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I got bored of highsec but I'm afraid to go to null

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Adam Dimaloun
Sector-C Zone
#1 - 2013-05-15 09:41:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Adam Dimaloun
So from the title, I'm really bored from highsec and the boring mining/mission running in there, I'm kind of industry thing with little interest in pvp (I do love to pvp but I have some fear from it, which I'm trying to get over)

I loved EVE too much even if some people told me it don't suite me due to the fact that I fear taking risks (and EVE = risk + win)
I don't want the commitment to be 23/7 nullsec drone or what comes to that, I just want to GTFO from that abomination called highsec and go explore/mine ABC and try get some pvp kills as well

So what did you guys did when you first joined in? any advices to take and work with?
Keep in mind I'm below 10 million SP char, and I can fly all races up to battleships and Minmatar AFs, Amarr AFs with T2 full fits on them, also covops frigs as well

I see EVE as a big affective game to real life as well, because if not for the space, it would be real life with all its politics/risks and mechanics

o/
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#2 - 2013-05-15 09:43:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Corrupted
Well if you're afraid of doing something in a video game, there's not much hope for you and you should probably just k

Serious answer: how about you start up a corporation, send me fifty million, and then I start a war against it? Within a week, you'll either get over your fears, or go play something more fun. It's win-win for all of us.

More serious answer: it's just a game, dude. Stop being afraid of it and just go out and do stuff.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

JD No7
V I R I I
#3 - 2013-05-15 09:44:10 UTC
0.0 is not half as bad as what you may think, once you have moved there.

Do not take the empire link system camps as how the rest of 0.0 is. It's nothing like.
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-05-15 09:44:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Tuttomenui II
When I went to null I took only what i needed there and left my hisec mission infrastructure intact. A lot of people decide to take everything and then whine how they lost it all on the way in. So only take what you need and then accumulate more while there, leave your hisec stuff in place. It is good to have something to fall back on.
Danni stark
#5 - 2013-05-15 09:45:40 UTC
null really isn't that bad.

the people tend to be nicer, and it's more obvious who's about to shoot you.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#6 - 2013-05-15 09:46:09 UTC
Forum ate my post. Just take a bunch of T1 frigates into lowsec and attack anything you see.
Le Badass
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-05-15 09:47:29 UTC
Find a friendly null sec corp who will take you in. Get on voice and do some hilarious roams with them - You'll never be the same player after that.

If you really can't find anyone willing to take you in (I can't imagine that), go to NPC null and live there for a while.
Lt Kelson
Polaris Space Industries
#8 - 2013-05-15 09:49:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Lt Kelson
If you like to Exploration then I would reccomend doing C1 C2 wormholes from highsec or "daytripping" as some call it, with good flying you can do a C1 in an assault fright, have cleared sites in a Retribution and Enyo.

There is alot to learn with scanning and WH mechanics (no local, WH ship bonuses etc) but I found that most people left me alone in WH space if I was in an AF so it was a good way to start before I moved up to Battlecruisers.

Also would be well timed with the new scanning changes
Adam Dimaloun
Sector-C Zone
#9 - 2013-05-15 09:52:28 UTC
It is not about fear to do something in a video game, I do stunts and crazy stuff in other games as well, the unique thing about eve makes you consider every move you make so you don't have to deal with its in-game consequences later (with lots of ISK loss or loss of pod that lead to loss of SP in case of non-upgraded clone), in other games you die, you spawn again... that's it

But if I got it correct, I should just get there with my pod or 1 expendable ship, then try to manage from there how to establish a base of operation?
If that was the case I guess I can look on the routes/choke points between high/null or low/null and see what is the best to establish a logistics line for me
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#10 - 2013-05-15 09:56:28 UTC
What do you want to do in nullsec?
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#11 - 2013-05-15 09:56:37 UTC
It will be significantly easier if you join a corporation that does whatever it is you want to do, trust me.

