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CCP, what did you do? Recent "patch" has made my CPU run VERY hot!

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MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#1 - 2013-05-22 02:09:45 UTC
Right before server shut down, I was able to keep open 6 windows, and my CPU would be run around 45-50c
Up until just now I have been running 2-3 windows, and didn't nothing anything out of the ordinary, up until my PC slowed the hell down once I jumped the window count to 6, I opened up Core Temp and saw the reason why, my CPU was running at 93-97c!!

ALL my settings in game are on lowest they can be or disabled, because hey, Either I am mining, trading in the stations, or chatting with the locals, and I don't need the bells and whistles.
What I want to know is what did you guys do that would cause a i7 3770 to explode in heat?

Ambient temp is 18-22c, the case has a dedicated CPU heat exhaust port and fan, the GPU also has a dedicated exhaust port and fan from both on the card slot and case window, as well as a large rear care fan to draw air from the front of the case over the cpu heatsink fins, the rear of the GPU card, and out the rear exhaust port.

Once I close the windows the temps quickly go back to normal temps. ONLY the CPU is affected. the GPU stays at its normal temp range of 25c-35c under full load (GTX 550Ti)
The picture
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/micdeath/hightemp_zps332295a7.png
Rose Hips
Zero Dot Zero
#2 - 2013-05-22 02:11:12 UTC
The logs show nothing... oh wait

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#3 - 2013-05-22 02:17:27 UTC
Kill any launcher.exe services that are running in the background. If you just close the launcher, it can leave behind 2 or more versions of launcher.exe running.


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xarjin
Galactic Deep Space Industries
Brave Collective
#4 - 2013-05-22 02:17:46 UTC  |  Edited by: xarjin
MicDeath Titan wrote:
Right before server shut down, I was able to keep open 6 windows, and my CPU would be run around 45-50c
Up until just now I have been running 2-3 windows, and didn't nothing anything out of the ordinary, up until my PC slowed the hell down once I jumped the window count to 6, I opened up Core Temp and saw the reason why, my CPU was running at 93-97c!!

The picture
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/micdeath/hightemp_zps332295a7.png


Trying to make sence of that screenshot in 1024x576 resolution on a 24" 1080p display with the sight of that spreadsheet in the background overheated my corneas Shocked

Also I don't see an eve client running unless it's pinned to the taskbar?
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#5 - 2013-05-22 02:20:36 UTC
Your settings may have reset, try restarting the client and the launcher to restore your old settings.

If that doesn't work turn on vsync which will cap the the framerate by setting interval 1 so that EVE doesn't use up 100% GPU.
MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#6 - 2013-05-22 02:22:27 UTC  |  Edited by: MicDeath Titan
xarjin wrote:
MicDeath Titan wrote:
Right before server shut down, I was able to keep open 6 windows, and my CPU would be run around 45-50c
Up until just now I have been running 2-3 windows, and didn't nothing anything out of the ordinary, up until my PC slowed the hell down once I jumped the window count to 6, I opened up Core Temp and saw the reason why, my CPU was running at 93-97c!!

The picture
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/micdeath/hightemp_zps332295a7.png


Trying to make sence of that screenshot in 1024x576 resolution on a 24" 1080p display with the sight of that spreadsheet in the background overheated my corneas Shocked

Also I don't see an eve client running unless it's pinned to the taskbar?

Just look at the core temp window, and look where it says min, and max. The min is the coolest the cpu has gotten, and the max is the hottest the CPU has gotten. The picture was taken when all clients were closed. I'll make a new one showing the temp with 6 windows, just give me a sec.

EDIT:
Here is the pic:
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/micdeath/hightemp2_zps110420be.png
Little cooler now, and no so much in the danger zone, still extremely high!
Dub Step
Death To Everyone But Us
#7 - 2013-05-22 02:24:20 UTC
Since you used photobucket I cant comment on the screenshot but CCP always **** up stability with their new patches. The semi-good news is they sometimes fix this in later patches.

