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Forming a K-space based WH raiding group

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Haunting Widow
Honor Forge
Joint Operation Involving Nobodys
#1 - 2013-05-16 19:59:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Haunting Widow
I'm interested in forming a WH-raiding group, not requiring same-corp/alliance memberships and the like, but just a group of players interested in running into WHs together to make profit and kill ****. Idea is currently to have some form of widely available smart-phone contact like gtalk, twitter or whatsapp to coordinate events and check who's available to run what when someone finds a WH and is looking for some help either farming or PWNing what/whoever is inside.

If you're interested post below (to keep the thread current and show others what interest there is) and send me an eve-mail with a short tidbit about yourself. Looking for skilled competent pilots who want to work as a team to achieve some pretty big stuff like Mountains of ISK, POS Bashing and lots of fun Kill Mails :)

What else you do in EVE is not relevant to me, just looking for people who want to have some fun in WHs without having to live in them.

Edit: Decided to give out in-game channel: Flying Naked
Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-05-16 22:52:55 UTC
More day trippers in WH space are always welcome :)

I mean honestly, what could possibly go wrong?

Cheers,

Sith

Resident forum troll and fashion consultant

Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#3 - 2013-05-17 00:44:18 UTC
Start a new channel ...like bomber bar but for wh diving!

"WH Divers" idk if thats taken but im sure you could come up with something more catchy Big smile
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-05-17 01:43:47 UTC
nice idea mate
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#5 - 2013-05-17 03:35:06 UTC
The old B274 coalition did this with a number of alliances. Get in touch with Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork and their friends if you'd like some tips.

http://www.wormholes.info

Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#6 - 2013-05-17 03:43:33 UTC
I endorse this product and/or service

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7

grassy 420
Anoikis Equilibrium
Honorable Third Party
#7 - 2013-05-17 04:36:16 UTC
indeed I think us wh peeps would love to see more kspace people trying to fly around!

+1
Jess Tanner
Bangworks Systems Inc.
#8 - 2013-05-17 08:20:21 UTC
Jita GnaGna
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-05-17 08:38:44 UTC
could only end well Twisted
Haunting Widow
Honor Forge
Joint Operation Involving Nobodys
#10 - 2013-05-17 09:06:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Haunting Widow
Hehe, yes I know that most empies suddenly turning to WHs usually ends in lots of laughs, more than a few exploding ships, lost pilots and self-destructed pods.

I'm no stranger to WHs, my first kill ever in EvE took place in a C2 on 2010-02-24. I have spent a LOT of time in WHs and ran a corporation that settled into a C4 for some time and built a carrier there. I had to give it up years ago for the sake of furthering my education but the point is, I'll be watching my ass/dscan and taking precautions in general to ensure we make more than we lose, and we will probably lose, the point is to make it all worth it, and fun :)

I would expect if there are enough pilots in attendance to have multiple points, and various forms of ewar spread throughout the fleet to make us more flexible when it comes to responding to PvP situations on the fly.

I do have a channel setup, just wanted to get some interest brewing before I started landing people there and was wondering if anyone had a suggestion for a cross-platform instant message-type app for quickly updating team members of any potential raiding to be done as WHs and targets are discovered.

And thanks for all the comments so far, this is an idea I've been wanting to do for a LONG time, I've removed other distractions so I can concentrate on this even if I have to solo the first few WHs I find. I have around 57mil SP, some FC experience, null and WH pvp experience, and this is what I really want to do with my time in EVE now.

So, post below, send me a mail, who's interested?!

Edit: Decided to give out in-game channel: Flying Naked
Saheed Cha'chris'ra
Krautz WH Exploration and Production
#11 - 2013-05-17 09:23:22 UTC
My Corp and me are living in a WH actually, but i like your idea. I would join your channel, maybe to give targets i found myself, or to join your events from time to time, and just to blow things up. WH Life is sometimes pretty boring, more pew is never a bad idea.

But: Are you actually talking about sieging POSses in Wormholes to get their loot? This would mean that you need an own POS in the wormhole you are attacking, and you have to give bluestandings to everyone joining your "event" to be able to get them in your POS, etc etc. Could cause some problems.
Haunting Widow
Honor Forge
Joint Operation Involving Nobodys
#12 - 2013-05-17 09:32:37 UTC
Saheed Cha'chris'ra wrote:
My Corp and me are living in a WH actually, but i like your idea. I would join your channel, maybe to give targets i found myself, or to join your events from time to time, and just to blow things up. WH Life is sometimes pretty boring, more pew is never a bad idea.

But: Are you actually talking about sieging POSses in Wormholes to get their loot? This would mean that you need an own POS in the wormhole you are attacking, and you have to give bluestandings to everyone joining your "event" to be able to get them in your POS, etc etc. Could cause some problems.


