Intergalactic Summit

Isn't it normal for Caldari to commit suicide after failing important charges or duties, to regain one's honor? That is what mister Tuulinen told me.

Maybe she did that?

Well played, Hakatain.

This is a thread where we should be celebrating one woman's decision to act to save lives instead of end them when placed in a situation where a catastrophic disaster was going to occur no matter what action she took. She deliberately chose - judging by the transcripts of Luminaire's local comms, chose against orders - to do what was necessary to minimize the loss of life when the Shiigeru impacted the surface.

She deserves far more than just a medal for her actions that day. Instead of killing the population on the surface, Caldari and Gallentean alike, she did everything in her power to minimize the damage from the inevitable result of the manner of the Shiigeru's destruction. Visera Yanala is a hero and should be treated with the respect she deserves.

Instead of doing that, Andreus, you are spewing conspiracy theories.

Whether they are well-founded or not is irrelevant; this not the appropriate place for them. Take them and get out.

I completely agree.

I have to admit that I am very glad to see that I am not the only one who is curious about Admiral Yanala's whereabouts, a discussion I raised before:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=219632

I do not however, hold the Admiral in as high esteem as some others here on this thread suggest. Indeed this particular Admiral's entire career has been entirely devoted to the advancement of the Cadari State at the expense of the Federation and in the process, killing thousands of our citizens. She and her family are at the epi-center of Caldari politics and intrigue. Just as surely as she gifted in the arts of naval warfare she is equally a war criminal who is overdue for justice.

I do not want to speculate on the volumes of conspiracy theories on all the holo-reels... except to say the absence of any news makes all the most fantastic seem probable. I am certain however, that a victorius Yanala would have been a far, far greater political threat to Caldari State Executor Tibus Heth than a failed Admiral Yanala. Was the Caldari fleet sent to its certain doom by your own Executor? I can only speculate at this point but I would certainly like to know.

And who would know besides Executor Heath? Why Yanala of course... and where is she? Like myself, she is an immortal. Her pod should have ejected on the destruction of the Shiigeru. If that were destroyed then she would have reappeared in a clone, presumably in Caldari space and equally presumably into Executor Heath's merciless hands... On the other hand could her pod have failed to eject and she still be in the Shiigeru?? A truly intriguing possibility!

I for one would like to find out! As soon as it is feasible I would acquire a Dust jump clone and lead an expedition to pull that wanted criminal out of her Shiigeru tomb to come back and face Gallente justice! A full public trial with all the names of those she has killed over the years read into the court record. Summon all the witnesses and review all the recorded history of this felon!

When she is found guilty... (as a rule we Gallente don't pre-judge the outcome of trials but where the evidence against someone is so overwhelming I will indulge myself here...)... she deserves a special prison. One just for her. I can think of no finer punishment to sentence an immortal to a lifetime... indeed an eternity in prison! Caged she will be... indefinitely.

Let justice be done.

Sorjat
Gallente Capsuleer.

The title of this thread is 'Where is Admiral Yanala?' The original comment is talking about her absence from public awareness.

If you think she's been murdered by Heth then this is exactly the thread to say as much.

I too was asking that question. Where is the Admiral?


Since Heth is proven to be nuts, and nuts of his sort and his provists are thuggish, we need a capsuleer-driven inquiry on to the whereabouts of Admiral Yanala. Remember that Admiral Yanala is a capsuleer like us, and apparently one who had a conscience, which is rare in our community. I can find a least a score of raging lunatics in any lowsec system who would have DD'ed Caldari prime "just to see something go boom" so we should not take Yanala's actions lightly.

Admiral Yanala is a hero as far as I am concerned. But I am not going to sit here and bask in honoring her deeds by just saying they were good deeds. Something stinks and if we want to support good deeds, we have to back them up. For when people make a stand and stand alone, we all lose.

We also have to take this into account: if Admiral Yanala was ordered to arm and use the weapon, she was dead the moment that order came in.

Think about it.

Disobey, and the madman giving the order will take revenge.

Obey it, and the madman giving the order would never take credit for it, for having moved to such a megalomaniacal scorched earth move like that. The madman would have to put all of the blame on the Admiral and say he never gave the order.

In either case, Admiral Yanala was a "loose end" that had to be gotten rid of. She must have known this the moment the order came in, and I don't doubt there was an order for it because no sane pilot could come up with the idea themselves.

Whatever happened, we can learn more by making public the need for a comment or confirmation of Admiral Yanala's status. If the Admiral never pops up again, then we know that there's no "conspiracy theory" abound. We will never even need to know exactly what happened, no matter how loud the statist cry for exact proof as they hide in their own denial (knowing exact proof will never come, being statists, they know it will never be delivered).

As far as I am concerned, Heth murdered Admiral Yanala. If there is more information or loose ends around any flight recorders or databases in the wreck, then more people are going to die.

It may be up to us to send in a team and get that recorder. I lack the resources to hire these ground mercs though, but I can send in orbital support - heck I'll do it myself. Are we going to just sit here and let the Navy recover those records only so long as it takes for the nearest provist to slit their throats?

SSTG Ballistica is going to be dispatched to Luminaire tonight for some creative scanning and maybe those Caldari marines hanging around in my hangar could use some exercise.

I will honor the actions of Admiral Yanala by taking action. If I am wrong, then let me pray to be wrong enough to tell her myself how wrong I was, and that would be the best outcome.

While in the Shiigeru's final moments Admiral Yanala's actions were honourable and deserving of high praise, her actions prior to that, and prior to the conflict with the Federal fleet were more questionable.

I hope the inquest is still ongoing and looks into the orders given to fire on the planet surface, as well as the destruction of Brigadier General Odo Korachi's Battleship after refusing a direct stand down order over potential violations of the Yulai convention.


If she's anywhere right now, personally I would hope in their questioning if necessary, if it is not, I hope she is enjoying a quiet retirement in solitude*.





*As in a state of uninterrupted tranquility, not the area of space. Who'd want to live in that hell hole? It breeds scum like Mentas Blaque.

Sorjat, how many thousands have you killed? You've been a capsuleer for years. Likely you've killed enough ships' crews to warrant being called a war criminal as well, by that thin justification you provide: being the enemy of a nation in New Eden.

Akahoshi-haani has covered this topic, but I couldn't help but marvel at it, as well.

If she is taken into custody and investigation is ongoing, then, I am afraid, they won't give her this chance.