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Incursion griefing getting kicked into high gear

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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#101 - 2011-11-04 09:07:46 UTC
Incursion runners are horrible people (not quite as bad as roleplayers but close). Thank you for hassling them.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#102 - 2011-11-04 11:40:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Ammzi
Psychotic Monk wrote:


The incursionbears themselves have been great hosts. They commonly announce our presence to each other, while making furtive superstitious hand gestures to ward us off, like we were some kind of evil spirits. At the same time, they've continued to feed us a steady supply of kills, the kills were often in Machs and Nightmares. We've even gotten to watch their perception of us develop over that time. On the first day they thought we were all Slimy Worm's alts. By the third day they were claiming we had been black-listed for the better part of a year. On the fifth day someone say a Velator wreck in an OTA and announced that we had 'can flagged' that incursion and nobody should enter.

Our impact has been such that they feel like they've been persecuted for weeks or even monthes and are flat out telling each other ghost stories about us.


Lol, talk about propaganda and biased stories.
Your silver tongue makes me wanna puke Psychotic, you've gotta do better than that.
Your measly 60 billion isk in kills over the course of 6 days is re-generated in 2-3 hours in incursions.

The only thing you are managing to do is bounding incursion runners together and reinforcing their hatred and suspicion against petty griefers.
How does it feel? That no matter what you do it is easily redone and the footprint you've put in the sand is quickly erased by the wind.
You are nothing and you shall remain nothing, but a bug squashed beneath our feet.
I laugh at you sir and I pity you.
Dek'athor
Doomheim
#103 - 2011-11-04 13:02:18 UTC
Ummm

Honest question guise, where are these guise when I'm bearing it out in incursions for 4-5 hrs daily ? If I didn't happen to read the forums I'd have never known any of it

Nothin in BTL except some Motd about some war, nothing in the 'other' (invite-only) shield incursion channel me and oooh, 150+ or so people frequent.

Where the heck are the incursion gankers and why aren't they more active ... ?













Don't tell me they 'stalk' local and the CCP incursion channels ... hahahahahahahahaha if that's the case.
Gazmin VanBurin
Boma Bull Corp
#104 - 2011-11-04 15:19:22 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
Psychotic Monk wrote:


The incursionbears themselves have been great hosts. They commonly announce our presence to each other, while making furtive superstitious hand gestures to ward us off, like we were some kind of evil spirits. At the same time, they've continued to feed us a steady supply of kills, the kills were often in Machs and Nightmares. We've even gotten to watch their perception of us develop over that time. On the first day they thought we were all Slimy Worm's alts. By the third day they were claiming we had been black-listed for the better part of a year. On the fifth day someone say a Velator wreck in an OTA and announced that we had 'can flagged' that incursion and nobody should enter.

Our impact has been such that they feel like they've been persecuted for weeks or even monthes and are flat out telling each other ghost stories about us.


Lol, talk about propaganda and biased stories.
Your silver tongue makes me wanna puke Psychotic, you've gotta do better than that.
Your measly 60 billion isk in kills over the course of 6 days is re-generated in 2-3 hours in incursions.

The only thing you are managing to do is bounding incursion runners together and reinforcing their hatred and suspicion against petty griefers.
How does it feel? That no matter what you do it is easily redone and the footprint you've put in the sand is quickly erased by the wind.
You are nothing and you shall remain nothing, but a bug squashed beneath our feet.
I laugh at you sir and I pity you.


So your saying your making enough isk to build a giant space conveyer belt, and enough isk to keep placing faction fit BS on it, and it will keep dumping these said ships onto our kill board? ... well then carry on good sir
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#105 - 2011-11-04 15:30:12 UTC
Ships easily gained are not roughly lost.

If it takes a month to save up for some kind of fancy ship, and it gets popped, that's hard.

