Ships & Modules

Hi there,

Currently being training up to T2 Cruise missiles and grinding iskies to afford it, I'm working on a CNR project that I'd use for the sole purpose of bashing the **** out of Angel rats.

Here's the first batch :



Now you may have noticed I voluntarily added the 8th launcher and the extra mid. I've done the maths, if I'm correct it should fit. tightly, but it should.

Pre-Odyssey, with "ALL 5" skills, this gives 79.1 per launcher with T1 Nova cruise, which should put out 632.8 DPS
In Odyssey and according to the cruise missile change post, roughly adding +25% dmg, should get up to 791 DPS, without drones. Now that may be wrong, as in lower than what I should actually get since iirc they said base dmg, as in before skills, but cba to do the maths there.

So I'm gonna wildguess 791 + ~130 drone dps = 920 DPS, probably more like around 1K or something.

The tank however is rather poor, even with having 83.4% Exp and 80% Kin resists, SB boosts about 344.6 ehp per second.
Enouhg for belt rats, and afaik, not quite for anomalies though. however, fancy tanking modules may come with increased income rate anyway.

Not sure if I should use CN cruise or just stick with T1, maybe T2 for beefier rats ? As the intent is to make the better ISK spent per ISK gained ratio, which can be tricky as belt rats are not exact science and you never know what you're gonna get first.

What do you guys think about it ?

Please read again.

Each launcher 79.1 DPS with current release
That makes 79.1 x 7 = 553.7 DPS

Now, here comes the point when the "Please read again" kicks in.
I said I planned it for Odyssey.

If you look Odyssey change posts around :



Given this and "All L5 skills" :

Launcher x1.05(rof) x1.25(dmg inscrease) x8 (number of launchers) = Total weapon DPS
So
79.1 x1.05 x1.25 x8 = 830.55 DPS before drones, make that 960 DPS with them. (Reload times accounted for)

Anything else to say Sir Idon'treadpostsandreplyblindly ?

PS : Forgot I also have a +5% launcher RoF implant too.

There was a long ~math~ poast in the feedback thread which (I believe) rather categorically showed that BLA II + 2 Flares was better than the triple Rigor for most purposes. I think it sported 2 TPs. I have no reason to doubt that result.

-Liang

BLA ? I'm assumiin gBay Loading Accelerator, but doesn't the effect stack with BCU's ?

Everything does CNR damage in Odyssey, the only real difference is drones and whether you shield or armor tank. =P

Ship - # launchers (# effective launchers) - H/M/L slots - Drone bandwidth/Bay

CNR 8 8/7/5 75/100 (780 CPU)

SNI 6 (8) 7/8/5 75/75 (780 CPU)

Fleet Typhoon 6 (8.25) 8/5/7 125/200 (660 CPU)

Raven 6 (8) 7/7/5 50/75 (750 CPU)

Typhoon 6 (8) 7/5/7 100/125 (640 CPU)

Golem 4 (8) 7/7/4 75/75 (715 CPU)



Now I just need a way to shield tank the Fleet Typhoon (3x BCUs, 2-3 DDAs)...

it's technically not your fault. if you read the bonus on hulls and modules, you will notice it says something like "7.5% increased rate of fire per level". technically, this statement is wrong. rate of fire is measured in shots / time unit, so if you increase it, you would expect having to multiply by 1 + the bonus. how the stat ACTUALLY works is it reduces the time between shots by the given percentage.
to make the difference more clear: if you had a ship with a 100% bonus, it would not shoot twice as fast but infinitely fast. a laser boat with t1 crystals and 100% bonus to "rate of fire" would oneshot everything, or more likely crash the game.

So basically "7.5% increased rate of fire per level" should actually be interpreted as "Decreases the delay between each shot by 7.5% per level" correct ?

That reminds me about World of Tanks for some reasons. We have the same kind of misunderstanding over there too.
For each barrel we have a "Accuracy" stat as in "Accuracy : 0.30" for example.
Thing is, it's not accuracy, it's Deviation.
It means that for a barrel having an "accuracy" of 0.30, the shot will not be anywhere withing 30 cms of the center of the reticle, but the shell will actually deviate by 30cms for every 100m the shell travelled in the air.

I think these rate of fire bonuses should be called "cycle time reductions"

Ie 5% reduction to cruise missile cycle time

100% reduction = instant cycle = infinite ROF -> well not really infinite, press button, launcher is empty.
24 missiles per launcher, 10 second reloads, 2.4 missiles per second :)

There's actually no reason to go with the CNR at all with the Fleet Phoon out there. It can't apply all of its damage but the raw damage output is ******* crazy in practical fittings.

-Liang

The demon trashcan aka. dirty syringe is beautiful. :(