Science & Industry

PI in lowsec can be done with an hour a day. One account with three toons can net you a significant amount of ISK.

I think the best advice I can give is always look for ways to reduce the amount of time actually doing anything in Eve.

Whether it is outsourcing the hauling (Get to know the good people in the haulers channel), having automated spreadsheets (still working on this myself) or flying your own freighters instead of smaller haulers you can save a lot time and get to avoid the more insanity-inducing tasks.

It is all in how you define your game experience. As a single individual it is impossible to source all the material you would need to do even simple manufacturing processes continuously over a sustained period of time.

You can vertically integrate yourself with friends or minions. However sharing rewards from the value added with friends can be difficult due to the perception differences between how individuals value their time. The other option is to work with minions that lack the ability to understand the full process, they can supply you materials for market rate or less, forfeiting the value added from the manufacturing process. It will be up to the individual, whether or not the extra social interaction is worth their time.

Solo in EVE is difficult to define. It is not difficult to be solo, but in a corporation of 30+ characters. Being a single entity but able to utilize many characters can be extremely powerful if you manufacture. However it takes money to make money in manufacturing.

A single well skilled character with 10-11 manufacturing slots, a strong BPO library, and sufficient capital, can easy deploy 10s of Billions in assets in manufacturing jobs. Those jobs can be setup to be run in an NPC station for month duration, therefore once established, little effort is needed to maintain the process. Allowing the user to enjoy a nice income to experience the many joys this game has to offer without having to grind for it. There is a grind that is added when you need to sell off your goods, but depending on your timeframe the “work” involved can be minimized greatly.

As for getting to that level, it takes patience, planning, and intelligence. The thought process will be the same whether just finishing production efficiency level 5, or have been building stuff for 10 years. Thanks to the exponential function, manufacturing only gets easier and more profitable over time.

Fly Profitably

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Disinformation and sarcasm aside, it takes work and skills in-game to make money in industry here. There is no Easy Button. You have to check the markets, check your math, decide where you want to draw the line on PROFITS, and, above all else, understand the difference between COST and VALUE.

This is how I make most of my isk because I really don't like ratting on a regular basis. I find it boring as hell, aside from odd bout of killing sleepers that actually CAN blow up your ship.

In terms of indy, there are a few key things that you really need to understand and do right but once you get your fingers behind it with about an hour of effort a day you'll easily make more isk than you spend.... and it could be a lot more.

I'm going to say that once you're established then for each indy character you have doing production, you'll clear on the order a 1bil per month. Just see that as a rule of thumb. I'm sure some smartass will pipe up that he makes 18 gazillion a month doing some top-secret thing, but realistically what I find comfortable per character and given the necessary organisation is about a billion a month.

Once you have everything down pat then you can spend < 1 hour a day on research/manufacturing iterations. It takes about the same time each morning as to read the newspaper. One day a week you will have to set aside a bit more time to do market research (Isk Per Hour software helps), haul/courier goods to trade hub, sell the goods, do an inventory count, purchase new raw materials, purchase pos fuel, and haul/courier them back.

I am assuming that those are you total revenues but what are your profits like? I see you made over 2 billion isk in 3 days but curious to know exactly how much you spent or what were your profits and did you do this on one chara only?

This thread was a good read as I'm just starting in Industry on one of my characters. Putting a few tendrils into PI at the moment, in fact I dropped my first Command Center last night.

My trouble is really that I don't have a goal (beyond making money), I don't know what it is I want to manufacture. I have a few BPO's, mainly ammo and small ships that I use on my other characters.