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Does my 30 day AP0 ban count as a first strike?

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Bloody Wench
#1 - 2013-05-18 13:50:29 UTC

If I were to sell the character, am I obliged to tell the buyer that the character already has a strike against it?

If I buy a character that already has a strike against it, how will I know?

Is it the character that has the strike or the account?

If it's the character can I clean the character by moving it to a fresh account?

If it's the Account can I clean the account by moving the characters on it to a fresh account?


Enquiring minds want to know.

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Joxxy
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-18 13:52:38 UTC
AFAIK - ban is connected to account.
Thebriwan
LUX Uls Xystus
#3 - 2013-05-18 13:53:48 UTC
You should ask CCP per petition not this forum.
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-05-18 13:55:04 UTC
It is the account that gets the strikes not the character. Not sure about the rest, but some type bans I hear not sure on this either they may ban all accounts associated with the same E-mail address if one of them is used for certain things and the others are not.
Bloody Wench
#5 - 2013-05-18 13:55:05 UTC
Thebriwan wrote:
You should ask CCP per petition not this forum.



Would save them a lot of petition time if they just answered it in public.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-05-18 13:56:31 UTC
<3 the AP-0 ban tears all over the forum now.

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Bloody Wench
#7 - 2013-05-18 14:00:09 UTC
Tuttomenui II wrote:
It is the account that gets the strikes not the character. Not sure about the rest, but some type bans I hear not sure on this either they may ban all accounts associated with the same E-mail address if one of them is used for certain things and the others are not.



On the day in question, I used AP0 on 2 different accounts, one was reprimanded, the other not. Both were used for about the same length of time. 18-20 jumps. All accounts are properly registered to one person on one email. So at least for this, on this occasion, they didn't go hog wild and shitcan the whole lot. Which would have sucked. Lesson learnt.

[u]**Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: **[/u]  CCP should not only make local delayed in highsec, but they should also require one be undocked to use it. Then, even the local spammers have some skin in the game. Support a High Resolution Texture Pack
Bloody Wench
#8 - 2013-05-18 14:00:29 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
<3 the AP-0 ban tears all over the forum now.




Show me the tears.

[u]**Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: **[/u]  CCP should not only make local delayed in highsec, but they should also require one be undocked to use it. Then, even the local spammers have some skin in the game. Support a High Resolution Texture Pack
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-05-18 14:05:27 UTC
before this gets locked.... allow me to laugh at you, OP

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

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Lexmana
#10 - 2013-05-18 14:05:40 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
Tuttomenui II wrote:
It is the account that gets the strikes not the character. Not sure about the rest, but some type bans I hear not sure on this either they may ban all accounts associated with the same E-mail address if one of them is used for certain things and the others are not.



On the day in question, I used AP0 on 2 different accounts, one was reprimanded, the other not. Both were used for about the same length of time. 18-20 jumps. All accounts are properly registered to one person on one email. So at least for this, on this occasion, they didn't go hog wild and shitcan the whole lot. Which would have sucked. Lesson learnt.


If you learned your lesson it doesn't matter if this was a first strike or not. Right?
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#11 - 2013-05-18 14:06:10 UTC
For botting, once you get a strike, you can no longer sell characters on that account - which means that it is impossible to buy characters that have a strike.

This probably applies to client modification bans as a rule, but I'm not 100% sure.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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Bloody Wench
#12 - 2013-05-18 14:08:26 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Bloody Wench wrote:
Tuttomenui II wrote:
It is the account that gets the strikes not the character. Not sure about the rest, but some type bans I hear not sure on this either they may ban all accounts associated with the same E-mail address if one of them is used for certain things and the others are not.



On the day in question, I used AP0 on 2 different accounts, one was reprimanded, the other not. Both were used for about the same length of time. 18-20 jumps. All accounts are properly registered to one person on one email. So at least for this, on this occasion, they didn't go hog wild and shitcan the whole lot. Which would have sucked. Lesson learnt.


If you learned your lesson it doesn't matter if this was a first strike or not. Right?



Never say never mate.


