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Eddard Varbosa Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 10	#1 - 2011-11-03 20:45:13 UTC Hey all, Are there any missions that don't effect empire standings? I don't want my kills to negatively impact my empire standings.

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Spineker Likes received: 249	#2 - 2011-11-03 20:51:31 UTC \| Edited by: Spineker All but faction missions will not impact High Sec, every faction has an enemy and lesser enemy. Caldari for instance Gallante with a minor Minny thrown in, most missions are not against empire factions but pirate. There are only a couple that will impact your empire standings and they are easy to spot when you ask for a mission.


Eddard Varbosa Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 10	#3 - 2011-11-03 20:54:43 UTC Are there any particular agents which only offer pirate missions? Or will I have to "weed out" empire missions from any agent?

Kinroi Alari

Orbital Express LTD

Trystero GmbH

Likes received: 41

#4 - 2011-11-03 21:01:29 UTC

Take a look at DeMichael Crimson's Faction Standing Repair Plan:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10212
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Faction_Standing_Repair_Plan

Pirate faction?
More complicated.
Most people are trying to increase an Empire faction standing,
But look at the one-shot pirate COSMOS agents, and makes friends with / join the null sec player alliances who control where your fav faction has pirate agents.

Like I said, most are worried about Amarr / Gallente / Caldari / Minmatar faction rather than pirate.
These Empire-faction hunting mission runners do the following:
1) Skip missions that blow up other Empire factions (I do this, if missioning);
2) Skip storyline missions that increase your faction standing but hurt its enemies';
3) Run missions for Sisters of EVE standing (for Gallente and Minmatar) and Khanid Kingdom (for Caldari and Amarr).

Also, the Empire epic arcs are great, too.


Kinroi Alari Orbital Express LTD Trystero GmbH Likes received: 41	#5 - 2011-11-03 21:03:27 UTC 1 Oh! And if the in-game agent finder doesn't do what you want, look for your pirate agents via Chribba's EVE Agent website. Here's the EVElopedia entry on it: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE_Agents


Eddard Varbosa Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 10	#6 - 2011-11-03 21:05:18 UTC Thanks so much, great info. Btw, will Khanid Kingdom missions negatively impact Gallente/Minmatar standings?

Zhilia Mann

Tide Way Out Productions

Likes received: 3,040

#7 - 2011-11-03 21:08:08 UTC

Eddard Varbosa wrote:

Btw, will Khanid Kingdom missions negatively impact Gallente/Minmatar standings?

Yes, but not very much -- and again, only storylines.

As far as I can tell, no agent in the game flat out doesn't give anti-empire missions. But the hit isn't as hard as some people make it out to be (if you're fast about it), the money can be good (tag prices are through the roof right now -- have you tried converting LP lately?), and declining isn't really a big deal.

Eddard Varbosa

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 10

#8 - 2011-11-03 21:10:27 UTC

Zhilia Mann wrote:

Eddard Varbosa wrote:

Btw, will Khanid Kingdom missions negatively impact Gallente/Minmatar standings?

The reason I don't want to decline is because I have a jump clone with Fed Navy (Gallente). If I drop below 8 standing, will I keep this JC?

Substantia Nigra

Polaris Rising

Goonswarm Federation

Likes received: 1,523

#9 - 2011-11-03 21:13:12 UTC | Edited by: Substantia Nigra

Eddard Varbosa wrote:

Btw, will Khanid Kingdom missions negatively impact Gallente/Minmatar standings?

There is a table, part way down THIS page, that shows the derived standings inter-relationships. I've seen other versions that are similar, but don't know any one to be better or worse than the other.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Kinroi Alari

Orbital Express LTD

Trystero GmbH

Likes received: 41

#10 - 2011-11-03 21:16:37 UTC

Eddard Varbosa wrote:

Thanks so much, great info.

Btw, will Khanid Kingdom missions negatively impact Gallente/Minmatar standings?

Yes, but more slowly than doing Amarr ones directly.
It's based on the relationships between the factions involved.