If it takes a few hours of "work" to replace it, that's easy. So the end product is what? Either some ISK or a ship in a hangar, or a killboard entry. Does that change the game for anybody? Griefers will grief, incursion runners will run incursions. I don't suppose the ISK will pay the rent, nor will the killmails be included on a resume.


It's like the Special Olympics.

Both sides in this issue are riding the same short bus home, regardless of which one wins.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Vanessa Hotkiss
Doomheim
#106 - 2011-11-04 18:42:21 UTC
killz ze sansha
Gruben Schloppen
carmelos53
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2011-11-04 20:31:54 UTC
Just want to add my 10 cents here.

You still only killed 2 armor pilots in our channel so keep talking.. U might one day actually believed what you are saying.

Hope you like the pos we killed from your alt Corp. Also when we break even for the 212 mil remaining yes the decs might drop if we feel like it but people havnt pvped for 2 weeks now so maybe when you guys decide to fight that might happen.

Anyways enjoy killing people in incursion local and "pvping" 1vs10 because can flips seems to be the only thing you guys do well.

Still have that 200mil pride bet going on. Only Two more days until it's over.

Best of luck. Enjoy high sec you will be there for awhile. Bye :)
PlayerName
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#108 - 2011-11-04 21:44:20 UTC  |  Edited by: PlayerName
carmelos53 wrote:

Hope you like the pos we killed from your alt Corp. Also when we break even for the 212 mil remaining yes the decs might drop if we feel like it but people havnt pvped for 2 weeks now so maybe when you guys decide to fight that might happen.


I was unaware of a POS loss. I know you reinforced 2 of our towers, but no towers have been lost as of yet.

Also, slice it however you'd like, the point is we've still killed 60+ billion (and climbing) in incursionbears. It's true that most of our kills have been shield oriented and from BTL, but TDF will get it's turn soon enough.
Moustached Slimy Worm
Go Petition Blizzard
Safety.
#109 - 2011-11-04 21:58:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Moustached Slimy Worm
carmelos53 wrote:
Just want to add my 10 cents here.

You still only killed 2 armor pilots in our channel so keep talking.. U might one day actually believed what you are saying.

Hope you like the pos we killed from your alt Corp. Also when we break even for the 212 mil remaining yes the decs might drop if we feel like it but people havnt pvped for 2 weeks now so maybe when you guys decide to fight that might happen.

Anyways enjoy killing people in incursion local and "pvping" 1vs10 because can flips seems to be the only thing you guys do well.

Still have that 200mil pride bet going on. Only Two more days until it's over.

Best of luck. Enjoy high sec you will be there for awhile. Bye :)


wait we decced the wrong incursion channel? i thought you were a BTLbear!?!?

EDIT: Did you REALLY go through every single kill just to see which ones were armor incursioners?
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#110 - 2011-11-04 22:31:57 UTC
PlayerName wrote:
carmelos53 wrote:

Hope you like the pos we killed from your alt Corp. Also when we break even for the 212 mil remaining yes the decs might drop if we feel like it but people havnt pvped for 2 weeks now so maybe when you guys decide to fight that might happen.


I was unaware of a POS loss. I know you reinforced 2 of our towers, but no towers have been lost as of yet.

Also, slice it however you'd like, the point is we've still killed 60+ billion (and climbing) in incursionbears. It's true that most of our kills have been shield oriented and from BTL, but TDF will get it's turn soon enough.


No, he got the POS we use to sometimes build a thing in when nobody else is online. Twenty odd-dudes spent an entire day shooting at the POS that we just threw a bunch of hardeners on and didn't even care enough to defend. And also the offline one the next moon over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLezXLuvNgc

And then, when we scraped the dec off, someone spent a bunch of hours shooting a reinforced tower in order to keep agression on it.

I know you're probably distraught, Player. I know I am. Both of my Artbirator BPOs and six data cores were in there. And I'll have to spend another 20m to buy a corp with standings next time I want to fiddle around with industrial stuff. That's, like, two Republic Fleet Gyros that these guys keep leaving in their wrecks.

