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Battle Cruiser V question

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Draik Olacar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-05-15 03:37:25 UTC
If I start BC5 right now, i have 25 days on it, what would happen once Odyssey is released? would it stop at like 5 days and make me do each BC5 individually or will it keep going till im done with the skill and give me BC5 for all races?
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-05-15 03:40:37 UTC
I don't think you're gonna like the answer.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#3 - 2013-05-15 03:43:47 UTC
From what I understand, it will clone whatever SP you have in that skill into four separate skills. So you might have to finish five days on each.

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Britta Nolen
Sama Guild
#4 - 2013-05-15 03:52:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Britta Nolen
remap to per/will and plug in some implants to get it down.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#5 - 2013-05-15 03:54:38 UTC
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-great-skill-change-of-blessed-2013/

Quote:
Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price.
Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for.
If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.
Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you don’t train either of these skills.

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DRGaius Baltar
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-05-15 04:05:07 UTC
Draik Olacar wrote:
If I start BC5 right now, i have 25 days on it, what would happen once Odyssey is released? would it stop at like 5 days and make me do each BC5 individually or will it keep going till im done with the skill and give me BC5 for all races?



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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-05-15 04:14:58 UTC
you'll get all races at whatever % of the skill youve already trained. (assuming you have the cruiser pre requ.)

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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#8 - 2013-05-15 07:30:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Jacob Holland
RubyPorto wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-great-skill-change-of-blessed-2013/

Quote:
Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price.
Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for.
If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.
Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you don’t train either of these skills.

The last dev communication I read said rational integer skill levels only so this is a huge gain for those racing for as many meaningless SP as they can get...
In fact, I think it was that devblog and the follow-up thread... stealth edit?
Draik Olacar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-05-15 11:16:59 UTC
How do i decrease the time? and what would i need?
Signal11th
#10 - 2013-05-15 12:17:06 UTC
implants +3 + 4 pr +5 's plus you can remap specifically for the skills e.g memory,intelligence etc that ships require and this can take your time down by a few days.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-05-15 12:52:21 UTC
Signal11th wrote:
implants +3 + 4 pr +5 's plus you can remap specifically for the skills e.g memory,intelligence etc that ships require and this can take your time down by a few days.



Erm, ships is perception/willpower, don't tell him the bad road.


@Adam

If you don't have "Cybernetics" skill trained at 4 then forget it, even with Cyb4 right now I think you're already late even if you could plug +5's
Makes one year CCP announced this change so all of those who were already playing the game have no excuse for not having it already, for those of you who started earlier this month you can't get all BC's 5 but you can at least get all destroyers 5 and this is already awesome, all of those shiny pesky hated and feared Interdictors.

Plug the "thing" on Evemoon and make yourself a ships plan ASAP, for everything else Eve is a long term playing game, do'nt worry about a couple days lost or max training, you'll see at some point you'll even forget to put skills on the skill que (happens to me very often)

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Blod Nasir
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-05-15 15:56:14 UTC
ok I'm dumb but I need some clarification on this
Quote:
If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.

which skill points will be moved?? :s

I mean: old BC 5 should translate into 4x racial BC 5 right? Or does it mean that if I don't train racial cru 3 I won't have racial BC 5 at all but I'll find my skillset with 4x racial BC injected at lvl0 plus the equivalent of a racial BC 5 reimbursed in my free allocation pool? Or what else?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#13 - 2013-05-15 16:03:48 UTC
I wonder why people are scrambling to get this done still.

Everyone else got this done months ago..without implants or remaps.

also, INB4 "want free remap".

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

LittleTerror
Stygian Systems
#14 - 2013-05-15 16:11:32 UTC  |  Edited by: LittleTerror
Britta Nolen wrote:
remap to per/will and plug in some implants to get it down.


This, if at all possible.

/edit also sucks to be you op, if i understand the changes to skills correctly.
Danni stark
#15 - 2013-05-15 16:14:19 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I wonder why people are scrambling to get this done still.

