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Joining the Amarr miltia - good idea?

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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2013-05-17 21:09:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
Is joining the Amarr militia a good idea?

That is the wrong question.

The right question is this: is it right to fight for God and His Empire, and in doing so protect the Amarrian way of life?

Answer that question and you will know what it is that you have to do.


Silas Vitalia wrote:

Or join PIE, you'll be running the place inside of a month.


You really should get that obsession of yours sorted out.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#22 - 2013-05-17 21:26:28 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:

You really should get that obsession of yours sorted out.


Make me.


Sabik now, Sabik forever

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#23 - 2013-05-17 21:50:03 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Kim Ji-Young wrote:
In my first couple of weeks of capsuleering I've made about 8 million ISK. I know that's nothing to you super-rich folks but personally I could easily just give up and go back planetside and retire on that. However, because I'm such a morally upstanding citizen, I feel the urge to do more for my society now that I'm in this position of power to generate far more income than I know what to do with.


Buy a Retriever.


A Retriever is about 25-30 million, unfitted. She has 8 million.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-05-17 23:41:59 UTC
Kim Ji-Young wrote:

1. How much of a threat is the minmatar forces, really?

As much as you can take. Analyzing and getting intel on targets before engagement is crucial to the success of operation.

Kim Ji-Young wrote:

2. If 1. is "not much", are more militia really needed? Would I be contributing meaningfully or just getting in the way? Is there somewhere else I could deploy myself more effectively? Or do we have the situation basically under control which means that I can go shopping for clothes and shoes and not worry?

Every effort counts. Even if you won't engage in direct combat with frontal and elite minmatar capsuleers, you can always help to patrol systems and defend Empire systems.

Kim Ji-Young wrote:

3. I've heard that many Amarr militia talk in strange dialects that an Amarr girl of polite society like myself wouldn't understand. Any truth in this? I don't want to rub shoulders with uncouth lower-class feral types who can't express themselves properly and drool excessively.

Indeed, military talk is somewhat hugely different from one of a polite society. Having experience in any military job before joining would be really helpful. Although it is really not that hard to learn it. You have ears to listen and brain to understand. And if it won't be enough, you can always ask.

Kim Ji-Young wrote:

4. I like the thought of helping the Empire but combat seems a bit icky. I can handle things blowing up in a ball of fire which would be kind of amazing actually but I don't want to see corpses depressurize, I think that would look gross. Am I forced to look at that? How much blood and guts is there?

Of course, when things are blowing up, it's not just metal, you see. But you don't have to watch at them, if you don't want to. Actually, in a combat situation you definitely shouldn't be looking at them. Your main concerns should be targets, orders, your and enemy formations. You should be aware of anything related that was happening around your ship. And someone's bowel that flies by is definitely not the thing you should concentrate your attention on. By being distracted on unrelated things you are risking losing important information and hesitation to act can cost your own, your crew and your fleet lives.

Kim Ji-Young wrote:
Also, does dying hurt? I'm not really into pain.

Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Kim Ji-Young
Ji Young Kim Bap
#25 - 2013-05-18 00:40:50 UTC
Wow, so many replies, I'm so popular!

Samira Kernher wrote:

It's not about selling it. It is not about what you want, it is about serving and defending the Empire.

If you are selfless enough to do so, then you should do so. But if you are not then you should not. I am merely telling you the reality of it.


I like the idea of serving the Empire but I just think exploded corpses are kind of gross. If one hits my window I swear I'm going to just freak right out if the guts are still hanging there when I dock.

Jenny Jupiter wrote:


Now that is funny.

I didn't think you guys had opinions.

I stand corrected.


While I'm at it, here's another opinion: those sunglasses really just aren't the right shape for your face.

Mra Rednu wrote:

Or start you're own corp and run it from day one.


I thought about that but I don't know anything about running my own corporation. Seems awfully complicated when other members get involved, or I could just do a corporation of one that is simple but what's the point of that, people who do solo corporations are just stroking it, aren't they. Easier to just keep my Institute membership going and get the bar discount.
Kim Ji-Young
Ji Young Kim Bap
#26 - 2013-05-18 00:53:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Kim Ji-Young
Liberty Roach wrote:
I hear militia work is well nasty, and half the time you undock, some joker's gonna blow you arse over ****.

On the other hand they got these militia lotteries where you win shiny navy ships, and you gets to hang around Amarrian blokes in uniform. So it can't be all bad.


Okay, starting to see the benefit.

Katran Luftschreck wrote:


Buy a Retriever.

You will be outnumbered three to one on a good day. Some will argue that's not the case based on enrollment numbers, but enrollment doesn't mean "active" and very, very few militia pilots are actually anymore. Those who are are either A) in massive fleet organizations that are very paranoid about taking in any new people/outsiders or B) still flying solo/small gang and getting constantly thumped due to the above mentioned bad odds.

