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Admiral Yanala, I should like to shake your hand.

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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#1 - 2013-05-20 23:14:08 UTC
I understand that you are in seclusion until the end of the investigations, but you are a hero to many. Caldari and non-Caldari.

It is said that we are all tested before God. When the time was right, you passed your test and saved the lives of billions. I and many others hope to give you the honors you rightly deserve when the time comes for you to rejoin us.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#2 - 2013-05-20 23:45:22 UTC
I would very much like to meet the admiral myself as well, although I don't think we will ever hear from the Admiral ever again. I have a gut feeling that she has been silenced or perhaps even worse..... shes dead.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#3 - 2013-05-20 23:51:38 UTC
As a capsuleer, she'd presumably been reanimated after her death aboard the Shiigeru. My fear is that her silence is due to her being in Heth's custody.

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-05-20 23:54:17 UTC
Someone made a HUUGE mistake.
I don't see this ending well.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#5 - 2013-05-21 01:46:42 UTC
I for one am proud to say that I never stopped regarding Admiral Visera Yanala as a hero. She was a hero even before the events of Caldari Prime. Eighty years of service, dedicated and loyal service, to the Caldari State. what more of a legacy could one ask for?

None. She didn't ask for the legacy of a hero. She didn't do it to be a hero. She did it because that was what had to be done at the time.

Like Yakiya Tovil-Toba, Visera Yanala will be a name long remembered in then annals of history.

You may expect an announcement from Ishuk-Raata soon.

Katrina Oniseki

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#6 - 2013-05-21 02:00:20 UTC
My instinct tells me that we'll be doing a memorial service instead.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#7 - 2013-05-21 02:16:50 UTC
I don't understand why everybody thinks she is dead? Seriously.

There has been absolutely no evidence to suggest she is dead. Most of you had never heard of her until a few months ago... and now that she isn't waving her arms in front of a crowd, you all think she is dead? Give the woman a shred of respect and stop calling her gone before her time.

Katrina Oniseki

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#8 - 2013-05-21 02:23:29 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
I don't understand why everybody thinks she is dead? Seriously.

There has been absolutely no evidence to suggest she is dead. Most of you had never heard of her until a few months ago... and now that she isn't waving her arms in front of a crowd, you all think she is dead? Give the woman a shred of respect and stop calling her gone before her time.



It's not out of disrespect that I think she's likely never to be seen alive again.

It's the respectability of her actions and the lack of self respect of Heth and the provists that makes me fear for the worst.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#9 - 2013-05-21 02:30:01 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
I don't understand why everybody thinks she is dead? Seriously.

There has been absolutely no evidence to suggest she is dead. Most of you had never heard of her until a few months ago... and now that she isn't waving her arms in front of a crowd, you all think she is dead? Give the woman a shred of respect and stop calling her gone before her time.



It's not out of disrespect that I think she's likely never to be seen alive again.

It's the respectability of her actions and the lack of self respect of Heth and the provists that makes me fear for the worst.


I can appreciate that, but let's try to cut back on the doomsaying, hmm? It's okay to be worried, but perhaps we should treat the woman as if she is still alive until we have evidence to suggest otherwise.

Katrina Oniseki

Kytre Aurgnet
Better Hide R Die EVE
#10 - 2013-05-21 02:30:02 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
I don't understand why everybody thinks she is dead? Seriously.

There has been absolutely no evidence to suggest she is dead. Most of you had never heard of her until a few months ago... and now that she isn't waving her arms in front of a crowd, you all think she is dead? Give the woman a shred of respect and stop calling her gone before her time.

Then where is she?

For someone who was so decorated, so dedicated to her people and State, silence for so long seems very unusual.

If she is not dead, I can't help but fear she wishes she were. I fear she disobeyed Heth's direct orders to fire Oblivion at the Federation Fleet, or worse at either Caldari Prime itself or even Gallente Prime, and is paying for her (in)action during the battle.

There is just no way she is somewhere safe and sound, relaxing and just enjoying life without being heard from.

At the very least, the Navy would make a statement she is fine, especially now that people are rallying to honor her even more...but instead we get an eerie silence...

Something isn't right.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#11 - 2013-05-21 02:31:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Kytre Aurgnet wrote:

Then where is she?


Where was she for 80 years before she began posting here on the IGS? Doing her job.

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For someone who was so decorated, so dedicated to her people and State, silence for so long seems very unusual.


Speaking to us is not one of her responsibilities, no matter how loudly we demand it.

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If she is not dead, I can't help but fear she wishes she were. I fear she disobeyed Heth's direct orders to fire Oblivion at the Federation Fleet, or worse at either Caldari Prime itself or even Gallente Prime, and is paying for her (in)action during the battle.

There is just no way she is somewhere safe and sound, relaxing and just enjoying life without being heard from.

At the very least, the Navy would make a statement she is fine, especially now that people are rallying to honor her even more...but instead we get an eerie silence...

Something isn't right.


As I've said before, let's cut back on the doomsaying.

((I know some of you think it's cool and all to predict what's going to happen next because you read a chronicle out of character, but it is starting to resemble using OOC information IC. That's called metagaming. Let's be careful to avoid that.))

Katrina Oniseki

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#12 - 2013-05-21 02:32:54 UTC
I believe there's an ongoing investigation as to the events of Caldari Prime. She’s probably participating in that investigation as one of the key players in that event.