Everyone else got this done months ago..without implants or remaps.

also, INB4 "want free remap".


because at first i thought "my alts will never fly those ships" then i thought "oh **** it, it's free SP i might as well".
wasted a remap on one, and the other won't be finished in time. oh well, not that bothered.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#16 - 2013-05-15 16:18:26 UTC
Blod Nasir wrote:
ok I'm dumb but I need some clarification on this
Quote:
If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.

which skill points will be moved?? :s

I mean: old BC 5 should translate into 4x racial BC 5 right? Or does it mean that if I don't train racial cru 3 I won't have racial BC 5 at all but I'll find my skillset with 4x racial BC injected at lvl0 plus the equivalent of a racial BC 5 reimbursed in my free allocation pool? Or what else?



Old BC5 will translate into racial BC5 IF AND ONLY IF you meet the prereq of training AT LEAST ONE RACIAL BATTLECRUISER SKILL.

For Example --> Gallente Battlecruiser Skill Prereq lists "Gallente Cruiser, Level 3" (replace "Gallente" with your favored race).


  • If right now you have Gallente Cruiser 3, and Battlecruisers 5, this will be replaced with "Gallente Battlecruiser 5" on patch day.
  • If right now, you have Gallente and Minmatar cruiser 3 and Battlecruisers 5, it will be replaced with "Gallente Battlecruiser 5" and "Minmatar Battlecruiser 5".
  • If right now, you have Battlecruisers 5, and NO CRUISER SKILLS TO L3, you will get 1.5 million SP put into the free allocation pool.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

LittleTerror
Stygian Systems
#17 - 2013-05-15 16:20:55 UTC  |  Edited by: LittleTerror
Blod Nasir wrote:
ok I'm dumb but I need some clarification on this
Quote:
If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.

which skill points will be moved?? :s

I mean: old BC 5 should translate into 4x racial BC 5 right? Or does it mean that if I don't train racial cru 3 I won't have racial BC 5 at all but I'll find my skillset with 4x racial BC injected at lvl0 plus the equivalent of a racial BC 5 reimbursed in my free allocation pool? Or what else?


Well I think people with BC lvl 5 now will gain lvl 5 in all racial skills, if i'm reading things correctly and I say this because I quite honestly don't have to worry since I can fly pretty everything subcap. However I think while it would be fair to give all those people who trained BC lvl 5 all the racial BC skills so that they can still fly every BC, I think it is UNFAIR that those who are new to the game and have not trained BC lvl 5 should now have to train for each race individually.

Again that is only how I understand it and if I understand it correctly, then every active player should be given the skills for free regardless of their current total skills trained because such big changes to skills will always put some people at a disadvantage purely because they didn't train skill 'x'

/edit

and now I have to go read the changes again so I know exactly what is going to happen, and I have a feeling I'm not going to like it, I think a petition to CCP to make all active accounts equal is in order but only if people are simply going to lose out. Lets be honest, its not nice that some people benefit from the changes simply because they put in 1 months training, while others lose out and may have to train skills for 4 months to be able to fly all battle cruisers etc. Unless they make these racial skills rank 1 or something like that so it takes the same amount of time I can't see this being fair at all...
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#18 - 2013-05-15 16:22:19 UTC
Mwa ha ha ha ha! 8 days to BC5. Twisted


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LittleTerror
Stygian Systems
#19 - 2013-05-15 16:32:29 UTC
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74234

Quote:
First, ship progression is not consistent. We have racial spaceship command skills (like Amarr Frigate, Amarr Cruiser, Amarr Battleship) mixed with generic skills (Destroyers and Battlecruisers). This creates unneeded complexity


Well this logic quite simply pisses me off a little in a very unnerving way, complexity? The current way that skills work are not complex at all... Does CCP understand the term if something works then don't try to fix it? Introducing more skills will only make things MORE complex idiots... Roll
Blod Nasir
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-05-15 16:36:51 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
For Example --> Gallente Battlecruiser Skill Prereq lists "Gallente Cruiser, Level 3"

missed that part, thanks for clarifying

Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I wonder why people are scrambling to get this done still.

Everyone else got this done months ago..without implants or remaps.

actually I'm scrambling to have some unallocated SP, so even if I did set my skillqueue months ago I didn't know about the "free SP" thingy, so now I wanted to be sure about which skillbok to NOT inject before odissey ;)
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