Grey Azorria wrote:
For botting, once you get a strike, you can no longer sell characters on that account - which means that it is impossible to buy characters that have a strike.

This probably applies to client modification bans as a rule, but I'm not 100% sure.



For real? Is that written somewhere?

[u]**Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: **[/u]  CCP should not only make local delayed in highsec, but they should also require one be undocked to use it. Then, even the local spammers have some skin in the game. Support a High Resolution Texture Pack
Othran
Route One
#13 - 2013-05-18 14:15:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Othran
Bloody Wench wrote:
For real? Is that written somewhere?


Yes but I can't remember where Roll. CCP changed the policy because (as predicted by anyone with a clue) people abused the character bazaar to get rid of characters with one strike.

Basically all your accounts are now unable to transfer characters - that's my recollection of the change.

At least you didn't get instantly permabanned on all accounts which is what would happen now for client modification.
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#14 - 2013-05-18 14:16:23 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:

Grey Azorria wrote:
For botting, once you get a strike, you can no longer sell characters on that account - which means that it is impossible to buy characters that have a strike.

This probably applies to client modification bans as a rule, but I'm not 100% sure.



For real? Is that written somewhere?

Yep, old Team Security devblog - and It looks like it applies to everyone who gets banned for something or another.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice.
Tlat Ij
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-05-18 14:20:05 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
Tuttomenui II wrote:
It is the account that gets the strikes not the character. Not sure about the rest, but some type bans I hear not sure on this either they may ban all accounts associated with the same E-mail address if one of them is used for certain things and the others are not.



On the day in question, I used AP0 on 2 different accounts, one was reprimanded, the other not. Both were used for about the same length of time. 18-20 jumps. All accounts are properly registered to one person on one email. So at least for this, on this occasion, they didn't go hog wild and shitcan the whole lot. Which would have sucked. Lesson learnt.


If you get permabanned, then CCP will ban all of your accounts. You should probably stop breaking the EULA/TOS before that happens.
Prince Kobol
#16 - 2013-05-18 14:38:34 UTC
I am begging the ISD not to lock this thread as the OP butthurt for being caught cheating and being lowest of the low is priceless :)
Bloody Wench
#17 - 2013-05-18 14:42:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloody Wench
Tuttomenui II wrote:

If you get permabanned, then CCP will ban all of your accounts. You should probably stop breaking the EULA/TOS before that happens.



I appreciate your concern and will evaluate my future decisions on a case by case basis. I knew what I was doing and the consequences involved.


While my cheating ways really haven't changed that much since I was 16, I've been getting caught lately.

I must be getting old and slow.

UO - Never Banned
SWG - Never Banned
WOW - Never Banned

SWTOR -Banned (couple of times)
PS2 - Banned (many many times)

Now this.

Maybe I dodged a bullet, and need to have a good long hard look at myself.






Prince Kobol wrote:
I am begging the ISD not to lock this thread as the OP butthurt for being caught cheating and being lowest of the low is priceless :)



Not sure you understand the term. My arse is fine thanks.

[u]**Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: **[/u]  CCP should not only make local delayed in highsec, but they should also require one be undocked to use it. Then, even the local spammers have some skin in the game. Support a High Resolution Texture Pack
Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-05-18 14:44:08 UTC
Shoulda been perma banned, I've jettisoned used cargo containers that have more worth than you bots and hackers. Arrow
Bloody Wench
#19 - 2013-05-18 14:46:15 UTC
Grey Azorria wrote:
Bloody Wench wrote:

Grey Azorria wrote:
For botting, once you get a strike, you can no longer sell characters on that account - which means that it is impossible to buy characters that have a strike.

This probably applies to client modification bans as a rule, but I'm not 100% sure.



For real? Is that written somewhere?

Yep, old Team Security devblog - and It looks like it applies to everyone who gets banned for something or another.



Cheers. +1 for you.

[u]**Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: **[/u]  CCP should not only make local delayed in highsec, but they should also require one be undocked to use it. Then, even the local spammers have some skin in the game. Support a High Resolution Texture Pack
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-05-18 14:55:07 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3047915#post3047915

You know I am sure this applies to the question asked here as well.
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