Here are the faction types:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Portal:NPC_Faction_Types
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Portal:NPC_Faction_Blocks

Here's a discussion of the standings mechanics:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Standings_mechanics

Years ago, when I regularly ran level 4s, I used an online chart showing "In-Game Inter-Faction Relationships" and "Derived Inter-Faction Standing Modifiers." While I have no idea if we have such resources in the EVElopedia, you can look at each corporation or faction in-game and see what their modifier is towards others.

Kinroi Alari

Orbital Express LTD

Trystero GmbH

Likes received: 41

#11 - 2011-11-03 21:21:02 UTC | Edited by: Kinroi Alari

Eddard Varbosa wrote:

The reason I don't want to decline is because I have a jump clone with Fed Navy (Gallente). If I drop below 8 standing, will I keep this JC?

Yes, but you won't be able to install more clones (or replace one if you accidentally "double up" clones in a station and destroy one... and while there is a prompt, it's amazing what sleep deprivation can do! >.< ).

Also, looks like Substantia Nigra found a version of the chart I used to use (love that name, it's the part of the midbrain that "plays an important role in reward, addiction, and movement").

Edit, after seeing next entry:
By "install more clones" I mean "expand the number of clones you have."
(Sorry I wasn't clear.)

Zhilia Mann

Tide Way Out Productions

Likes received: 3,040

#12 - 2011-11-03 21:21:04 UTC

Eddard Varbosa wrote:

The reason I don't want to decline is because I have a jump clone with Fed Navy (Gallente). If I drop below 8 standing, will I keep this JC?

Once a clone is in station it stays there until you move it. You could jump to that clone, fly to any station anywhere and jump back to another clone and it would stay where you put it. The standings thing is only for clone creation.


Eddard Varbosa Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 10	#13 - 2011-11-03 23:04:54 UTC 1 Fantastic info, thanks all.

Substantia Nigra

Polaris Rising

Goonswarm Federation

Likes received: 1,523

#14 - 2011-11-04 00:05:15 UTC

Kinroi Alari wrote:

... it's the part of the midbrain that "plays an important role in reward, addiction, and movement"

Lol, of course MMORPGs, such as EVE, have no relationship to the doings of the black stuff ... addiction, and reward motivation :-)

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

pussnheels

Viziam

Likes received: 1,401

#15 - 2011-11-04 10:31:14 UTC

if you do not want a negative standing hit , avoid missions against other factions , also try and do missions for the opposing faction aswell

Example do 16 missions + story line for amarr then go to a minmatar agent and repeat

your faction gain will be a 2 step forward one backward but it works and your standin loss will be neglible each time

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire

DeMichael Crimson

Republic University

Minmatar Republic

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#16 - 2011-11-04 13:26:24 UTC

Actually, there is only one Faction that is positive to all Empire Factions.

The Interbus.

If you check the Inter-Faction Relationships table (Top one), you'll see they are positive to all except Pirate Factions.

http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Standings#Standing_Relationships

The Interbus doesn't have any storyline agents and the missions handed out by Interbus agents aren't supposed to have Empire Faction targets. This is because The Interbus is jointly owned by all Empire Factions. The Interbus gives Loyalty Points with the mission reward but they don't have an LP Store. You should be able to do missions without incurring any changes to your Empire Faction standings. Also only a few of their missions will affect Security Status ratings. Those would be Pirate encounters like Worlds Collide, Vengeance, Blockade, etc.

Basically, The Interbus is a neutral Corporation that offers missions without affecting Empire. I view them as the Retirement Corp for after you have gained max positive standings with all Empire Factions. With The Interbus you can still do missions without having to watch your standings or jump between Factions and or decline Anti-Empire encounter missions.

Course the price for that is no LP Store and no storyline agents with special item rewards.

Well, that's how it used to be. I don't know if The Interbus is still the same now due to all of the recent changes that CCP has done to this game, the agents, the missions, the standings, etc. Probably a good idea to have CCP verify this.

DMC

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