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xarjin
Galactic Deep Space Industries
Brave Collective
#8 - 2013-05-22 02:28:33 UTC
MicDeath Titan wrote:
xarjin wrote:
MicDeath Titan wrote:
Right before server shut down, I was able to keep open 6 windows, and my CPU would be run around 45-50c
Up until just now I have been running 2-3 windows, and didn't nothing anything out of the ordinary, up until my PC slowed the hell down once I jumped the window count to 6, I opened up Core Temp and saw the reason why, my CPU was running at 93-97c!!

The picture
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/micdeath/hightemp_zps332295a7.png


Trying to make sence of that screenshot in 1024x576 resolution on a 24" 1080p display with the sight of that spreadsheet in the background overheated my corneas Shocked

Also I don't see an eve client running unless it's pinned to the taskbar?

Just look at the core temp window, and look where it says min, and max. The min is the coolest the cpu has gotten, and the max is the hottest the CPU has gotten. The picture was taken when all clients were closed. I'll make a new one showing the temp with 6 windows, just give me a sec.


ah i see the 95C temp spike in coretemp now. only took me 10 minutes. I'm a computer network engineer (fancy words for overpaid PC technician) If your gaming on a notebook you may have a big problem with your computer hardware needing maintenance.

If you are still using the default factory cpu cooler you should really consider buying a more capable replacement such as the Noctua NH-D14. Intel's factory cpu coolers have really poor heat saturation problems.

I wrote up a review of this cooler a couple years ago on a gaming forum I frequent.

http://multiboxing.com/forums/f30/noctua-nh-d14-review-4356.html
ashley Eoner
#9 - 2013-05-22 02:33:03 UTC  |  Edited by: ashley Eoner
MicDeath Titan wrote:
Right before server shut down, I was able to keep open 6 windows, and my CPU would be run around 45-50c
Up until just now I have been running 2-3 windows, and didn't nothing anything out of the ordinary, up until my PC slowed the hell down once I jumped the window count to 6, I opened up Core Temp and saw the reason why, my CPU was running at 93-97c!!

ALL my settings in game are on lowest they can be or disabled, because hey, Either I am mining, trading in the stations, or chatting with the locals, and I don't need the bells and whistles.
What I want to know is what did you guys do that would cause a i7 3770 to explode in heat?

Ambient temp is 18-22c, the case has a dedicated CPU heat exhaust port and fan, the GPU also has a dedicated exhaust port and fan from both on the card slot and case window, as well as a large rear care fan to draw air from the front of the case over the cpu heatsink fins, the rear of the GPU card, and out the rear exhaust port.

Once I close the windows the temps quickly go back to normal temps. ONLY the CPU is affected. the GPU stays at its normal temp range of 25c-35c under full load (GTX 550Ti)
The picture
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/micdeath/hightemp_zps332295a7.png
If you're running 97c then you've got a major problem in your cooling or coretemp is reading wrong. Eve doesn't magically make chips run hotter as heat is determined by utilization. Eve cannot go beyond 100% usage and your CPU should be well cooled enough to handle 100% utilization for well forever.

I prime95 every machine I make for at least 4 hours (usually 24) to ensure my cooling is up to the task.

I ran four clients fine with CQ on my OCed e7200 (oced 1600mhz fsb and 3.3ghz cpu) Temps stayed below 60c. My laptop with an i7 3632qm ran four clients fine for about an hour each. Temps on the laptop never topped 65c which isn't a surprise as I've prime95ed it too and the temps stayed well below 70c (dell 7520).


Your CPU should shut down at 100c and start throttling before that.
MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#10 - 2013-05-22 02:43:54 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:
MicDeath Titan wrote:
Right before server shut down, I was able to keep open 6 windows, and my CPU would be run around 45-50c
Up until just now I have been running 2-3 windows, and didn't nothing anything out of the ordinary, up until my PC slowed the hell down once I jumped the window count to 6, I opened up Core Temp and saw the reason why, my CPU was running at 93-97c!!

