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PVP Hurricane, Shield or Armor, active or passive
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Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#21 - 2013-05-16 10:21:52 UTC
Tinu Moorhsum wrote:
I haven't EFT'd a hurricane in a long time but if you're looking for an active fit one try this

highs:
- 425mm autocannons,
- medium meta-4 neut
mids:
- large ancillary shield booter (don't forget cap charges),
- warp disruptor (I may be inclined to try a scram because no web, especially if baiting)
- 10mn mwd
- invul
lows:
- 3x gryo
- shield power relay
- tracking enhancer
- damage control
rigs:
3x field extender

quick EFT of that gives you a fit with (if you use heat) round about 750dps , an EHP a bit over 40k and tanks about 370dps actively (overloaded). You'll probably need a 1% cpu implant. I'm not "Mr. Perfect" when it comes to fitting ships but to my way of thinking, for baiting randoms for 1:1 brawling I think this fit would tear a hole in the one you were using before and it would have enough staying power, as long as you didn't run out of cap boosters, to give any BC or smaller sized ship a good solid fight.


Id prefer to use a t2 large shield booster, would that work over the Ancillary?
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#22 - 2013-05-16 10:39:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tinu Moorhsum
Quote:

Id prefer to use a t2 large shield booster, would that work over the Ancillary?


You can make it fit with a better implant and/or a bit of tweeking but it doesn't tank as well and it caps out too fast for my taste.

I should also say, on second reading that you might be better off with 2 buffer rigs and one anti-em rig with the hurricane.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-05-16 15:28:21 UTC
Should never fit a large ASB when XL can fit on BC hulls. Sure you might have to downgrade to 220s (debatable whether they are a downgrade, they have excellent tracking) but it is a significant tank upgrade compared to the large.

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Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#24 - 2013-05-16 16:19:59 UTC
Thanks guys, if you cant post those active fits, please do. Id like to see the X-L booster one
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#25 - 2013-05-16 16:45:20 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Should never fit a large ASB when XL can fit on BC hulls. Sure you might have to downgrade to 220s (debatable whether they are a downgrade, they have excellent tracking) but it is a significant tank upgrade compared to the large.


What you're suggesting is certainly a viable fit.

With the large you have better dps but less tank and with the XL you have better tank and less dps.

On paper it looks to me like the better fit will depend on what you attack with it. For example, if you attack a drake then having a bigass tank isn't really the main concern. The drake is a tanky ship with weak dps so you'd be better off with the Large fit.

If you attack a brutix, however, you might win more often with the XL fit. Either way the golden rule of choosing targets wisely is going to apply.

So to my way of thinking they're both viable fits depending on what you're looking to accomplish. Nothing in this game is really that black-and-white, tbh.

Just looking on paper,if you were able to hang in there long enough to neut it down, my gut feeling is that you could kill an active fit tengu with that XL hurricane... at least some of the time.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-05-16 16:45:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsukino Stareine
[Hurricane, XL ASB]
Damage Control II
Co-Processor II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
[empty high slot]

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I

It's actually a pretty nice hit+run ship. 553 DPS before drones

Also if you are expecting to win vs a HAM drake you're going to be very disappointed. If you're ganking a PvE HML drake then...well doesn't really matter what you use.

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Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#27 - 2013-05-16 22:56:35 UTC
from what im seeing people prefer the cap booster over a normal one
Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#28 - 2013-05-16 22:58:17 UTC
got beaten by a blaster ferox the other day in a close fight with the passive shield tank, he was using active, seemed to do really well
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2013-05-16 23:03:44 UTC
yeah, as I said, since cane was nerfed it won't win a straight fight with another brawling BC and ferox is one of those very strong brawlers now.

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Tinu Moorhsum
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#30 - 2013-05-16 23:04:17 UTC
Arajo Taranian wrote:
from what im seeing people prefer the cap booster over a normal one


For shield tanking, yes. The large armor one has a huge power-grid requirement that makes it hard / impossible to use in the same way. The medium armor one will fit on a BC hull but it has weak repping. I really have no idea why they did that
Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#31 - 2013-05-16 23:48:10 UTC
It was a good fight though, the cane wasn't lawl smashed. I think I need to better dictate range when fighting those blaster boats
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-05-16 23:52:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsukino Stareine
Yeah you really need to hit that sweet spot when you're outside their optimals or they're going to rip you a new one.

Also surprised the fight was even close, an XL ASB ferox tanks 700 dps XD

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Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#33 - 2013-05-17 00:13:23 UTC
Maybe he was a baddie? who knows
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-05-17 00:16:15 UTC
For future reference you wanna be about 5-6km from blaster ships. They can switch to null though but that means their DPS and tracking takes a nosedive.

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Bleichrodt
Hyenas
#35 - 2013-05-17 11:55:10 UTC
Quote:
For future reference you wanna be about 5-6km from blaster ships. They can switch to null though but that means their DPS and tracking takes a nosedive


Shocked Blimey.....OP-you would maybe consider staying out past 13km(10km) in your Shield 'cane when fighting Blaster boats....unless they really poorly fitted they going to have Scram and probably webber-suss it out first and steam in close if you think he is lol-fit but really suggest starting off at range (and staying there)

g'luck.
Cable Udan
Balls Deep Inc.
#36 - 2013-05-17 13:29:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Cable Udan
wut, post fail
Cable Udan
Balls Deep Inc.
#37 - 2013-05-17 13:30:00 UTC
Bleichrodt wrote:
Quote:
For future reference you wanna be about 5-6km from blaster ships. They can switch to null though but that means their DPS and tracking takes a nosedive


Shocked Blimey.....OP-you would maybe consider staying out past 13km(10km) in your Shield 'cane when fighting Blaster boats....unless they really poorly fitted they going to have Scram and probably webber-suss it out first and steam in close if you think he is lol-fit but really suggest starting off at range (and staying there)

g'luck.


This.

Staying out to 5-6km will just see you scrammed and webbed by any good blaster boat. Utilise the great falloff that Projectile Turrets have and "kite" him out of overheated web range. With that XL ASB fit posted above you have 1.55+16.2km range with RF short range ammo and 3.1+24.2km with Barrage which is plenty of breathing space to kite a blaster boat.

- Cable
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-05-17 20:40:59 UTC
Sorry I keep thinking I'm flying an armourcane with it's own scram+web :P

canes are speedier and more agile tan most blaster brawlers so when you're fighting something else with a scram+web you can still dictate range (albeit slowly).

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Brazys Trumparankis
Absolute Order
Absolute Honor
#39 - 2013-05-18 13:11:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Brazys Trumparankis
Try this one :)
i think 2xLASB are better then one XL,


kick'ass cane
Nihassa
RvB Industries
#40 - 2013-05-18 16:26:21 UTC
Brazys Trumparankis wrote:
Try this one :)
i think 2xLASB are better then one XL,


kick'ass cane


It looks a little 'point less', pun intended. =)
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