Ships & Modules

I'm too lazy to find out where MI holds sov (or if you hold sov), so you should probably talk to your alliance mates about a good Cruise Golem fit. It sounds like you need to tank ~400 DPS which should be relatively trivial.

-Liang

Ed: At first they will laugh at you about cruise golems and tell you that the golem is a torp boat. However, come the expansion the Golem is a cruise boat.

That may sound noob but what does the Sov have to do with it ?
( <- Returning after ... yeah that much time )

Last I checked Havens weren't all that common in NPC space and un-upgraded space. Which tends to mean that you're in sov space. Which means you probably need to live there. Which means you probably need to own sov.

But, however you're there I don't really care. It's not like that's how I make my ISK so... /shrug

-Liang

Ok whatever. Next time specify that you are looking for help with Angel Havens instead of asking about generic Havens. Because ain't nobody got time to ******* read your mind to figure out where you do your PVE grinding.

-Liang

Are you the OP? Turns out you are. And there I thought you were just a random **** poaster asking for fits because he wasn't creative enough to pull up EFT.

-Liang

I actually ran some tests yesterday night on Sisi, with similarly fitted Golem and CNR, as follow :




I tried a Volley on an Angel Cherubim,
Golem did 3066 dmg.
CNR did 3007 dmg.
Even though on-paper DPS is the same.

Golem has a better tank (448 for CNR, 682 for Golem), but a lower cap lifespan (2m7s instead of 3m32s)
Golem also has a smaller scan res, speed, align time, sensor strengh.
CNR has lower targeting range (93.75km, and 112.5km for Golem).

Given all this, I think I'll stick with the Golem since the goal here is to remain out of harm's way as long as possible and the ship can warp to 100km and still lock targets, which means i should have cleaned up most of the big DPS dealers before they close in and even get to deal anything else than missiles.

Besides, the cost of the whole setup is pretty similar around 1.7B, which I think might turn in favor of the Golem as I think CNR price is gonna explode pretty soon.

Only thing is I have Marauder Skill to 4 atm, which is good enough. I don't think getting it to 5 would change a lot, except helping a little with the emergency tank and maybe a bit more DPS ?

PS : The T2 fitted Golem I used for this test can clear an Angel Haven. I don't have T2 cruise missiles yet but even with Meta4 w/ DG Cruise I cleared it so with Fury it should be even easier.

What I'm wondering is if a voley of Fury can get 4 volleys to kill a BS instead of 5 with Meta4 / DG Nova

What's your idea ?

Any improvement he can make to the CNR would have carried over to the Golem fit too. But yes, both fits could have been improved.

-Liang

Woud you care to elaborate ?
I'm not a big EFT warrior nor pro theorycrafter so if you have any way to improve those fits, spit it out :)

This should be fine;
[Raven Navy Issue, OdysseyCNR]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Signal Amplifier II

100MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Booster II
Explosive Deflection Field II
Explosive Deflection Field II
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Cruise Missile

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

189km maximum kite range, perma-run the AB and cycle reps as you need them. It should have no trouble tanking the stray missiles as it has over 600 HP/s explosive tank. If you do take too much damage, you can increase the tank or drop down to T1 ammo and kite out beyond their missile range but that shouldn't be necessary (chances are, you may be able to afford to lose one of the hardeners). Use whatever drones you want.

Warp in to 100, keep closest BS at range 120km (increase anywhere up to 150km if their guns are hitting you) with perma-running AB. Take out farthest BSes first, leave the closest until last. Switch to Precision and prioritise Cruisers when they get to about 105km, then frigs and release drones when they are within drone range. Finish off remaining BSes.