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Demolishar
United Aggression
#1 - 2013-05-17 21:32:30 UTC
Something quite important.
http://i.imgur.com/AdkCLLJ.jpg
CCP Atropos
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2013-05-17 21:38:52 UTC
Restart it. When it's pointing at Singularity you should see something more Blink
Demolishar
United Aggression
#3 - 2013-05-17 21:43:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Demolishar
OMG DO NOT WANT

Bring back the "PLAY" button. Or make it more easy to launch many chars by allowing to have profiles of many chars that you can launch at once with one click. This is a MASSIVE pain in it's current form for anyone multiboxing.
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#4 - 2013-05-17 22:57:57 UTC
"Making the log off button into a switch character button is too much work, so we removed it entirely! High-fives all around!"

Kind of crappy that we will never see the awesome log-in screens anymore, really
Octoven
Stellar Production
#5 - 2013-05-17 23:57:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Octoven
To be honest, it is no more a lengthy process to login. As current you hit play, type password and username into client and then login. With change you type user name and password into client and then hit play and you can go straight to select character.

This process does have some pros and cons though.

Pros:


  • You no longer have to re-type your account information if you want to switch characters, thus it makes it a bit faster for those who switch characters on the same account often; however, this will not benefit you if you switch between multiple accounts often.
  • It forces players to actually engage in the launcher screen rather then it just be a means to start up the client. So that is a bit more streamlined.


Cons:


  • As I said before, if you use more then one account on the same computer this is a bit of a pain in the ass.
  • You no longer get to see the login screen which has been CCP's sort of iconic image for EVE Online. I would like to keep that tradition.


Now, I have some suggestions to possibly diminish the cons and improve the pros of this new launcher. First off, I would rather have seen a button integrated into the client log off to force the client back to the character selection screen. To remove it completely and approach it through the launcher is a bit like saying, we don't know how so we are taking the lazy way out. I think this would make more people happy as well.

Essentially using a log off button to go back to the character selection screen would allow those who have multiple characters to select a new one without re-typing account info, BUT the quit game option would be there incase you want to sign in under a different account. This of course would bring back the simplified launcher; however, it would please both single account users and multi-boxers. Not to mention we would get the iconic login screen back :)

I understand this process is a better one for single accounts, to be honest I run one client on two computers so this doesnt affect me much; however, for multi-boxing users it really is a thorn in the side.

After experimenting I did find a way for multi-boxers to kind of get around this issue though. Set the options for the launcher to close upon client launch, also you can just hit the X to close the launcher out period anyway. When the launcher is closed, you are logged out of you account and you can then login to another account :)
Johan Toralen
IIIJIIIITIIII
#6 - 2013-05-18 01:39:43 UTC
Honestly i don't see a problem with this. You're actualy quicker in the game. You can switch account with one click in the new launcher and launch multiple clients as before. Sure the log in screen isn't there anymore. That's one less client idling in the background after logging of your alt.

Perhaps the character selection screen can be spiced up to replace the iconic old login screen.
Octoven
Stellar Production
#7 - 2013-05-18 02:23:49 UTC
Johan Toralen wrote:
Honestly i don't see a problem with this. You're actualy quicker in the game. You can switch account with one click in the new launcher and launch multiple clients as before. Sure the log in screen isn't there anymore. That's one less client idling in the background after logging of your alt.

Perhaps the character selection screen can be spiced up to replace the iconic old login screen.


I would like to see the animated graphics for the login screen be implented as the background image for the launcher :)
ABM Rambo
Canadian Forces Corp
United 4 Nations
#8 - 2013-05-18 03:25:29 UTC
Octoven
Stellar Production
#9 - 2013-05-18 03:28:30 UTC
ABM Rambo wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/wqQpE36.jpg

rude.


