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GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 584
Nex apparatu5 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 584	#21 - 2013-05-17 17:34:20 UTC Expect buffs across the board, except to T3s and capitals. Expect T3s to get anywhere from minor buffs (Legion, unused subsystems) to heavy nerfs (Tengu), caps will get nerfed, and supers/titans will get nerfhammered into the ground.

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stoicfaux Likes received: 6,283	#22 - 2013-05-17 17:34:41 UTC Freighters with slots and rigs. Why? because freighters are too predictable which is a limiting factor in light of CCP's let's get more peeps into low/null sec. /IMHO. Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 698
Stegas Tyrano Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation Likes received: 698	#23 - 2013-05-17 17:35:33 UTC Do Marauders have any sort of PVP role? It feels wrong having ships in EVE that can't PVP. Herping your derp since 19Potato - [url=https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2403364][Proposal] - Ingame Visual Adverts[/url]

Bat Country Pandemic Horde 19,001
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Horde Likes received: 19,001	#24 - 2013-05-17 17:35:59 UTC \| Edited by: baltec1 Nex apparatu5 wrote: Expect buffs across the board, except to T3s and capitals. Expect T3s to get anywhere from minor buffs (Legion, unused subsystems) to heavy nerfs (Tengu), caps will get nerfed, and supers/titans will get nerfhammered into the ground. All t3s will be nerfed so they can fill their role as cruisers not battleships.


baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Horde Likes received: 19,001	#25 - 2013-05-17 17:36:41 UTC Stegas Tyrano wrote: Do Marauders have any sort of PVP role? It feels wrong having ships in EVE that can't PVP. They work great untill ECM happens

Burseg Sardaukar

Free State Project

Likes received: 363

#26 - 2013-05-17 17:37:44 UTC

I'd love to see interceptors with specialties towards their role, maybe really unique bonuses.

One of which should be warp acceleration, so the ships can get to max warp speed faster than any other plus warp drive speed per level.
The other should be resistance to scrams (like MWD strength bonus, for instance) and/or webs.

This would bring them into a specialized role instead of really fast AF's or the like.

Can't wait to dual box my Dust toon and EVE toon on the same machine!

Shadow Industries I 507
Shadow Lord77 Shadow Industries I Likes received: 507	#27 - 2013-05-17 20:21:09 UTC Capital ships bitches! Also tune cyno costs to be 10x or so of what they are now.

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Adunh Slavy Likes received: 1,639	#28 - 2013-05-17 20:35:15 UTC Danni stark wrote: it'll be the industrials, and they're doing a similar thing to mining barges. so it'll be ****, and fail horribly. Hope not. Industrials have a lot of potential to be something more than just hauling ships. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

Danni stark

Likes received: 490

#29 - 2013-05-17 20:40:49 UTC | Edited by: Danni stark

Adunh Slavy wrote:

Danni stark wrote:

it'll be the industrials, and they're doing a similar thing to mining barges.

so it'll be ****, and fail horribly.

Hope not. Industrials have a lot of potential to be something more than just hauling ships.

well.. here.

CCP Ytterbium wrote:

We're changing the skill requirements for Industrials as with all other ships for Odyssey.

However, the roles / attributes themselves will have to stay as they are for a while longer - we initially planed for them to go in the expansion as well, but they slipped out due to lack of time.

Tech1 Industrial overhaul has a high priority on our balanc-o-meter though - once battleships are updated, they'll be the last tech1 sub-capital hulls that need to go through the Tiericide fires.

Plans we have for them so far is to have the same kind of treatment than we've done with the Mining Barges. Have one Industrial variation with good mobility, low EHP and low cargo for quickly moving things around, another with low mobility, low EHP and high cargo for bulk transport and the last one with good defenses but poor mobility / cargo to compensate.

Which of course poses a problem with Gallente industrials and their 5 variations - as CCP Fozzie keeps saying all the time, if all else fail we'll shuffle the last two unused Iteron variations to have a dedicated bay for Spiced Wine and Exoctic Dancers

Ice Mining Skill Plan.

Black Mount Industrial Breakpoint. 195
Praetor Meles Black Mount Industrial Breakpoint. Likes received: 195	#30 - 2013-05-17 20:43:42 UTC Nero Synapse wrote: Bored, Just thought I would stir the pot and ask what types of ships others would want to see/think will be rebalanced next? Shuttles. Rebalance shuttles. [insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving* delete as required to make your point

The Scope 941
YuuKnow The Scope Likes received: 941	#31 - 2013-05-17 20:52:18 UTC The entirity of the cap ship fleet and the 'endgame' is the elephant in the room. And probably a big reason that a lot of player (myself included) don't bother with null-sec. Cap warfare = yawn. yk

Throktar

Deep Core Mining Inc.

Likes received: 38

#32 - 2013-05-17 21:06:00 UTC | Edited by: Throktar

Stegas Tyrano wrote:

Do Marauders have any sort of PVP role? It feels wrong having ships in EVE that can't PVP.

Go watch a few Alliance Tournaments or the Sydicate Competitive League. They dominate in pvp if the situations are correct. I just think the price is what holds most folks back from using them in pvp. Same reason as most faction battleships aren't used as cannon fodder to the blob.

I can't wait for a Marauder buff. They will not get nerfed. I do think that they should be the dominate PvE ship of them all.

I also think Black Ops should be broken into subclasses, one focused on bridging the other on cloaky BS PvP.

I also would love to see all BS get about a 30% ehp buff accross the board. I still think the gap between BS and Dread EHP should be slightly closer.

Edit: I know these are dreams, but hey we can still hope right? lol

The Troll Bridge 23,523
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge Likes received: 23,523	#33 - 2013-05-17 21:36:41 UTC Will the DSTs be fixed? Will my Occator be useful once again? These things and more, Next on Winter Expansion. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*

Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 139
Khemax Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 139	#34 - 2013-05-17 21:39:05 UTC I honestly would like to see all the various battleships sized vessels get rebalanced and rethought, to come more into line with the current state of the game Black Ops and Marauders could do with a few adjustments

Doomheim 478
EvEa Deva Doomheim Likes received: 478	#35 - 2013-05-17 22:27:20 UTC Ill guess a navy drake nerf, normal drake nerf, and they will nerf the rapper drake, Just in case.