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Why would I use torpedoes after Odysesey?
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Steve Spooner
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-05-19 21:28:00 UTC
Come the cruise missile buff (which I have an epic hard on for) in odyssey there is even less reason to use torpedoes because the damage gap is being tightened by both a damage increase and bonuses to explosive radius to ships as well as a overall increase in usefulness via speed increase (Raven Raven Raven Raven Raven). So what niche would torpedoes fit, other than for stealth bombers, since there is no news of changes being made to them in odyssey (which I really hope they do, because I Iike biggy boom boom torpedoes).
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-19 21:32:27 UTC
i dont ill use cruise missiles in pvp

Art of Explosions
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-05-19 22:48:25 UTC
They should give us back the AOE torps of the olden days.Big smile
OfBalance
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-05-20 00:42:13 UTC
Confirming I would like cavalry ravens back.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#5 - 2013-05-20 01:21:23 UTC
Silly idea, but maybe boost their damage and nerf the explosion radius or velocity in such a way that they keep doing the same damage as they do now against ships but massively more damage against structures.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#6 - 2013-05-20 01:44:22 UTC
Torps are already one of the best weapons for structure grinding, the Raven is easily able to put out over 1k dps @ large POS range.
Steve Spooner
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-05-20 17:35:03 UTC
Orrrr you can use a dreadnaught? I have yet to see a raven fleet grinding a POS away and I don't imagine them being able to fight back well if they were dropped on.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#8 - 2013-05-20 17:46:49 UTC
Because you can't put cruise missiles on a bomber anymore.
Nash MacAllister
Air
The Initiative.
#9 - 2013-05-20 18:35:59 UTC
Steve Spooner wrote:
Orrrr you can use a dreadnaught? I have yet to see a raven fleet grinding a POS away and I don't imagine them being able to fight back well if they were dropped on.


That's why you use Torp fit Rattlers with Sentries and Logi support...

Yes, if you have to ask yourself the question, just assume we are watching you...
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#10 - 2013-05-20 18:46:21 UTC
I won't be using Torps after the change.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
hellcane
Never Back Down
#11 - 2013-05-20 22:50:51 UTC
While they have hinted that they will be looking at torps in the future, I am not holding my breath. Torps died when the pretty rings stopped flying across my screen
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-05-21 00:16:56 UTC
hellcane wrote:
While they have hinted that they will be looking at torps in the future, I am not holding my breath. Torps died when the pretty rings stopped flying across my screen


Yes, bring the pretty rings back, but not just visuals, we demand AOE torps!Big smile
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-05-21 10:58:40 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
Torps are already one of the best weapons for structure grinding, the Raven is easily able to put out over 1k dps @ large POS range.



Full dmg mods Arty Maelstron can put 20K holes in structures

Gankalol Blaster fit beats everything sub cap after 1min shooting at hihubs and everything not having shields

Torps suck unless with bombers

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-05-21 11:04:16 UTC
Steve Spooner wrote:
Orrrr you can use a dreadnaught? I have yet to see a raven fleet grinding a POS away and I don't imagine them being able to fight back well if they were dropped on.



Without a good support fleet or a capital fleet better leave your Dreadnaught at the station.

Everyone likes to kill capitals, Dreadnaughts and carriers are crunchy Lol

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Steve Spooner
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-05-21 23:34:19 UTC
A decent fit Vindicator/Machariel is worth more than a carrier, you don't see everyone with a rifter within 10 light years traveling at boner speeds to gank one of those.
Mathias Orsen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-05-22 04:06:19 UTC
Steve Spooner wrote:
A decent fit Vindicator/Machariel is worth more than a carrier, you don't see everyone with a rifter within 10 light years traveling at boner speeds to gank one of those.


Never understood that myself. I'd rather use a carrier in PVP because it's cheaper than most my other PVP ships but my more expensive PVP ships are far less juicy in the eyes of the vultures. I don't think it has anything to do with the value of the ship. It's more about taking down the bigger beast.
Soon Shin
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
#17 - 2013-05-22 04:41:19 UTC
They said they will look at torpedoes but it will be after the expansion.
Crellion
Nano Rhinos
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#18 - 2013-05-22 05:35:01 UTC
Wasnt there something that mentioned missile skills applying to torps post patch? Or is it me?
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#19 - 2013-05-22 05:51:01 UTC
Crellion wrote:
Wasnt there something that mentioned missile skills applying to torps post patch? Or is it me?


That was a previous expansion and it still hasn't made torps useable and with the buff to cruise it pretty much killed torps.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-05-22 07:15:56 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
Crellion wrote:
Wasnt there something that mentioned missile skills applying to torps post patch? Or is it me?


That was a previous expansion and it still hasn't made torps useable and with the buff to cruise it pretty much killed torps.



this basically.

While the skills apply you, imo, still get the range issues. Range issues you have to slap on range rigs for. No room for flare or rigor to hit better.

Which with cruise buff means cruises look even better with the damage boost. Its not raw torp damage....but unless massiviely tp'd neither is raw torp damage from torps lol.


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