I will try to be gracious in defeat, though. Congrats, Ammzi, on crushing the half a pot plant we had in the little flower box on the back deck of the Skunkworks club house.
Gazmin VanBurin
Boma Bull Corp
#111 - 2011-11-04 23:03:48 UTC
Not to pee in your cheerios but no one cares much about the armor channel or its ships. Everyone knows that shield fleets are better, faster, fit shinyer stuff, and most ships that could fit armor like megas and Apocs are shield fit anyway.

but yeah we will get to you lol
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#112 - 2011-11-04 23:18:10 UTC
Ammzi wrote:


Lol, talk about propaganda and biased stories.
Your silver tongue makes me wanna puke Psychotic, you've gotta do better than that.
Your measly 60 billion isk in kills over the course of 6 days is re-generated in 2-3 hours in incursions.

The only thing you are managing to do is bounding incursion runners together and reinforcing their hatred and suspicion against petty griefers.
How does it feel? That no matter what you do it is easily redone and the footprint you've put in the sand is quickly erased by the wind.
You are nothing and you shall remain nothing, but a bug squashed beneath our feet.
I laugh at you sir and I pity you.


I'm not usually one to fall back on a meme for a retort, but in this care it's stimply the best option. Look at how mad this guy is. It's like he's a cartoon who's head has become a tea pot, all red-faced and bug-eyed and with steam pouring out of his ears. I'm seriously concerned for his heart. The fact is, if he really felt that we were nothing, he wouldn't have spent 36 or more hours shooting the only thing he could reach, which is the hobby-horse POS mentioned above.

Dek'athor wrote:
Ummm

Honest question guise, where are these guise when I'm bearing it out in incursions for 4-5 hrs daily ? If I didn't happen to read the forums I'd have never known any of it

Nothin in BTL except some Motd about some war, nothing in the 'other' (invite-only) shield incursion channel me and oooh, 150+ or so people frequent.

Where the heck are the incursion gankers and why aren't they more active ... ?


This guy totally has a point. The excuse I'll have to point to is our chilling inability to fill a second squad. We'll be contacting some like-minded organizations shortly so we can grab one or two of their guys and we can show them all we've learned about killing incursion bears and they can take that knowledge back to their people and spread it. Hopefully that should help some of the proliferation problems we're having. Dek, I promise that I will try to make sure that more violence gets visted upon more boats.

As for the invite-only channels: good. Fine. I'm totally cool with the fact that they've found the right hoop to jump through to make their incursioning safer. That doesn't mean we won't get them, too, but it does mean that they've had to put more effort into what they're doing. You'll recall that my arguement against incursions isn't that it pays too well. Plenty of things pay as well as incursions do. The difference is that those other things require much more effort and have much more risk. If we've caused incursion bears to have to try and stay one step ahead of us to not get ganked, then my mission in that respect is accomplished.

Also, I'd like to state once more for the record that this is shitloads of fun. We're really enjoying ourselves.

rareden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#113 - 2011-11-04 23:31:35 UTC  |  Edited by: rareden
carmelos53 wrote:
Just want to add my 10 cents here.

You still only killed 2 armor pilots in our channel so keep talking.. U might one day actually believed what you are saying.

Hope you like the pos we killed from your alt Corp. Also when we break even for the 212 mil remaining yes the decs might drop if we feel like it but people havnt pvped for 2 weeks now so maybe when you guys decide to fight that might happen.

Anyways enjoy killing people in incursion local and "pvping" 1vs10 because can flips seems to be the only thing you guys do well.

Still have that 200mil pride bet going on. Only Two more days until it's over.

