show.


excellent idea! i'm selling that to Impetus Corporation!

i'm envisioning a large stage, surounded by thousands of people, where several pods are located, BUT! one pod is fake! then, a quize starts. at the end of the quize the participants can choose one of the pods ( the one who won the quize round automaticaly continues to the next round, where the others get in the capsules, then every one of them get podded, and because one pod was fake, one person won't transfer to a new clone, starting all over agian until one person remains.

Would be a nice show to watch during the long, cosy hours on stations on Friday evening.
Cipher Deninard
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-05-22 18:07:16 UTC
When your capsule gets hit there is always the chance of death. However that is often a very small chance. Being truly immortal would make us Gods, in reality we are more Demigods. Still far above the capabilities of the average human at any rate.
Cipher7
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-05-22 18:13:37 UTC

There is also the interesting idea that every clone is its own person, merely implanted with memories of another.

I don't know.

I don't consider myself "immortal" but maybe my clone will.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#10 - 2013-05-22 19:03:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jinari Otsito
Eh, close enough that it makes little difference. Where mudders have the average lifespan of a snowball in the heart of a sun, we just activate the thermal hardeners and tan a bit. Immortal? Close enough, and compared to the alternative I can't think of anything more resembling gods.

That's not even mentioning the softclones and all manner of nice little backups the more prudent among us maintain.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#11 - 2013-05-22 19:07:40 UTC
I do wonder about brain plasticity and aging with capsuleers. Consider, if you will, that clone bodies likely also suffer biological senescence, with the resulting loss of brain plasticity and neural degradation. A person who remains in a clone long enough to suffer this stage of senescence would likely have their 'elderly' or possibly even 'senile' personality transcribed onto a new clone. What effect would a new brain have on a senile mind-state?

I strongly suspect that given the decades and centuries to come, we'll have a rather new and strange set of psychological syndromes appear.

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Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#12 - 2013-05-22 20:10:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Caellach Marellus
We'll statistically with the odds in our favour live far longer than any human has the right to.

Come to the breaking point, at my guess in a few centuries from now, some of us will just cancel our contracts.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2013-05-22 23:50:36 UTC
Huh, I agree with Elsebeth about something. Something is seriously wrong with the universe for that to happen.

Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade

Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family
Nicolas Merovech
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-05-23 00:38:53 UTC
"Immortal" is such an interesting and amusing term. Everything in this universe is transient, eternity does not exist.

Dr. Nicolas A. Merovech, Ph. D, M.D.
Katarina Musana
Clan Leshya Offworld Venture Enterprise
#15 - 2013-05-23 00:43:25 UTC
There are two types of immortal. There are those who never truly die and those who must be shown how to die. We are the latter. Our lifespans are indefinite. There is no reason for us to die of "natural causes." But it is possible for us to be shown how to die.
Sepherim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-05-23 01:36:56 UTC
I too agree with captain Rhiannon, we are far from inmortality. We've only existed for some amount of years now, we don't know what kind of problems may arise from long-term existing minds, captain Priano mentioned one example from an indefinite number. Or what might possible with the technology and the cloning stations, or whatever.

We may be more resilient than the average human, live longer lifespans and have better insurances, but we're still far from inmortals.

Sepherim Catillah Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Liuteneant Ex-Imperial Navy Imperator Commander
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#17 - 2013-05-23 02:15:53 UTC
We are certainly not immortal. Not by any stretch of the word.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#18 - 2013-05-23 02:33:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
Enough said.

It is not like this is new to anyone with half a brain, but once again, we are reminded: capsuleers die.

I want you to think about that. And if you feel like going "but", think about it some more.

You are not immortal.

Elsebeth


Is this some sort of childish 'payback' for people not showing proper respect for the loss of Midular? Or is it that you honestly cannot see how disrespectful it is to post something like that?

I am wholly disappointed in you.

Katrina Oniseki
Kim Ji-Young
Ji Young Kim Bap
#19 - 2013-05-23 03:11:34 UTC
I'm told that one of the corps that recruits straight out of RIN has a capsuleer initiation where they sneak into the medbay, turn off your clone, then make you go out mining in an Impairor with only a mining laser fitted and nothing else and then they take potshots at you and shoot your armour off. If you can gather a full hold of veldspar without docking or ejecting you're in. That story could be crap to scare the new recruits after all it's just a rumour but it does demonstrate that mortality for capsuleers is a meaningful thing that exists.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#20 - 2013-05-23 03:32:21 UTC
We're quasi-immortal, not "fully" immortal.

All it would take to remove the "im-" from that term in a most in-opportune way would be a clone tech still being a bit under the weather from booze-itis on Monday at the right moment.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
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