Jita Park Speakers Corner

Sorry, can't help.

When I say polls i am thinking of polls like the ones done for RL elections. You don't seat and wait people to come and answer, you get their data, split them in demographic groups, and engage them actively by phone, mail or on the streets.

Provided how CCP already haves data on account holders and easily contact them, it would be easy to split them by age/country/time subscribed/et cetera, and then mail them:

"Hi, xxx

We are from CCP's Team Poll and we're sending this e-mail to your contact adress as we'd be interested in you taking a poll with one of our interviewers, via live chat. It wil take some 30 minutes and you'll be rewarded with 30 days of subscription for your time upon completing the poll.

If you agree, answer to this mail and we will contact you to appoint a date for the poll"

Of course, this demands some serious effort. Setting a poll it's quite difficult (what do you want to know? how you get it from/through a poll?), and the procedure itself would have a certain cost, but then, done properly, it would provide AA+ data on the players.

Then CCP and the CSM would be able to check their assumptions with some real data.

For an instance: let's say (fictionally) that 20,000 lone miners spent their time chatting with other players, and that was the reason why they mined and played EVE. Then CCP and the CSM blindly charge against semi-AFK mining and make it an activity incompatible with socializing and then those (fictional) lone miners leave the game and CCP takes a hit worth 300,000 USD each month. All because those (fictional) lone miners who chat while they mine are not in the CSM and nobody asked them, not even was aware that they existed at all.

And yes, i am a lone miner with a one-man corp who chats while mining. And I seriously hope i'm as unrepresentative as I think i am so there's no "revolt of the lone miners" in the horizon.

That above is just an instance of how what people does and what you think they should do can be very different things, and wise planning aims to learn and deal with what people does (like, vote with their feet and quit) and not hope they will do what they should (become a CSM, or vote for it, or write at the forums, or...).

Are players like these voiceless because they don't speak? Neither CSM nor CCP can address problems that they aren't aware of.

We have probably the most active and most diverse CSM ever. Why not ask these invisible guys to contact Mike, or Ripard, or Ali, or Malcanis (who is right here, practically begging you to talk to him)? Hell, even though he didn't make CSM, Roc Wieler has more contacts at CCP than most CSMs do, and he's a good motivator. Have them talk to him.

It's always possible that the game has nothing more to offer, but there's no reason to assume that. For myself, it hasn't been about what the game itself offers, but flying with people I enjoy being with, regardless of whether we're mining or shooting red crosses or PVPing. Had I not known that, I would probably have left EVE frustrated as well.

Or communise?

What if we just teleport a bucket of money into every mining barge's ore hold every time the type 100 characters into local?

They cannot force miners to work together any more than they can force you to think like a rational person with a working knowledge of EVE and English.

Well played, sir. Well played indeed.

I knew I liked you for some reason.

By the way, excellent interview on Zebras.

While a hotdropping BLOPS afk cloaking badperson like me has little to do with mining, I seem to recall having far too many SP in it and having done it once or twice.

My god, we even did it with friends.



I'm not sure whether this quote stems from not having a basic understanding what a MMO is, is a troll, or possibly some autism spectrum related problem with socializing.

Oh, and the results are in and the officers of the CSM have been elected by the CSM, so everyone take off the tinfoil hats please.

Simple question? Out of all the ACTIVE eve accounts what was the percentage of pilots voting? Would love to see how many active subscriptions every year. My gut tells me it is going down like "gulp" Warcraft ! TY

He said "actively encourage".

And the time when i trusted CCP to add positive incentives ("the more the merrier") without "balancing" them with negative incentives ("you're alone, you're ******") passed away just five minutes ago.

It is quite simple, if after the changes my ISK/hour remains the same, CCP did it right.

If they dwindle, CCP is ******* me to force me out of my way to play and to play their way.

By the way, Odyssey wil mess with my ISK/hour with the low end minerals at null/low. Psychologically, a price loss higher than 30% will make the activity as unattractive as it was when drone alloys supplied those minerals.

9 million ISK per log in are nice. 6 million ISK per log in would be crap.

6 million per log in + then "let's actively encourage gang mining" = why oh why?

Tried 3 times with bad results, and not trying any more.