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Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-05-17 05:16:11 UTC
If you're a really, really odd person and pack a webber modules on your dominix you can slow down anything that gets too close to you. I believe True Sansha webbers hit 15km with a 55% speed reduction. On top of that IIRC a dominix, post-Odyssey, with three omni links will have garde IIs out with tracking speeds of something like 3.9xx which is, I believe, faster than even small ACs can track.

Honestly, I'm not seeing that damage application for the dominix will be much of an issue. The hyperion or megathron (if you have 3 sentries out to augment long-range DPS on the megathron) yeah, and if you fit your typhoon with artillery for some silly reason it'll have issues too, but the dominix's tracking bonus looks really damn good.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#22 - 2013-05-17 06:44:16 UTC
Shereza wrote:
with three omni links will have garde IIs out with tracking speeds of something like 3.9xx which is, I believe, faster than even small ACs can track.


Please factor in sig radius and sig resolution.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-05-17 07:01:19 UTC
Snyderm wrote:
Just looking at a potential setup:

Hyperion, Serpentis Level 4


Mate, don't try get your ship capstable and gimp the fit. Just replace all those cap mods/rigs with something useful like a cap booster,webs,aerator 2s etc.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Crellion
Nano Rhinos
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#24 - 2013-05-17 07:03:40 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Shereza wrote:
with three omni links will have garde IIs out with tracking speeds of something like 3.9xx which is, I believe, faster than even small ACs can track.


Please factor in sig radius and sig resolution.

-Liang


True but still new Domi boni and Garde and 1-2 Omnis = omg 0_o

Though for PvE I d be tempted to make do with the tracking and range buff of the ship and use my mids for a shield tank. Then pack 3 mag stabs 3 dda2s and a dcu in the lows and rly profit. I havent actually bothered to eft it but it has the distinct smell of pownsauce...
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#25 - 2013-05-17 08:26:36 UTC
Crellion wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
Shereza wrote:
with three omni links will have garde IIs out with tracking speeds of something like 3.9xx which is, I believe, faster than even small ACs can track.


Please factor in sig radius and sig resolution.

-Liang


True but still new Domi boni and Garde and 1-2 Omnis = omg 0_o

Though for PvE I d be tempted to make do with the tracking and range buff of the ship and use my mids for a shield tank. Then pack 3 mag stabs 3 dda2s and a dcu in the lows and rly profit. I havent actually bothered to eft it but it has the distinct smell of pownsauce...


You can shield tank a Domi but you need quite a fair bit of pimp to get a decent 3-slot shield tank if you want to retain 2 Omnis, with a full t2 armor fit, you can pack 3 Omnis, a Tracking Computer (or 2-2 if you prefer), 3 DDAs, and a damage rig of choice (burst aerator adds more than a sentry damage augmentor), so it's much easier to armor tank it.

If you want to go shield fit, the N.Domi does it better with extra mid and more fitting, it also still gets the hybrid bonus so theres more reason to get more out of your guns.
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-05-17 09:11:57 UTC
Given the responses doing a late edit on my previous post would be wasted. I goofed on the numbers. The 3.9 tracking speed was for warrior IIs. Garde IIs will hit around .093885 tracking with 3 T2 omni links.

Liang Nuren wrote:
Please factor in sig radius and sig resolution.

-Liang


Readers of what I've posted should feel free to do so, but I see no reason to do so myself until/unless I attempt to apply the tracking values to "real world" calculations. Since I did not do so in that post there was no reason to include target signature radius or drone signature resolution. The worst I did was (erroneously) compare them to small ACs in terms of tracking speed.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#27 - 2013-05-17 14:28:24 UTC
Shereza wrote:
Given the responses doing a late edit on my previous post would be wasted. I goofed on the numbers. The 3.9 tracking speed was for warrior IIs. Garde IIs will hit around .093885 tracking with 3 T2 omni links.

Liang Nuren wrote:
Please factor in sig radius and sig resolution.

-Liang


Readers of what I've posted should feel free to do so, but I see no reason to do so myself until/unless I attempt to apply the tracking values to "real world" calculations. Since I did not do so in that post there was no reason to include target signature radius or drone signature resolution. The worst I did was (erroneously) compare them to small ACs in terms of tracking speed.


That's more like Medium Pulse laser tracking which is pretty damn impressive for something which pumps out 800 dps to 70km, even though the shots do have 400m3 sig res you can still pop frigs easily.

It got me thinking though, maybe I should go for 2 omnis and 2 painters instead of 3 omnis and 1 tc for better application to cruisers, helps the rails too.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#28 - 2013-05-17 14:59:36 UTC
Shereza wrote:
Given the responses doing a late edit on my previous post would be wasted. I goofed on the numbers. The 3.9 tracking speed was for warrior IIs. Garde IIs will hit around .093885 tracking with 3 T2 omni links.

Liang Nuren wrote:
Please factor in sig radius and sig resolution.

-Liang


Readers of what I've posted should feel free to do so, but I see no reason to do so myself until/unless I attempt to apply the tracking values to "real world" calculations. Since I did not do so in that post there was no reason to include target signature radius or drone signature resolution. The worst I did was (erroneously) compare them to small ACs in terms of tracking speed.


Tracking speed without sig resolution is a completely useless metric. It literally means nothing.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#29 - 2013-05-17 15:22:52 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Shereza wrote:
Given the responses doing a late edit on my previous post would be wasted. I goofed on the numbers. The 3.9 tracking speed was for warrior IIs. Garde IIs will hit around .093885 tracking with 3 T2 omni links.

Liang Nuren wrote:
Please factor in sig radius and sig resolution.

-Liang


Readers of what I've posted should feel free to do so, but I see no reason to do so myself until/unless I attempt to apply the tracking values to "real world" calculations. Since I did not do so in that post there was no reason to include target signature radius or drone signature resolution. The worst I did was (erroneously) compare them to small ACs in terms of tracking speed.


Tracking speed without sig resolution is a completely useless metric. It literally means nothing.

-Liang


Then again it's literally the only meaningful component when comparing the tracking of turrets of the same class.

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