Best of luck. Enjoy high sec you will be there for awhile. Bye :)


lols burning spear, so your smacking the people who just got 60bill of carebear ships, so let me link a couple of your loss mails just to see how bad your ship fits are
http://burning.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=67
eh hurm....... just... why..
your best pilot and he flys that....
http://burning.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=80

so my reply to you, bring on the wars scrubs, who actually cares about a pos why would you spend 10hrs shooting a pos.....
carmelos53
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#114 - 2011-11-04 23:44:54 UTC
LOL not aware of a pos kill? 1 offline pos was killed and we just finished off the active large. An eye for an eye. thanks champs. Nice try with the alliance hoping to invalidate the wars too. Unfortunately there are ways around it.

Not really wanting to play the tough guy card here but now we are even. Have fun killing randomy pilots who can't defend themselves.
The pos kills definately cover our 2 loses.


No hard feelings.
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#115 - 2011-11-04 23:48:39 UTC
carmelos53 wrote:
LOL not aware of a pos kill? 1 offline pos was killed and we just finished off the active large. An eye for an eye. thanks champs. Nice try with the alliance hoping to invalidate the wars too. Unfortunately there are ways around it.

Not really wanting to play the tough guy card here but now we are even. Have fun killing randomy pilots who can't defend themselves.
The pos kills definately cover our 2 loses.


No hard feelings.


Cool.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#116 - 2011-11-04 23:50:07 UTC
rareden wrote:
http://burning.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=80

If it's a PVP fit, it sucks. If it's a sleeper PVE fit, it also sucks.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#117 - 2011-11-04 23:54:20 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
Psychotic Monk wrote:


The incursionbears themselves have been great hosts. They commonly announce our presence to each other, while making furtive superstitious hand gestures to ward us off, like we were some kind of evil spirits. At the same time, they've continued to feed us a steady supply of kills, the kills were often in Machs and Nightmares. We've even gotten to watch their perception of us develop over that time. On the first day they thought we were all Slimy Worm's alts. By the third day they were claiming we had been black-listed for the better part of a year. On the fifth day someone say a Velator wreck in an OTA and announced that we had 'can flagged' that incursion and nobody should enter.

Our impact has been such that they feel like they've been persecuted for weeks or even monthes and are flat out telling each other ghost stories about us.


Lol, talk about propaganda and biased stories.
Your silver tongue makes me wanna puke Psychotic, you've gotta do better than that.
Your measly 60 billion isk in kills over the course of 6 days is re-generated in 2-3 hours in incursions.

The only thing you are managing to do is bounding incursion runners together and reinforcing their hatred and suspicion against petty griefers.
How does it feel? That no matter what you do it is easily redone and the footprint you've put in the sand is quickly erased by the wind.
You are nothing and you shall remain nothing, but a bug squashed beneath our feet.
I laugh at you sir and I pity you.


So much idiocy, I literally have no idea where to start on a retort.

Firstly, you seem to think your incursion channels are an alliance, in which all members are flying under a reimbursement policy that includes any fit they fly. I say that, because apparently you're quoting the net income from all of the incursion runners in your fantasy "we didn't want those faction fit battleships anyway" tirade. When someone loses a 4bil fit, it takes THEM AS AN INDIVIDUAL a lot more than "2-3 hours" to work that back. Try 25+ hours.

It's also quite hilarious to see how mad you are.

I've never met a worse breed of player of any game, at any point, than I have met in the Incursion channels. Ammzi is pretty much the posterchild for the basement dwelling elite who grind these things every ******* second they are logged in.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2011-11-04 23:59:46 UTC
blah blah high sec bull ****
Odemis
Death By Design
#119 - 2011-11-05 00:53:20 UTC
Killstealing wrote:
blah blah high sec bull ****


Look at me!!! There are different numbers in the upper left hand corner of my monitor... trolololol
rareden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#120 - 2011-11-05 00:54:34 UTC  |  Edited by: rareden
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
rareden wrote:
http://burning.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=80

If it's a PVP fit, it sucks. If it's a sleeper PVE fit, it also sucks.


indeed it is a pvp fit and yes it sucks

zomg what the hell
http://burning.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=99
medium shield booster raven best raven??

TROLOLOL!!
http://burning.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=95