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Amarr Gnosis
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Caecus Dei
Bishop.
#1 - 2013-05-17 01:25:35 UTC
Any good fits for a amarr pilot with low sp?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-17 01:52:49 UTC
amarr+ low sp dont go well together

try training missiles until you go for t2 pulses

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#3 - 2013-05-17 03:15:31 UTC
Sell the Gnosis, fit twenty cruisers or fifty destroyers for that price.

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Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#4 - 2013-05-17 03:16:14 UTC
Just go for it man!

Get the biggest guns you can fit on it and add more dps and tank all you can.

Go be the guy in the awsome meta 4 gnosis with no sp kicking massive ass!

If you are amarr training then make it armor fit. I personally prefer shields.
Lets you get in more Damage modules.

Meta 4 your perfect fit and just train all related skills to L3.
You'll be one crazy noob going balls out!
Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#5 - 2013-05-17 06:43:39 UTC
Ireland VonVicious wrote:
Just go for it man!

Get the biggest guns you can fit on it and add more dps and tank all you can.

Go be the guy in the awsome meta 4 gnosis with no sp kicking massive ass!

If you are amarr training then make it armor fit. I personally prefer shields.
Lets you get in more Damage modules.

Meta 4 your perfect fit and just train all related skills to L3.
You'll be one crazy noob going balls out!


This is, by far, the worst advice in this thread. However, this is eve, and stupid decisions are like half the fun in this game. So I say do it, and just make sure you can afford to replace it.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-05-17 07:02:22 UTC
Garresh wrote:
Ireland VonVicious wrote:
Just go for it man!

Get the biggest guns you can fit on it and add more dps and tank all you can.

Go be the guy in the awsome meta 4 gnosis with no sp kicking massive ass!

If you are amarr training then make it armor fit. I personally prefer shields.
Lets you get in more Damage modules.

Meta 4 your perfect fit and just train all related skills to L3.
You'll be one crazy noob going balls out!


This is, by far, the worst advice in this thread. However, this is eve, and stupid decisions are like half the fun in this game. So I say do it, and just make sure you can afford to replace it.

Heard of sarcasm? Yeah, thought not.

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Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#7 - 2013-05-17 07:03:16 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
Mean, mean words.


I gave his post a Like... Lol

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Mister Tuggles
Heretic Army
Sedition.
#8 - 2013-05-17 09:39:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Mister Tuggles
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Sell the Gnosis, fit twenty cruisers or fifty destroyers for that price.



This.

From what I have seen the Gnosis is pretty much just an entry level exploration ship that allows low SP toons to have an "all in one" explorer before they spend the few weeks training a t3 up.
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-05-17 14:27:03 UTC
You might be able to fit 20 cruisers for the 90m or so you could get for selling a gnosis, but you'd have to have the 120m minimum to buy those 20 Amarr cruisers first. If you posit 4.5m to fit a cruiser and 6m to buy an arbitrator or augoror you'll get 9, maybe 10 cruisers purchased and fitted for selling one gnosis.

Just figured I'd do the overly analytical thing for the people who have a hard time reading hyperbole and exaggeration in on-line text.
Ginger Barbarella
#10 - 2013-05-17 15:51:27 UTC
Caecus Dei wrote:
Any good fits for a amarr pilot with low sp?


Ignore the haterz and purist morons (20 cruisers? uh-huh) and just do what you want to do. Gnosis is perfectly viable, although harder than most for low-skill lazors. Just fit best meta weps you can, use faction ammo, AB, tank it so you don't gobble up your cap, and fit the best damage mods you can. Tank for opponent, use drones for opponent (I'd use lights so you have extras in reserve). If you have the money, use navy drones for the added armor.

Load it up in EFT (is Gnosis in EFT yet?) and see what looks right for you and your skills.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-05-17 16:07:34 UTC
Garresh wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
Mean, mean words.


I gave his post a Like... Lol

Aw, c'mon I wasn't THAT mean :)

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Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-05-17 17:27:48 UTC
Projectiles + EMP rounds, cap issues solved
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#13 - 2013-05-18 02:47:30 UTC
Gnosis is in the newest e.f.t. version.