And keeping your clone updated shouldn't be a difficult task. Neither should be flying something that's not your entire net worth. It's common sense.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2013-05-15 10:00:10 UTC
Adam Dimaloun wrote:
So from the title, I'm really bored from highsec and the boring mining/mission running in there, I'm kind of industry thing with little interest in pvp (I do love to pvp but I have some fear from it, which I'm trying to get over)

I loved EVE too much even if some people told me it don't suite me due to the fact that I fear taking risks (and EVE = risk + win)
I don't want the commitment to be 23/7 nullsec drone or what comes to that, I just want to GTFO from that abomination called highsec and go explore/mine ABC and try get some pvp kills as well

So what did you guys did when you first joined in? any advices to take and work with?
Keep in mind I'm below 10 million SP char, and I can fly all races up to battleships and Minmatar AFs, Amarr AFs with T2 full fits on them, also covops frigs as well

I see EVE as a big affective game to real life as well, because if not for the space, it would be real life with all its politics/risks and mechanics

o/



Get a Frigate and go to Low Sec. Learn to use the Directional Scanner and hunt prey. The rush you get with your first kill will be amazing as well as addicting. Frigs are cheap and great learning tools for getting combat experience. Hell even ransom your prey (turn a profit and always honor the ransom) and soon you'll forget Null Sec, laugh that you ever lived in High, and will wonder what the hell you ever did before becoming a dirty Pirate.

Trust Me. Pirate
Just Lilly
#13 - 2013-05-15 10:01:12 UTC
I recommend wormspace, establish your own base of operations from inside a C1, start from there.
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Le Badass
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-05-15 10:01:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Le Badass
I started out in NPC null with a stealth bomber and a condor along with assorted modules and bubbles.
If you want to start totally from scratch, find a system near medical facilites (for your clone when you die), refinery and production slots.
Then, fly in a mining venture (will also be handy for slipping through gatecamps on the way) with some basic BPOs in the hold.
Although pretty crappy compared to everything else, you can mine minerals and recycle dropped modules to build your own frigs and so on.
The BPOs will cost you anywhere from 5-20M depending on what you choose to bring.

And yes, I know that a meta 0 slasher suxxorz, but an industrial or pod trapped in a bubble WILL die eventually.
When you lose your meta 0 frig, it won't really matter.

Just my 2 cents.

EDIT:
You can probe down mag sites in null, then speed tank most of the rats while you hack the cans. Even if you don't get them all, before the incoming DPS is too much, you can still make a fair amount, so that's a nice side business when you find one.
Wooly Akachi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-05-15 10:02:48 UTC
when i made the move out to null i found a corp that was quite happy to jump the ships i NEEDED out in the jump frieghter and i then flew a T1 frig out with stabs in the bottom, got through easy. Just set your death clone to the corp station just incase.

PVP was scary at first now i dont mind taking out SB's and BC's on a roam when we expect to all die. half the time dieing is funny as hell. the other half is killing something worth ten times the cost our fleet and feeling realy good afterwards
Maruan Ibnis
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-05-15 10:03:36 UTC
Tara Read wrote:
Adam Dimaloun wrote:
So from the title, I'm really bored from highsec and the boring mining/mission running in there, I'm kind of industry thing with little interest in pvp (I do love to pvp but I have some fear from it, which I'm trying to get over)

I loved EVE too much even if some people told me it don't suite me due to the fact that I fear taking risks (and EVE = risk + win)
I don't want the commitment to be 23/7 nullsec drone or what comes to that, I just want to GTFO from that abomination called highsec and go explore/mine ABC and try get some pvp kills as well

So what did you guys did when you first joined in? any advices to take and work with?
Keep in mind I'm below 10 million SP char, and I can fly all races up to battleships and Minmatar AFs, Amarr AFs with T2 full fits on them, also covops frigs as well

I see EVE as a big affective game to real life as well, because if not for the space, it would be real life with all its politics/risks and mechanics

o/



Get a Frigate and go to Low Sec. Learn to use the Directional Scanner and hunt prey. The rush you get with your first kill will be amazing as well as addicting. Frigs are cheap and great learning tools for getting combat experience. Hell even ransom your prey (turn a profit and always honor the ransom) and soon you'll forget Null Sec, laugh that you ever lived in High, and will wonder what the hell you ever did before becoming a dirty Pirate.