A. How is this relevant to the new launcher and B. Im assuming you decided to not play by the established rules?
Marlise Chelien
Awesome Federation of Awesome
#10 - 2013-05-18 03:41:32 UTC
I don't see anything particularly annoying about this new system as long as the "classic" login screen is left in the client (since I and some others I know launch the game directly from the exefile.exe to speed up the launching process between patches). it would be nice to see a new login animation but i think its more important that the old login still be available at least.
Brainless Bimbo
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-05-18 07:26:39 UTC
Can the default setting be set to close launcher.

already dead, just haven´t fallen over yet....
Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#12 - 2013-05-18 09:17:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Smoking Blunts
please bring back the play button.

I deal with 10 accounts each one has its own install and its own settings (yes I know there are other ways, I just like it my way)

I don't like having to deal with the launcher as it stands and I do not want to be made to deal with it in this way. plus your about to delete all my account names by making me upgrade each account to this (i don't remember most of the account names and is one of the reasons I have each account on its own install)

also. now I need to close other clients to patch 1. why have you reverted back to this old bad design?

OMG when can i get a pic here
Demolishar
United Aggression
#13 - 2013-05-18 10:04:17 UTC
Smoking Blunts wrote:
please bring back the play button.

I deal with 10 accounts each one has its own install and its own settings (yes I know there are other ways, I just like it my way)

I don't like having to deal with the launcher as it stands and I do not want to be made to deal with it in this way. plus your about to delete all my account names by making me upgrade each account to this (i don't remember most of the account names and is one of the reasons I have each account on its own install)

also. now I need to close other clients to patch 1. why have you reverted back to this old bad design?



Because CCP's stance on multiboxing is "Take their money, **** their gameplay".
CCP Atropos
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2013-05-18 10:37:49 UTC
Marlise Chelien wrote:
I don't see anything particularly annoying about this new system as long as the "classic" login screen is left in the client (since I and some others I know launch the game directly from the exefile.exe to speed up the launching process between patches). it would be nice to see a new login animation but i think its more important that the old login still be available at least.

For the moment the old method of logging into the client will remain, but in the long term we're intending to remove it. The old method doesn't fit with our plans to improve accessibility to the EVE Universe and with improvements to security such as two-factor authentication.
Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC
The Legends In The Game
#15 - 2013-05-18 10:41:05 UTC
Oh you got to be kidding me.. is this all because of doing the login screens and intro music? Are we not going to see it again.. well I need to say im going to miss it a lot. I am sure more people agree with this, I ve loved seeing the theme of the expansions with cool music ... ah never mind. It was overall better to log in from there, you should at least leave it there so we have two options of how to log in, is it possible to leave the play button there and have the choice of logging in from launcher?.
Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#16 - 2013-05-18 10:50:03 UTC
CCP Atropos wrote:

For the moment the old method of logging into the client will remain, but in the long term we're intending to remove it. The old method doesn't fit with our plans to improve accessibility to the EVE Universe and with improvements to security such as two-factor authentication.


this two factor authentication is a what a RSA token?

please say I wont need a different one for every account

OMG when can i get a pic here
CCP Atropos
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2013-05-18 10:50:47 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Atropos
Demolishar wrote:
Smoking Blunts wrote:
please bring back the play button.

I deal with 10 accounts each one has its own install and its own settings (yes I know there are other ways, I just like it my way)

I don't like having to deal with the launcher as it stands and I do not want to be made to deal with it in this way. plus your about to delete all my account names by making me upgrade each account to this (i don't remember most of the account names and is one of the reasons I have each account on its own install)

also. now I need to close other clients to patch 1. why have you reverted back to this old bad design?



Because CCP's stance on multiboxing is "Take their money, **** their gameplay".

It's actually the opposite, but please feel free to believe what you want. Precisely because we've never officially supported multiple accounts as a play style and pushed an authoritative way to run multiple accounts simultaneously, we now have the situation where there are many, many different ways to have set up your configuration to run your accounts.