So unless you've got an uncle or something in PIE then you can pretty much forget about being anything other than a cheap kill-mail for a gang of insufferably arrogant tribals.

The situation is basically screwed and that's exactly why you should just buy clothes.



Can't afford a retriever. I'll accept donations though. Although I'd rather have decent clothing than a retriever. Why is good clothes for capsuleers so hard to get around here, we're so powerful and influential, we should liberate a system with some decent clothing warehouses, it's beyond a joke how few clothes we can get, and how expensive they are, plus they mostly look skanky and out of date. What do they take us for.

Joining a corp in the warzone sounds like a good idea but they'll probably all hate me because...

Katran Luftschreck wrote:
All those of Amarrian Faith are Amarrian and don't you dare forget that.


...all these heavy Amarr folks take everything REALLY seriously and although I'm very loyal and diligent and pro-everything Amarr my sense of humour will probably rub them the wrong way and get me booted out and blacklisted within a week.

Katran Luftschreck wrote:
The Empire? No. New Eden? Yes. And only if by "take over" you mean "exterminate all non-Matari life." Their goal is utter & complete genocide, plain and simple, first of us and then eventually everyone else who isn't of "superior tribal blood."


Don't they know about how genetics are in DNA and not blood?
Kim Ji-Young
Ji Young Kim Bap
#27 - 2013-05-18 00:54:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Kim Ji-Young
Mra Rednu wrote:

You'll find the real knuckle draggers are those who fight to the last to defend Sahtogas, the window lickers on the other hand are the ones sat in Kamela station calling for help and failing to undock to defend their home system


Okay thank you. As a follow-up question what do you think the ratio is of knuckle-scraping halfwits, to "I can't undock I might scratch my paint on the side of the docking bay" to pilots who are actually decent?

Rodj Blake wrote:
Is joining the Amarr militia a good idea?

That is the wrong question.

The right question is this: is it right to fight for God and His Empire, and in doing so protect the Amarrian way of life?

Answer that question and you will know what it is that you have to do.


That is very profound. I find your answer very disturbing and uncomfortable to read because it's probably true and it always rattles me a bit when I don't have a comeback to something.
Kim Ji-Young
Ji Young Kim Bap
#28 - 2013-05-18 01:03:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Kim Ji-Young
Diana Kim wrote:

Every effort counts. Even if you won't engage in direct combat with frontal and elite minmatar capsuleers, you can always help to patrol systems and defend Empire systems.


That sounds like a nice non-threatening way to get into it. I'm sure I'd lose if I faced a pilot who knew what they were doing. What are the minmatar pilots like, are they basically competent? I imagine that they're quite good because it probably takes quite a lot of skill just to make those things they fly go in a straight line without bits falling off so I can only imagine how much more skilled a combat pilot who can actually win a battle has to be.

Diana Kim wrote:
military talk is somewhat hugely different from one of a polite society. Having experience in any military job before joining would be really helpful. Although it is really not that hard to learn it. You have ears to listen and brain to understand. And if it won't be enough, you can always ask.


Even the chatter on comms in Amarr is completely confounding. I think a lot of them are heavily boosted all the time, they talk as if they're not even in space at all but doing something completely different. Is the trauma of capsuleer life so intense that people have to be this heavily drugged to fly? Anyway I couldn't work out barely a thing they were on about.... and this was mainly trading pilots, how much worse the combat pilots must be.

Diana Kim wrote:
Your main concerns should be targets, orders, your and enemy formations. You should be aware of anything related that was happening around your ship. And someone's bowel that flies by is definitely not the thing you should concentrate your attention on. By being distracted on unrelated things you are risking losing important information and hesitation to act can cost your own, your crew and your fleet lives.


I'm sorry but if a bowel flies by my ship, that's totally going to bother me. I'm easily distracted like that. Seriously, minmatar could just load up a projectile cannon full of body parts and fire it at my windshield and I would be totally freaking out and no good in combat at all. Wow, I can't believe I just thought that up. Gross. Any minmatar reading, you didn't read this bit just now.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#29 - 2013-05-18 02:09:07 UTC
If you cannot stand the idea of violence then I suggest you look elsewhere for employment opportunities. This is war and it will take a part of your innocence and idealism away, if not most of it.

You are clearly not ready to delve into this aspect of capsuleerhood. I suggest you either leave the life now or ease into your inevitable fate and enjoy what you have left of your innocence now.

