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Karl Ronson
Molster Enterprises
#1 - 2013-05-19 19:31:02 UTC
I have been doing t1 production for some time and want to start with t2 production. Ive been looking at some of the things is use on a regular basis (eg t2 light neutron blaster) but i cant find any blueprints. I think the t2 bpos are very hard to come by and very expensive but i was expecting to find bpcs, i dont see any on contracts. Am i doing something wrong? Where should i be looking for them?
Alyssa SaintCroix
Leihkasse Stammheim
#2 - 2013-05-19 19:50:26 UTC
What you're looking for is invented blueprint copies, the original BPOs are VERY expensive, we're talking in the many billions of isk. It's hit or miss whether or not the invented BPC is up on contracts. Check the contracts window for Jita.
Rutger Janssen
Chanuur
The Initiative.
#3 - 2013-05-19 19:55:04 UTC
You are correct that t2 bpo are hard to come by and very expensive. The sell order forum is where they usually get sold.

T2 copies can either be made by copying a t2 bpo(which doesn't happen very often) or need it be invented.

I don't know why players don't invent those bpcs. Could either be it's not profitable to invent and sell bpc or they invent and build them themselves, too much effort for the profit etc.
Karl Ronson
Molster Enterprises
#4 - 2013-05-19 19:59:14 UTC
So sounds like im going to need to do invention which means either waiting forever to use npc stations or setting up a pos?
Logit Probit
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-05-19 20:01:30 UTC
You can find some BPC under contracts, but most of them are going to be expensive because most people will likely produce the item after rather then sell the BPC.

If your serious about looking into T2 production you have really 2 options besides spending billions on a T2 BPO when it comes up for sale.

1) Hang a PoS with Labs, copy the BPO, use the copies to invent a T2 BPC, produce the item from those BPCs.

or

2) Hire someone with a research tower to make you a bulk amount of T2 BPCs at a set price.
Rutger Janssen
Chanuur
The Initiative.
#6 - 2013-05-19 20:07:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Rutger Janssen
If you're going to make the t1 bpcs yourself, yeah. Could also consider buying that from others like ARLAB: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=184628

You ofcourse need the right invention skills, get the datacores, maybe see if a decryptor is worth it. And when the invention is succesfull, get the components and other items needed.

And ofcourse check if it's profitable to invent and build them! And if you believe the profit is worth your time.
Karl Ronson
Molster Enterprises
#7 - 2013-05-19 20:11:02 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Cura Ursus
Rutger Janssen wrote:
If you're going to make the t1 bpcs yourself, yeah. Could also consider buying that from others like ARLAB: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=184628

You ofcourse need the right invention skills, get the datacores, maybe see if a decryptor is worth it. And when the invention is succesfull, get the components and other items needed.

And ofcourse check if it's profitable to invent and build them! And if you believe the profit is worth your time.



That sounds interesting but was the link right?


I added the 8 to the quoted text as well.
--ISD Cura Ursus
Rutger Janssen
Chanuur
The Initiative.
#8 - 2013-05-19 20:44:24 UTC
No it wasn't, accidently removed the trailing 8, but looks you found the thread anyways. Afaik he only does t1, but he'll probably respond to you soon.
Kraillach
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-05-19 23:43:11 UTC
if you are only just gettin into t2 invention dont go for a pos off the bat.

do the invention in stations, there are plenty of free spots.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#10 - 2013-05-20 00:33:40 UTC
Kraillach wrote:
if you are only just gettin into t2 invention dont go for a pos off the bat.

do the invention in stations, there are plenty of free spots.

Copying is really the only reason to have a pos. I never used mine to invent. It's a pita. Stations are much easier.

But I agree, don't start off with a POS. Find something you can invent and make some isk from and get a copy alt in lowsec or a station with a low que time. I have high sec alts that I do this with and still don't have a pos.

But in any case, the big issue with T2 invention is copies. Everything else is pretty easy after you get set up.

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Kraillach
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-05-20 00:41:45 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
Kraillach wrote:
if you are only just gettin into t2 invention dont go for a pos off the bat.

do the invention in stations, there are plenty of free spots.

Copying is really the only reason to have a pos. I never used mine to invent. It's a pita. Stations are much easier.

But I agree, don't start off with a POS. Find something you can invent and make some isk from and get a copy alt in lowsec or a station with a low que time. I have high sec alts that I do this with and still don't have a pos.

But in any case, the big issue with T2 invention is copies. Everything else is pretty easy after you get set up.


agreed, copies are the hardest thing for me.

i tried it but as i invent then build and sell, it took too time away from invention jobs to do all the copies myself.

i now just buy all my copies from a few diff people.

not as cost effective but it makes it a hell of a lot easier for me and gives iskies to some newer chaps who are helpin me out.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#12 - 2013-05-20 02:03:05 UTC
I just use alts in lowsec stations. Pretty good way to go.

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brinelan
#13 - 2013-05-20 11:20:11 UTC
Rutger Janssen wrote:

I don't know why players don't invent those bpcs. Could either be it's not profitable to invent and sell bpc or they invent and build them themselves, too much effort for the profit etc.


There is plenty of invention going on, and almost everyone makes them for their own use. You will find some on contracts, but not all that many, especially of mods and such.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-05-20 12:46:18 UTC
Rutger Janssen wrote:
I don't know why players don't invent those bpcs. Could either be it's not profitable to invent and sell bpc or they invent and build them themselves, too much effort for the profit etc.


We do invent them, there's not that much of a market for module T2 BPCs though, so most people who invent will also manufacture the modules. More profit and faster turnover.
Karl Ronson
Molster Enterprises
#15 - 2013-05-20 23:02:29 UTC
Ah ok, that makes sense. Will look into getting the bpcs and doing the invention. Thansk for all your helpful replies!
Huttan Funaila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-05-21 23:37:30 UTC
One guy was selling a lot of copies of light neutron blaster bpc, you may wish to see if he still has some for sale.
Cavilha
Tupy Industries
#17 - 2013-05-22 01:28:26 UTC
If you want I can produce some T2 BPCs for you.

Send me evemail by which you need to step up prices