ALL my settings in game are on lowest they can be or disabled, because hey, Either I am mining, trading in the stations, or chatting with the locals, and I don't need the bells and whistles.
What I want to know is what did you guys do that would cause a i7 3770 to explode in heat?

Ambient temp is 18-22c, the case has a dedicated CPU heat exhaust port and fan, the GPU also has a dedicated exhaust port and fan from both on the card slot and case window, as well as a large rear care fan to draw air from the front of the case over the cpu heatsink fins, the rear of the GPU card, and out the rear exhaust port.

Once I close the windows the temps quickly go back to normal temps. ONLY the CPU is affected. the GPU stays at its normal temp range of 25c-35c under full load (GTX 550Ti)
The picture
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/micdeath/hightemp_zps332295a7.png
If you're running 97c then you've got a major problem in your cooling or coretemp is reading wrong. Eve doesn't magically make chips run hotter as heat is determined by utilization. Eve cannot go beyond 100% usage and your CPU should be well cooled enough to handle 100% utilization for well forever.

I prime95 every machine I make for at least 4 hours (usually 24) to ensure my cooling is up to the task.

I ran four clients fine with CQ on my OCed e7200 (oced 1600mhz fsb and 3.3ghz cpu) Temps stayed below 60c. My laptop with an i7 3632qm ran four clients fine for about an hour each. Temps on the laptop never topped 65c which isn't a surprise as I've prime95ed it too and the temps stayed well below 70c (dell 7520).


Your CPU should shut down at 100c and start throttling before that.

See that is the weird thing, this game doesn't come close to 100% use the of the CPU.
I changed nothing hardware wise, and the rig has been very cool up until the recent "patch", and right before it, it was doing just fine. Even during the stress test I gave it it ran pretty cool when I first installed it. I dunno, I am going to crack open the case and do a clean out and reapply the paste, just in-case.

Also, here is the new pic, which I also edited up on earlier post.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/micdeath/hightemp2_zps110420be.png
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-05-22 02:45:35 UTC
Your PC is rebelling against the poor choice of image hosting website.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#12 - 2013-05-22 02:49:30 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Your PC is rebelling against the poor choice of image hosting website.

Got a suggestions? I am open to new hosting sites.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#13 - 2013-05-22 02:53:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
MicDeath Titan wrote:
ashley Eoner wrote:
MicDeath Titan wrote:
Right before server shut down, I was able to keep open 6 windows, and my CPU would be run around 45-50c
Up until just now I have been running 2-3 windows, and didn't nothing anything out of the ordinary, up until my PC slowed the hell down once I jumped the window count to 6, I opened up Core Temp and saw the reason why, my CPU was running at 93-97c!!

ALL my settings in game are on lowest they can be or disabled, because hey, Either I am mining, trading in the stations, or chatting with the locals, and I don't need the bells and whistles.
What I want to know is what did you guys do that would cause a i7 3770 to explode in heat?

Ambient temp is 18-22c, the case has a dedicated CPU heat exhaust port and fan, the GPU also has a dedicated exhaust port and fan from both on the card slot and case window, as well as a large rear care fan to draw air from the front of the case over the cpu heatsink fins, the rear of the GPU card, and out the rear exhaust port.

Once I close the windows the temps quickly go back to normal temps. ONLY the CPU is affected. the GPU stays at its normal temp range of 25c-35c under full load (GTX 550Ti)
The picture
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/micdeath/hightemp_zps332295a7.png
If you're running 97c then you've got a major problem in your cooling or coretemp is reading wrong. Eve doesn't magically make chips run hotter as heat is determined by utilization. Eve cannot go beyond 100% usage and your CPU should be well cooled enough to handle 100% utilization for well forever.

I prime95 every machine I make for at least 4 hours (usually 24) to ensure my cooling is up to the task.