That said, militia work is not for the selfish. When you join the 24th Imperial Crusade you are not doing it for yourself, but for the peoples of the Amarr Empire. You are there to protect them, not your queasy stomach. If you cannot get over that fact then do not bother.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Kim Ji-Young
Ji Young Kim Bap
#30 - 2013-05-18 02:14:35 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
If you cannot stand the idea of violence then I suggest you look elsewhere for employment opportunities. This is war and it will take a part of your innocence and idealism away, if not most of it.

You are clearly not ready to delve into this aspect of capsuleerhood. I suggest you either leave the life now or ease into your inevitable fate and enjoy what you have left of your innocence now.

That said, militia work is not for the selfish. When you join the 24th Imperial Crusade you are not doing it for yourself, but for the peoples of the Amarr Empire. You are there to protect them, not your queasy stomach. If you cannot get over that fact then do not bother.


I don't mind other people dying, I just don't want to see their bits floating by. If they can die nice and cleanly with all the gooey parts neatly vapourised in the explosion then that would be convenient, and me and violence will get along just fine.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#31 - 2013-05-18 02:22:41 UTC
You will see bits.

You will also listen to your own crews as they die if you keep the internal comms on.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Kim Ji-Young
Ji Young Kim Bap
#32 - 2013-05-18 02:39:46 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
You will see bits.

You will also listen to your own crews as they die if you keep the internal comms on.


Shocked

Hello veldspar my old friend...
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#33 - 2013-05-18 02:43:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Aldrith Shutaq
Glad to see you made the right choice.

There is no shame in taking the path of peace. In fact, it is rather preferable. We fight so that the innocent such as yourself do not have to. I would not like to see a gun forced into your hand when you can devote your life to such better causes.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Heinel Coventina
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-05-18 02:50:28 UTC
If you want to help the war efforts but don't want to shoot, consider managing the supply lines. There are many different kinds of opportunities to make a difference.
Kim Ji-Young
Ji Young Kim Bap
#35 - 2013-05-18 02:53:33 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
Glad to see you made the right choice.

There is no shame in taking the path of peace. In fact, it is rather preferable. We fight so that the innocent such as yourself do not have to. I would not like to see a gun forced into your hand when you can devote your life to such better causes.


Okay, peace and love, that's what I'm all about from now on.

See how nice PIE are, everybody, the nice man talked me into being peaceful and not shooting anyone.

Just as well anyway. I've just been told there's some sort of technical problem with my clone and it may not work at all (!) so dying isn't really something I want to do right now. Gosh.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#36 - 2013-05-18 02:56:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Aldrith Shutaq
Mr. Coventina is quite right. You should consider contacting me when you have the chance. I will introduce you to who and what you need to take part in the greater Amarrian loyalist bloc and perhaps begin to supply us with materials.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Sepherim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2013-05-18 03:20:03 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
Mr. Coventina is quite right. You should consider contacting me when you have the chance. I will introduce you to who and what you need to take part in the greater Amarrian loyalist bloc and perhaps begin to supply us with materials.


Yes, ships and materials are always needed in the frontlines. It's a valuable help and a honorable way to serve the Empire. Not all are fit to fight the enemy and submerge in the horror of war, and it's good that as many as possible don't have to do it. As the old adage says "when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back at you". Some people can't hold the stare, and even those of us who do, it changes us forever. So, if you are not sure that's your path, then don't take it. There's always time to do it later on.

Sepherim Catillah Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Liuteneant Ex-Imperial Navy Imperator Commander

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#38 - 2013-05-18 07:16:15 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:

You really should get that obsession of yours sorted out.


Make me.




But it's my attention that you crave!

Making you do anything would simply make your illness worse.

I suggest you find a good therapist instead.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Sixx Vicious
Blue Canary
Watch This
#39 - 2013-05-18 13:50:13 UTC
Lysander Fairewell wrote:
Sixx Vicious wrote:
Kim Ji-Young wrote:


I think there's room for everybody in the galaxy.


The Federation could use someone like you.



Yes, the Federation thinks there's room for everybody in the galaxy.

As long as the Federation are the one's in charge of it all.


Pot, kettle, black.

Hawk style Thukk Life.

Cipher7
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2013-05-18 15:11:29 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Kim Ji-Young wrote:
Is it the minimatar intention to take over the entire Empire, or just the dirty bits that look like the same colour as your ships?


The Empire? No. New Eden? Yes. And only if by "take over" you mean "exterminate all non-Matari life." Their goal is utter & complete genocide, plain and simple, first of us and then eventually everyone else who isn't of "superior tribal blood."


What is "tribal blood."

Families are adopted into the clans and tribes all the time (yes, even Amarrians.)

Naturally we think our way of life is better, but no, we're not looking to "exterminate" other peoples as some kind of "master race" imperative.

That's your culture, not ours.

7 Matari tribes each have different appearance, features, etc.

So which of us is the "superior tribal blood" then hmm?
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