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Dev Blog: Reinventing the Radial Menu for Odyssey

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CCP Eterne
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C C P Alliance
#1 - 2013-05-21 14:44:01 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
A big part of Odyssey is helping players feel more connected with the world of EVE Online. While dropdown menus and the current UI does a cromulent job of presenting information, CCP Sharq is here with a dev blog on our new Radial Menu to help ease your day-to-day experience of piloting through EVE.

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CCP karkur
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C C P Alliance
#2 - 2013-05-21 14:48:54 UTC
Yay, radial menu... let us know what you think :)

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Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
#3 - 2013-05-21 14:51:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Edward Olmops
Tried it already on the Test server, thumbs up!
It might need some time to get used to this new type of interface, but it can only be faster than the old way...
CCP Sharq
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#4 - 2013-05-21 14:54:47 UTC
Hey Pilots!

As CCP Karkur said, tell us what you think about the Radial Menu revamp.

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CCP Sharq
C C P
C C P Alliance
#5 - 2013-05-21 14:55:44 UTC
CCP Sharq wrote:
Hey Pilots!

As CCP Karkur said, tell us what you think about the Radial Menu revamp.



EDIT: karkur with a lowercase 'k'

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Elsa Nietchize
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-05-21 14:57:04 UTC
Been playing with it on Sisi. Kinda cool bu takes some getting used to.
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#7 - 2013-05-21 14:59:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Dersen Lowery
Touch screen interface incoming! I can't wait.

EDIT: And why is "To Captain's Quarters" an option on the right-click menu for a ship in your hangar? Unless it does something awesome like drop the Rifter in your CQ? It might be worth revisiting those menus...

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IceGuerilla
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-05-21 15:01:39 UTC
Just make sure you keep the right-click menu, or bittervets will drill you a new eyeball.
CCP Sharq
C C P
C C P Alliance
#9 - 2013-05-21 15:05:09 UTC
Dersen Lowery wrote:
Touch screen interface incoming! I can't wait.

EDIT: And why is "To Captain's Quarters" an option on the right-click menu for a ship in your hangar? Unless it does something awesome like drop the Rifter in your CQ? It might be worth revisiting those menus...


That could be a bonus we get out of this! but not our first priority when we started this project.

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#10 - 2013-05-21 15:06:17 UTC
fully supporting high res texture packs (and radial menus)

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#11 - 2013-05-21 15:06:50 UTC
Reminds me of screenshots from 2001... http://eve-files.com/chribba/2001.02_Crystal_firstUI.jpg

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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-05-21 15:08:11 UTC
Eve had a radial menu?

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CCP Sharq
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2013-05-21 15:12:11 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Eve had a radial menu?


HAS... Click and hold left mouse button on a bracket in the world-space, radial menu appears.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#14 - 2013-05-21 15:12:35 UTC
Yes, EVE has a radial menu. You will only encounter it when it's least useful to you, usually when you're trying to turn the camera around and happen to drag an object by accident.

This iteration of the radial menu looks like it will be useful, some good work from kick-arse devs like CCP karkur & team. I won't be able to provide feedback until I get home, which sadly means after Odyssey goes live.

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SlayerOfArgus
Hermes Enterprises
#15 - 2013-05-21 15:13:46 UTC
Interesting, I'll have to go give this a looksee. Just a quick note, include a link to the sisi server info on these kinds of dev blogs just in case people don't already have it set up or don't know exactly what or where the test server is at.
Rengerel en Distel
#16 - 2013-05-21 15:15:15 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Yes, EVE has a radial menu. You will only encounter it when it's least useful to you, usually when you're trying to turn the camera around and happen to drag an object by accident.

This iteration of the radial menu looks like it will be useful, some good work from kick-arse devs like CCP karkur & team. I won't be able to provide feedback until I get home, which sadly means after Odyssey goes live.


It was one of the first things i asked in rookie help how to turn off. Luckily someone was nice enough to mention changing it to the middle mouse button, and my life became easier. Don't believe they're keeping the option of the middle mouse button, which is a shame with how much the thing lags out now.

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CCP karkur
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C C P Alliance
#17 - 2013-05-21 15:18:27 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP karkur
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Don't believe they're keeping the option of the middle mouse button, which is a shame with how much the thing lags out now.


They are... at this very moment I'm changing it so you can map it to any of the mouse buttons and also change the delay Big smile

And we are working on the lag, and I believe it's solved for the most parts Smile

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Bubanni
Primal Instinct Inc.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2013-05-21 15:22:23 UTC
I would like some customization of how long it takes to trigger the radial menu, or even a key to hold down to trigger it instantly when clicking on something in space... as an alternative to having to old down the mouse for a sec...

even if you only add a function in the shortcut menu under ESC, that people have to add their own desired key to, that would be enough... say I wanted the radial to show up instantly when I left clicked on something, I just have to add a key like < or alt or whatever... and then hold that down + mouse 1.

it might be useful to also allow people to change what mouse number to click to activate the radial menu, such as using the center mouse (3).

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C C P
C C P Alliance
#19 - 2013-05-21 15:26:17 UTC
Bubanni wrote:
I would like some customization of how long it takes to trigger the radial menu, or even a key to hold down to trigger it instantly when clicking on something in space... as an alternative to having to old down the mouse for a sec...

even if you only add a function in the shortcut menu under ESC, that people have to add their own desired key to, that would be enough... say I wanted the radial to show up instantly when I left clicked on something, I just have to add a key like < or alt or whatever... and then hold that down + mouse 1.

it might be useful to also allow people to change what mouse number to click to activate the radial menu, such as using the center mouse (3).


CCP karkur wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Don't believe they're keeping the option of the middle mouse button, which is a shame with how much the thing lags out now.


They are... at this very moment I'm changing it so you can map it to any of the mouse buttons and also change the delay Big smile

And we are working on the lag, and I believe it's solved for the most parts Smile


Answered before you asked ;) CCP karkur and team are one step ahead it appears!

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MainDrain
Applied Anarchy
The Initiative.
#20 - 2013-05-21 15:27:06 UTC
Bubanni wrote:
I would like some customization of how long it takes to trigger the radial menu, or even a key to hold down to trigger it instantly when clicking on something in space... as an alternative to having to old down the mouse for a sec...

even if you only add a function in the shortcut menu under ESC, that people have to add their own desired key to, that would be enough... say I wanted the radial to show up instantly when I left clicked on something, I just have to add a key like < or alt or whatever... and then hold that down + mouse 1.

it might be useful to also allow people to change what mouse number to click to activate the radial menu, such as using the center mouse (3).


I would also agree with this

The ability to select an item via the radial menu using a number key could also be useful for the default actions.
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