I ran four clients fine with CQ on my OCed e7200 (oced 1600mhz fsb and 3.3ghz cpu) Temps stayed below 60c. My laptop with an i7 3632qm ran four clients fine for about an hour each. Temps on the laptop never topped 65c which isn't a surprise as I've prime95ed it too and the temps stayed well below 70c (dell 7520).


Your CPU should shut down at 100c and start throttling before that.

See that is the weird thing, this game doesn't come close to 100% use the of the CPU.
I changed nothing hardware wise, and the rig has been very cool up until the recent "patch", and right before it, it was doing just fine. Even during the stress test I gave it it ran pretty cool when I first installed it. I dunno, I am going to crack open the case and do a clean out and reapply the paste, just in-case.

Also, here is the new pic, which I also edited up on earlier post.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/micdeath/hightemp2_zps110420be.png


Have you done the obvious and checked that everything designed to shed heat is clean, unblocked and your fans/cooling is all working? I've assumed mine was working 100% before only to find out (eventually) I had fuzz in my case screens and a my main exhaust fan was only running at 1/2 speed.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
#14 - 2013-05-22 03:56:37 UTC
Have you done the extra obvious and restarted the launcher? All your settings, including graphics settings should be screwed up otherwise.
Ryu Ibarazaki
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-05-22 04:05:23 UTC
Hmm that's interesting. I had a fan on my laptop rev up much faster than usual while playing EVE after today's patch as well. I figured it was an odd fluke but now I'm not sure.
Leemi Sobo
#16 - 2013-05-22 05:09:58 UTC
MicDeath Titan wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Your PC is rebelling against the poor choice of image hosting website.

Got a suggestions? I am open to new hosting sites.


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MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#17 - 2013-05-22 07:01:08 UTC
Well I managed to bring down the temp somewhat.
I down clocked the CPU a bit, and have a much cooler ambient temp. (10c)
The temp is hovering around 65c-71c with 10 windows open.
Still haven't cleaned out the case nor re-did the thermal paste, have to go into town to get some supplies before I do so.

Gotta say, playing EVE while it is running on virtual memory is an experience I haven't had in many years, kinda nostalgic really.
Gotta buy more ram. 8GB just isn't cutting it anymore.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-05-22 07:07:34 UTC
my good ol' Q6600 is still running at the normal temps it usually does when running EVE.



...maybe something made it spike that it's not related to EVE?

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ashley Eoner
#19 - 2013-05-22 07:23:41 UTC  |  Edited by: ashley Eoner
MicDeath Titan wrote:
Well I managed to bring down the temp somewhat.
I down clocked the CPU a bit, and have a much cooler ambient temp. (10c)
The temp is hovering around 65c-71c with 10 windows open.
Still haven't cleaned out the case nor re-did the thermal paste, have to go into town to get some supplies before I do so.

Gotta say, playing EVE while it is running on virtual memory is an experience I haven't had in many years, kinda nostalgic really.
Gotta buy more ram. 8GB just isn't cutting it anymore.
I give all my electronics a good cleaning at least once a month. I ended up buying an air compressor with a water trap and I use it at about 100 PSI. Just got to be careful on the fans cause you can spin/burn a bearing by over revving the blades. I bust out the qtips and >91% alcohol to clean individual fan blades... yeah OCD..

I know it sounds silly but make sure to confirm that all fans are working properly (including CPU at 100% speed).


Ryu Ibarazaki wrote:
Hmm that's interesting. I had a fan on my laptop rev up much faster than usual while playing EVE after today's patch as well. I figured it was an odd fluke but now I'm not sure.

Laptop fans have a tendency to go off "randomly". I wouldn't look too deeply into that coincidence.
Ryu Ibarazaki
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-05-22 16:08:51 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:

Ryu Ibarazaki wrote:
Hmm that's interesting. I had a fan on my laptop rev up much faster than usual while playing EVE after today's patch as well. I figured it was an odd fluke but now I'm not sure.

Laptop fans have a tendency to go off "randomly". I wouldn't look too deeply into that coincidence.


Cool cool, thanks for the advice.