Trust Me. Pirate



This. If you need tips and someone to show you the basics, beep me in game, well set up a meeting.


Learn in lowsec and after you know what youre doing, try null
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#17 - 2013-05-15 10:05:16 UTC
Adam Dimaloun wrote:
So from the title, I'm really bored from highsec and the boring mining/mission running in there, I'm kind of industry thing with little interest in pvp (I do love to pvp but I have some fear from it, which I'm trying to get over)

I loved EVE too much even if some people told me it don't suite me due to the fact that I fear taking risks (and EVE = risk + win)
I don't want the commitment to be 23/7 nullsec drone or what comes to that, I just want to GTFO from that abomination called highsec and go explore/mine ABC and try get some pvp kills as well

So what did you guys did when you first joined in? any advices to take and work with?
Keep in mind I'm below 10 million SP char, and I can fly all races up to battleships and Minmatar AFs, Amarr AFs with T2 full fits on them, also covops frigs as well

I see EVE as a big affective game to real life as well, because if not for the space, it would be real life with all its politics/risks and mechanics

o/


join faction warfare.
Bloody Wench
#18 - 2013-05-15 10:11:12 UTC
Adam Dimaloun wrote:
It is not about fear to do something in a video game, I do stunts and crazy stuff in other games as well, the unique thing about eve makes you consider every move you make so you don't have to deal with its in-game consequences later (with lots of ISK loss or loss of pod that lead to loss of SP in case of non-upgraded clone), in other games you die, you spawn again... that's it

But if I got it correct, I should just get there with my pod or 1 expendable ship, then try to manage from there how to establish a base of operation?
If that was the case I guess I can look on the routes/choke points between high/null or low/null and see what is the best to establish a logistics line for me



You'll never make it with just your pod.

If you just want to day trip, then pack up a cov-ops and get to it.

Remember to jump to a different clone first....maybe no implants at all?

If you make it to where you want to go, spend a day dicking around out there, but don't get podded, then jump clone back to empire. Then you can go back anytime you like without running the gauntlet again..

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Ocih
Space Mermaids
#19 - 2013-05-15 10:16:47 UTC
Most of the advice offered is solid. Add in, you really need to look around for corps and alliances in Null to be there and not be ripping your hair out. Null is all about the blob. Take that as good or bad. Fleets, large groups of people on the same page or just a gank fest. It's very much opinion.

I'm not going to sell you any rose colored glasses. You will lose ships and unless you get in with a huge power bloc you will lose more than you make. Much of Null is trash. I've had a main in Null for a week and I've logged in twice a day, every day and did on board scans, then dropped 7 probes and did detailed scans of the system I am logging out in. Every day, twice a day, no scan detected. Nothing. No wormholes, no Ladar, no crumby combat sites, no Grav, zilch, zip, nadda. Yea, I'm about to pull out and head back to high sec.
addelee
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2013-05-15 10:21:48 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
It will be significantly easier if you join a corporation that does whatever it is you want to do, trust me.


This.

Try to find a corp before you move to null that is happy to take you in and you have similar interests. I know we, as a corp, spend time moving people from highsec down into null. Often you'll find there's a wormhole that can be taken as a short cut and you'll have access to intel channels to identify choke points and hostile systems (gate camps). Moving stuff down shouldn't be an issue as many corps have jump freighter services.

Null isn't all that scary either. I had a similar experience to you with highsec and essentially became bored. Having moved to null, I couldn't think of anything worse than going back to high. There's always something to do down here with either pvp, pve (anoms, ded sites), industry (mining and manufacture) and a whole heap of exploration. Other than in PvP, it's rare to lose a ship unless you're just being careless or just plain unlucky.
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