EVE General Discussion

I can live in nullsec, solo. But I have to wait, and look, and take notes on the people I see, and take my risk. That's why I go to 0.0, to take risk and adventure.

I think that the problem here is that in order to live in 0.0 you need a pos, or an outpost, and you can't defend them without a blob, a decent group of capitals, or a fleet of supercarriers.

If only there were a way to build a base that is suitable for a small group and defendable by a small group against a bigger entity, small entities could come in 0.0 and make some experiences.

I used to live in 0.0 for a large part of my eve live. Do you know what drove me away? I could no longer pull long hours in the game. Due to having a live, a wife and a job I became a casual player. I logged into the game during EU prime time. Do you know what happens in 0.0 at that time?
1. No small scale pvp, roaming gangs fun - this is the time when alliances organize big ops. POS shooting, Battleship blobbing. Boring piece of ****.
2. No PvE content to earn money for pvp ships. Why? Because during prime time belts are filled with people, anomalies are filled with people and plexes are filled with people. PvE is boring and doing oversaturated PvE content means having to spend more time to get some ISK. **** that.

So to get money for pvp i had to move to hisec. And there I discovered I don't wanna go back to bullshit POS shooting and being poor.

the reason people get out of nosec is that it is just not worth the effort

who wants to camp gates for 6 hours? who wants to run sieges for 8 hours?

I've heard FCs during these operations go "that's it for me, I'm exhausted, who wants to take over?"

the reason games like call of duty are so successful, despite their publishers' greedy business policies, is that they are very easy to get into for a quick game of blast-a-noob, an ease of access to fun which eve could use in 0.0

eve has its own appeal, but all that is wasted after hours of being stationary, going crazy watching bubbles

wanna repopulate 0.0? how about extending highsec into low sec and moving low sec into nullsec? it would certainly be a better use of what is now essentially wasted space, it could even be passed as the empires enlarging their areas of influence

Quick 'where I fit' bit
My play style is small group of players, major in production and logistics but with the skills and will to fight if needed. Guess you could say I am a carebear with teeth. Most of my EvE career up to moving into a WH was spent in Hi sec with brief times in the early FIX alliance (pre in game alliances) and some low and null sec time.

So what?
I have spent most of this year living in WH space. I moved in, total commitment, everything I owned was in this system with the exception of a few shuttles etc and it was totally the best time I have had in EvE in the 8+ years I have been playing.

I love the fact that we can get jumped and ganked, but the major difference here is that the attackers and we have the same playing field. What I mean is that if you jump into a 0.0 system simple use of the map filters and local chat will give the 'locals' warning that things are going on... not the case in a WH.

Also, while we can't own the WH system in terms of Sov we can 'own' it and defend it even as a small group, and this is all I have ever wanted out of EvE. I want to own a system, set-up shop and build a business. Because of this I am excited to see what the 'small holding' being talked about will bring because that is very much what I have always wanted.

One Idea I did have for WH's was to have a shop module (bit like the customs office) on the outside of a POS shield that would allow you to sell items at a POS. Think last Gas station before the desert idea here.


TL;DR

There are many players who would like to be part of the 0.0 game... just not the shooting bit 100% of the time. There needs to be a way for small groups to make their way in the 0.0 world without exposing multi billion ISK to an enemy that out number you 100-to-1.

I don't want all your stuffs, just want you sell you more stuffs locally to you :-)


-CJ

Where is anyone talking about forcing anyone to go anywhere?

Valid question! As Jenshae Chiroptera notes, it's been talked about elsewhere. But not in this thread.

Thankfully both the OP and most of those posting comments all realize that you need a buff to the carrots, not bigger sticks. :)

Well all I will say with respect to that (and to your sig) is that I take a different view of the matter, and that anyone who agrees with me might wish to read & respond to my manifesto.

Read the post, not the poster. Other than the fact a goon liked it, what do you find "disturbing" about it?

I am not going to read 30 pages of loltext, so forgive me if this opinion has been expressed before elsewhere.

Aside from high-end (C5/C6) wormholes, w-space is dead or at least gravely wounded, or maybe zombie. The OP is speaking from a position of glaring ignorance of the facts - i am sure CCP Dropbear and his team of pencil-sharpeners will know what I'm talking about if they look at the market suply of w-space components these days, and tally up the number of C1-C3 wormholes going unratted for days, weeks at a time - or indeed empty.

Wormholes aren't detracting from nullsec. There's a total of 20K toons in w-space, which is probably, considering the number of alts we all have, about 7,000 meat-people or less, spread over 12K systems. There are probably over 50% unpopulated C4 and C5 systems because the statics suck, there aren't enough planets to spawn anoms on, or the planets suck for PI, meaning you are punishing yourself to live there unneccessarily.

W-space is now in need of love, because of Incursions. Just the facts, ma'am. my corp is making more from this fact via trade than we do from running anoms, for less effort.

You and people who think like you are one of the biggest impediments to EVE evolving as originally envisioned.
go play some other game.