Some people have multiple physical installations, others junction the one installation and yet other more exotic, hybrid combinations exist. There's no way we can support all of these, beyond coming up with a way that works best for the EVE client and the services we provide. With that in place we can then work towards moving people towards a single unified method of running multiple accounts that allows us to work to improve the whole experience rather than make no changes to improve it because of the constant fear of people disliking the new experience.

It also allows us to start thinking up really cool things like launching straight into a fleet fight from the forums (because you're already authenticated) when you get a call to arms on your corporation forum, or allowing Vivox chat from outside of the game or even out of game chatting with your corp mates.

I really want to start mitigating some of the problems people have with accessing and playing EVE and that includes changing the login flow. Other such changes might include storage of your client settings in the cloud so that when you login you can instantly pick your client launch configuration. However to do this means making some necessary changes to the current flow.
Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#18 - 2013-05-18 10:53:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Smoking Blunts
CCP Atropos wrote:
Demolishar wrote:
Smoking Blunts wrote:
please bring back the play button.

I deal with 10 accounts each one has its own install and its own settings (yes I know there are other ways, I just like it my way)

I don't like having to deal with the launcher as it stands and I do not want to be made to deal with it in this way. plus your about to delete all my account names by making me upgrade each account to this (i don't remember most of the account names and is one of the reasons I have each account on its own install)

also. now I need to close other clients to patch 1. why have you reverted back to this old bad design?



Because CCP's stance on multiboxing is "Take their money, **** their gameplay".

It's actually the opposite, but please feel free to believe what you want. Precisely because we've never officially supported multiple accounts as a play style and pushed an author authoritative way to run multiple accounts simultaneously, we now have the situation where there are many, many different ways to have set up your configuration to run your accounts.

Some people have multiple physical installations, others junction the one installation and yet other more exotic, hybrid combinations exist. There's no way we can support all of these, beyond coming up with a way that works best for the EVE client and the services we provide. With that in place we can then work towards moving people towards a single unified method of running multiple accounts that allows us to work to improve the whole experience rather than make no changes to improve it because of the constant fear of people disliking the new experience.

It also allows us to start thinking up really cool things like launching straight into a fleet fight from the forums (because you're already authenticated) when you get a call to arms on your corporation forum, allowing Vivox chat from outside of the game.

I really want to start mitigating some of the problems people have with accessing and playing EVE and that includes changing the login flow. Other such changes might include storage of your client settings in the cloud so that when you login you can instantly pick your client launch configuration. However to do this means making some necessary changes to the current flow.



currently I have no issues logging in what so ever.
its looking like with these current changes im going to have a bucket load of issues.

edit.
currently for a fleet fight I click the client that I know is in our staging system. its all pre set to have low graphics and on the correct monitor allocation. I open it and simply add a password. so with in 1 min im ready to pew pew.
what you seam to be implying is I need to log into a forum using 3 different bits of information. select from over 20 different toon's, adjust my settings there and then log in.
I don't like what you seam to want to do to my work flow tbh

OMG when can i get a pic here
Loco Kamikaze
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-05-18 10:56:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Loco Kamikaze
I... use six separate installs...
CCP Atropos wrote:
It also allows us to start thinking up really cool things like launching straight into a fleet fight from the forums (because you're already authenticated) when you get a call to arms on your corporation forum, or allowing Vivox chat from outside of the game or even out of game chatting with your corp mates.

you have my attention

that I should worry about losing my hearing is nonsense, because there will always be -=BASS=-
Johan Toralen
IIIJIIIITIIII
#20 - 2013-05-18 11:37:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan Toralen
Smoking Blunt there is zero reason to have a separate install for every account. You can have seperate settings and cache folders with just one install.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Multiple_clients

I think it's a bit extreme to ask CCP to maintain their old system just because you prefer it the awkward way and can't remember or write down your account names (what the hell do you do if your harddrive crashes?). My account names pop up on a list in the login screen and the new launcher aswell in the account name field so don't really understand what's the problem.
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