Issues, Workarounds & Localization

Recent patch changes has made it so that any loot not inside a wreck will always be parsed into separate jetcans if their total mass exceeds a single can's 27500 m3 capacity. It seems this has led to the unfortunate consequence that any object exceeding this size, such as packaged battleships and all unpackaged ships larger than frigates, can no longer drop as loot since they will not fit inside a jetcan. If a freighter wreck is salvaged, all such large objects disappear. Worse, since Ship Maintenance Arrays do not leave a wreck and no longer eject ships into space, this means they now never drop anything larger than frigates when destroyed.

Our corp's admittedly limited testing on the test server suggests it's even worse, that SMAs are not dropping anything when destroyed. This might be due to ships no longer being ejectable from cargo or unpackaged ones not being valid objects inside cans, but whatever the case, it seems to explain the recent spat of empty wormhole SMAs and the disappearance of the famed loot pinata. I'd appreciate others to independently verify our results, and if need be, raise CCP's awareness of the issue as soon as possible.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that others have reported cans and courier packages disappearing from salvaged wrecks as well, regardless of size. This might be due to cans not being valid objects inside other cans.

Chiming in. We recently found offline pinata's in a c5 and when we blew up everything, the only ship we got was a packaged noctis in the CHAs. CCP going to fix this?

When i destroy something with extreme prejudice, i too expect the contents of the fiery explosion to remain intact

this is indeed an outrage




Istyn, i do hope this is what you meant when you asked me to intervene in the thread,

did i do good?

110% this. Also, once CCP has this nipped they should look into adding ammo fired at pos mods as part of the drop. If the thing in my gun is called a Javelin then it damn well better be recoverable like one!

It's nice to know some peoples jimmies are rustled. The lack of concern/noticing an issue is a little surprising. Us PoS bashers must be a small community.

I have a feeling this goes back to loot from freighters now being scoopable by any ship. Which is all well and good, except for it completely breaks WH evictions ability to earn anything except a few mill by scooping the SMA. What really pisses me off is that I've filed a petition only to have a GM tell me that nothing dropped. Leading me to think that "nothing survived the explosion". Which is odd, considering it was an online POS when we started shooting. I figured it is technically possible for the RNG to prevent anything from dropping legitimately. Having now cleared several more loot pinatas and another active eviction, and seeing this thread, it now seems clear the GM was full of ****.

What good is a petition system if the GM won't actually tell you what happened?

What good are WH evictions if we can't take the reward from the people we evicted?

-E

This bug is bad and CCP should feel bad.

killed 4 sma's lately. I could look in the sma's (spy toon, but no roles to take them out) and there were caps in them, none of them ever dropped a ship, only a can with some modules!

NEEDS FIXING AND CONFIRMED BROKEN

Fix this CCP. So many reports with evidence, and not even a answer from you.

Confirming this is bad.. Happened to me yesterday.. Fix it now.. and spam petitions please