If we were serious about seeking loot from a POS Bash, I would definitely consider placing a POS in the system depending on that systems static connections, if it's close enough to empire I'd just recommend cloaks or jumping to empire to regroup when the RI timer expires and be ready for the finishing touch, move in en-mass, kick ass, and bring hauling ships.
Meytal
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-05-17 12:15:02 UTC
Haunting Widow wrote:
Saheed Cha'chris'ra wrote:
My Corp and me are living in a WH actually, but i like your idea. I would join your channel, maybe to give targets i found myself, or to join your events from time to time, and just to blow things up. WH Life is sometimes pretty boring, more pew is never a bad idea.

But: Are you actually talking about sieging POSses in Wormholes to get their loot? This would mean that you need an own POS in the wormhole you are attacking, and you have to give bluestandings to everyone joining your "event" to be able to get them in your POS, etc etc. Could cause some problems.


If we were serious about seeking loot from a POS Bash, I would definitely consider placing a POS in the system depending on that systems static connections, if it's close enough to empire I'd just recommend cloaks or jumping to empire to regroup when the RI timer expires and be ready for the finishing touch, move in en-mass, kick ass, and bring hauling ships.

As much as I absolutely salivate at the thought of more targets in W-space, please understand that more often than not, you won't get much "loot" from bashing a POS. You are better off spending your time running the sites unless you're bored. The occasional stront-tests do sometimes work out :)
Durzel
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#14 - 2013-05-17 12:23:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Durzel
Way back when there used to be a "wormhole plunderers" group (and channels) for this sort of thing, but this was mainly when wormholes were still a bit of an unknown quantity. Nowadays with membership of various wormhole-focused corps and alliances being much higher I'm not sure how effective something like this would be.

Back then it worked great, was effective and was surprisingly free of backstabbing. I flew some ridiculously pimp stuff with various guys from Genos, AHARM, korpa pyco, Adhocracy and others, often with them in pimped stuff too, on various occasions and never experienced any traps, etc - so it can work.

I'd wager nowadays though with many of the entities above able to field fleets that can deal with most random encounters themselves you'd either find that there wouldn't be much sharing of targets, but I'm a bit of a pessimist.

It was cool to see motley crew killmails though. :)
Janus Nanzikambe
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#15 - 2013-05-17 12:32:14 UTC
Nathan Jameson wrote:
The old B274 coalition did this with a number of alliances. Get in touch with Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork and their friends if you'd like some tips.


It's pretty easy. Form a loose collective of people, gather them in a channel. And whenever someone finds a system with pilots in space or looking like they might be convinced to leave their FF you send in bait/tackle and have a gang standing by a jump out.

There're problems with this approach though. People in systems with kspace connections typically watch them + the risk averse will quickly check killboards and see that engagements typically end up with a multi-corp hammer smacking down on them. So other than ganking the foolhardy you're quickly limited to small scale engagements that very rarely escalate. You'll also spend a lot of time burning around empire only to be blueballed. The groups involved will quickly grow to be carebear heavy as victims seek "protection" by association, which lead mostly to fleets being formed to kill a ratting drake in someone's home system that they should be able to kill themselves.

Better alternatives are to roll a wormholes static repeatedly (very easy even in lower class WHs) to find backdoor unscouted routes into an active system or logging off a heavily tanked prober t3 in system with good/active targets. The t3 then logs in early in the day, scans the exit and remains hidden waiting for an opportunity to tackle something to force escalation.

As Nathan points out we no longer do this, you can only kill so many drakes before it grows boring. We are now strictly NRDS and attempting to regain our honour so we can join the mighty CVA in defence of Providence & all things Amarr.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#16 - 2013-05-17 12:46:08 UTC
Janus Nanzikambe wrote:
As Nathan points out we no longer do this, you can only kill so many drakes before it grows boring. We are now strictly NRDS and attempting to regain our honour so we can join the mighty CVA in defence of Providence & all things Amarr.


Oh you.

http://www.wormholes.info

Vincent Gaines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-05-17 12:52:53 UTC
Please do this. Do you have a public chan? I'll be sure to let you know where there are some good k-space exits.. I mean, entries.... whatever.

Not a diplo. 

The above post was edited for spelling.

Bei ArtJay
Side Kicks
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#18 - 2013-05-17 14:41:23 UTC
Nathan Jameson wrote:
The old B274 coalition did this with a number of alliances. Get in touch with Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork and their friends if you'd like some tips.


To clarify, unlike what OP is suggesting, our Alliance's corps actually lived in wormholes (for the most part) and didn't base form K-Space. It was a pretty casual affair where we jumped out of our WH's and burnt across the galaxy to aid our buddies much the same us many other blue blobs (although we were relatively small compared to entities like Talocan). Easy to do when most of your statics are B274s, more tricky if they are H296s, hence the name.

If I had to give you one tip in your endeavour - don't advertise publicly, hand pick people or let your channel evolve naturally for your channel. Oh wait...
Rengas
AQUILA INC
#19 - 2013-05-17 15:04:06 UTC
Haunting Widow wrote:
...to achieve some pretty big stuff like POS Bashing...


Sign me up for the fun m8.
Lindsay en Gravonere
An Errant Venture
#20 - 2013-05-17 15:47:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Lindsay en Gravonere
Why not form a a W-space-based K-space raiding coalition? Lol
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