I was being serious about go kick butt in this ship.

It only has 2 good qualities for the isk if you are actually going to fly it.

One being it's the only BC that is good for complexes. (( Mainly for Gurista pilots ))
The other being to use by a toon with no spaceship command skills yet.

This means if you are a very young toon looking to try out some complexes this could be a good ship.


Example for Amarr pilot:

Meta 4 everything:

dc
2x med reps
2x eanm's
reactive armor hardner

10mn ab
TC
4x cap recharger

5 heavy beam lasers
core probe launcher

3x cap rig

5x vespa
5x hornet

Get all related skills up to L3 as stated in previous post.
I'd get your drones up to T2 once you have all the L3's trained.

Make sure to bring scripts for your TC.
Bring standard ammo to help with cap. (( Faction preferred ))


I personally prefer the gurista version. Missles/Drones/Shields.
Lets you pick damage type and can use the lows for more dps.

When you compare Gurista version of this ship faction fit compared to tengu you will see that they are on par.
The only difference is the tengu can get into the cruiser size complexes. The Gnosis can use drones to salvage!
For those who are already trained Gurista you can use the gila for cruiser size complexes.


Now go be that kick ass noob!
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#14 - 2013-05-18 05:49:08 UTC
Shereza wrote:
You might be able to fit 20 cruisers for the 90m or so you could get for selling a gnosis, but you'd have to have the 120m minimum to buy those 20 Amarr cruisers first. If you posit 4.5m to fit a cruiser and 6m to buy an arbitrator or augoror you'll get 9, maybe 10 cruisers purchased and fitted for selling one gnosis.

Just figured I'd do the overly analytical thing for the people who have a hard time reading hyperbole and exaggeration in on-line text.



Gnoses were able to be sold to buy orders for 210m when I posted that. Now they have settled in price somewhat.

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Voith
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-05-18 06:06:26 UTC
The 20 Amarr Cruisers talking is irrelevant.

You only need one Arbitrator.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#16 - 2013-05-18 07:17:36 UTC
Odd, I kited mine out as an exploration ship. Seemed rather obvious.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-05-18 09:44:37 UTC
Seems good for newbs to use they can focus on training core skills which will help in any ship they fly

Its as if they are flying a BC with BC V already.. granted it may be more equivalent to the old tier 1 BCs than the new "tiericided" BCs
Ginger Barbarella
#18 - 2013-05-18 19:42:56 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Odd, I kited mine out as an exploration ship. Seemed rather obvious.


I built one as a high-sec exploration boat, too... But some people don't go that route, so whatever works. Smile

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2013-05-18 20:41:15 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Shereza wrote:
You might be able to fit 20 cruisers for the 90m or so you could get for selling a gnosis, but you'd have to have the 120m minimum to buy those 20 Amarr cruisers first. If you posit 4.5m to fit a cruiser and 6m to buy an arbitrator or augoror you'll get 9, maybe 10 cruisers purchased and fitted for selling one gnosis.

Just figured I'd do the overly analytical thing for the people who have a hard time reading hyperbole and exaggeration in on-line text.



Gnoses were able to be sold to buy orders for 210m when I posted that. Now they have settled in price somewhat.


No they weren't, but nice attempt to save face.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#20 - 2013-05-19 05:40:50 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
I built one as a high-sec exploration boat, too... But some people don't go that route, so whatever works. Smile


I know but it still seemed obvious: This was a ship designed with the equivalent of L5 skill bonuses in several areas - including scanning. Without one dot of any ship skill you still had the scanning bonus of someone in a Magnate with L5 frigate skill. As a mission runner it was... well, ok I guess, but I already better ships for that job. And as for lowsec... yeah, like I'm going to take "limited edition" zero-BPO ship into lowsec. It's only real downside as a hisec explorer is that, as a battlecruiser, it can't get into the really tiny sites (but they're usually pretty worthless to start with so not a big deal).

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
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