Perhaps you’ve never seen a formal government inquiry, but they serious affairs. The Admiral is likely secluded at the moment.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#13 - 2013-05-21 02:50:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Commissar Kate
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
I don't understand why everybody thinks she is dead? Seriously.

There has been absolutely no evidence to suggest she is dead. Most of you had never heard of her until a few months ago... and now that she isn't waving her arms in front of a crowd, you all think she is dead? Give the woman a shred of respect and stop calling her gone before her time.



I don't mean to disrespect the Admiral. But I've experienced too much grief in the past 25 years and don't have much hope when people suddenly disappear anymore. I know its horrible, but I have came to expect and plan for the worst. I hope the Admiral is alive and well but until I have news of that I can't but help of thinking what could have happened to her.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#14 - 2013-05-21 02:56:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Commissar Kate wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
I don't understand why everybody thinks she is dead? Seriously.

There has been absolutely no evidence to suggest she is dead. Most of you had never heard of her until a few months ago... and now that she isn't waving her arms in front of a crowd, you all think she is dead? Give the woman a shred of respect and stop calling her gone before her time.



I don't mean to disrespect the Admiral. But I've experienced too much grief in the past 25 years and don't have much hope when people suddenly disappear anymore. I know its horrible, but I have came to expect and plan for the worst. I hope the Admiral is alive and well but until I have news of that I can't but help of thinking what could have happened to her.


Well Kate, the next time you take a long vacation, I'm going to start crapping up our message boards about how you must be dead. That should be interesting!

Katrina Oniseki

Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-05-21 03:14:27 UTC
Yanala put the lives of billions in front of petty politics, her career, and her own life.

The sons and daughters of both the Caldari and Gallente will celebrate her name for decades to come.

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Kytre Aurgnet
Better Hide R Die EVE
#16 - 2013-05-21 03:28:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Kytre Aurgnet
I'm sorry if I am completely misunderstanding Caldari culture, Katrina Oniseki, but where I come from heroes do not disappear for months after their heroic accomplishments, without communication of any sort, unless something terrible has happened to them. And if she has returned to active service, do you not think those whom she serves with would be ecstatic to be in her presence, that at the very least people would know where she is?

However, I cannot be sorry for my feelings on the Executor; what he has done in these past few years has cost me many friends and even a family member; his actions of late have me even more worried about the safety of my friends still in Caldari space, and rumors I have heard from them do not give me any confidence that he would treat anyone who even so much as gives him a dirty look with anything less than severe punishment. Somethings I've heard make me wonder who would be worse to be wanted by; Blaque or Heth?
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#17 - 2013-05-21 04:15:16 UTC
Kytre Aurgnet wrote:
I'm sorry if I am completely misunderstanding Caldari culture, Katrina Oniseki, but where I come from heroes do not disappear for months after their heroic accomplishments, without communication of any sort, unless something terrible has happened to them. And if she has returned to active service, do you not think those whom she serves with would be ecstatic to be in her presence, that at the very least people would know where she is?

However, I cannot be sorry for my feelings on the Executor; what he has done in these past few years has cost me many friends and even a family member; his actions of late have me even more worried about the safety of my friends still in Caldari space, and rumors I have heard from them do not give me any confidence that he would treat anyone who even so much as gives him a dirty look with anything less than severe punishment. Somethings I've heard make me wonder who would be worse to be wanted by; Blaque or Heth?


It's quite alright that you do not understand, and I respect you for admitting that upfront. It should be noted that Yanala does not consider herself a hero, and she likely doesn't care about public opinion for worse or better. She's a Navy woman through and through, and to her there are likely far more important things to think about than celebrations of her doing what she had to do.

That being said, I do recognize that she has not been returned to active duty yet, but there is still a fairly in-depth investigation going on, and for all we know she could have been reassigned elsewhere. I simply think it's too early to start calling her anything but quiet.

Katrina Oniseki

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#18 - 2013-05-21 05:36:34 UTC
Given the circumstances, a return to active duty is not likely in the near term; it is, however, curious that the admiral has not spoken in her own defense, given some of Heth's statements about the Caldari Prime incident. Considering, I would have expected either a statement from the admiral directly, or the Navy on her behalf.

That said, I expect we'll shortly hear from the Navy and CEP on the events leading up to the Caldari Prime incident, and this will likely include more than a mere exoneration of the admiral. I suspect they'll roust her from whatever isolation Heth has her in, and that will be that.

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Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
The Fourth District
#19 - 2013-05-21 06:24:10 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Given the circumstances, a return to active duty is not likely in the near term; it is, however, curious that the admiral has not spoken in her own defense, given some of Heth's statements about the Caldari Prime incident. Considering, I would have expected either a statement from the admiral directly, or the Navy on her behalf.

That said, I expect we'll shortly hear from the Navy and CEP on the events leading up to the Caldari Prime incident, and this will likely include more than a mere exoneration of the admiral. I suspect they'll roust her from whatever isolation Heth has her in, and that will be that.


Or perhaps, unlike megacorporate CEOs and their PR departments, the Caldari Navy's officer corps makes efforts to avoid meddling in the internal politics of the State.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-05-21 06:50:31 UTC
I admit that I misjudged the admiral. I thought of her as just another one of Heth's tools, and in this I was completely mistaken. She was apparently a better person than most of us.

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