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PVP Hurricane, Shield or Armor, active or passive
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Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#1 - 2013-05-15 00:27:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Arajo Taranian
I've been flying the cane for awhile now, I usually use it in solo situations. I primarily travel to lowsec and nullsec to do a little ratting while baiting other players into a fight. While this fight may not start off on my terms, My fitting is usually prepared for heavy pvp.

As of now I use a buffer shield tank Hurricane. I've found this is best for my play because the shield recharges over time, allowing me to continually rat without having to dock up. I realize an active armor fit would work well here too. The shield tank has also served me well in PVP, however I do have better armor tanking skills.


So regardless of fitting, Would you guys recommend using a shield or armor tank? Passive or active? Posting any fits that suit my play would be appreciated.

Currently my fit may look a little outdated, I just came back to eve after a few months break so the changes to the cane are new to me. Thanks again in advance


Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Power Diagnostic System II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Warp Disruptor II

425mm AutoCannon II Republic Fleet EMP
425mm AutoCannon II Republic Fleet EMP
425mm AutoCannon II Republic Fleet EMP
425mm AutoCannon II Republic Fleet EMP
425mm AutoCannon II Republic Fleet EMP
425mm AutoCannon II Republic Fleet EMP
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

Warrior II x6
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-15 00:36:50 UTC
Well what you've posted there isnt a passive shield tank. It's a buffer tank since you don't have any mods particularly related to shield recharge on there apart from the PDU (do you even need that?)

But as everything in eve: one ship can't fulfill multiple purposes that well. You'll fall short if any determined pvper decides to come attack you if you're running this setup.

Apart from the PDU, it seems like a regular shield brawling hurricane to me (rigs might be better off with only 1 anti-em and 2 extenders though).

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Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#3 - 2013-05-15 00:43:44 UTC
Thanks for the reply! currenty the PDU is needed to fit this currently :-/

What fit would you recommend so I can go toe to toe with those pvpers

Any additional info is always appreciated!
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#4 - 2013-05-15 00:47:45 UTC
Pretty standard shield cane fit now tbh.

Also don't forget the PDU also helps a bit with shield HP, regen and cap regen as well as giving the slight PG boost to fit everything.

LOL and they said the cane was nerfed to the ground.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-05-15 01:12:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsukino Stareine
well most solo fits rely on speed and range dictation. A brawling hurricane vs almost any other brawling BC will lose in a straight up 1vs1 (ham drake, ferox, prophecy, myrm, brutix etc) since its nerf.

If I were to be honest I would say a shield kiting cane using artillery would catch most people off guard. You could kite them outside of web range and just keep them pointed and smash them with artillery.

But the way low sec happens it's usually not only 1 ship after your blood.

If you're just there to do some low sec ratting, a dessy is more than enough.

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Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#6 - 2013-05-15 01:28:35 UTC
Does any1 confirm or deny two extender rigs and an em rig being better then my current setup
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-05-15 02:04:54 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
LOL and they said the cane was nerfed to the ground.

go compare it to how it was before and to the other BC options now and then come back and say it wasnt again.
i certainly cant with a straight face...

I still like the cane but it's sub par at all specific roles.
it's ok at dps, ok at tank, ok at speed.... not good at any of the above.
if you want an all rounder, sure, cane is fine.
if you need a role filled, not so much.


as for fitting it? shield every time.
definitely lose the PDU, you dont need it. (not sure why you think you do.)
m4 neut.
rigs should be 1 em and 2 extenders.
2x LSE > LSE + invuln IMO. (this changes needs a 1% implant or a m4 LSE.)

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Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#8 - 2013-05-15 02:13:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Arajo Taranian
Needed the PDU for original fit to have enough pg, as stated above, I shall try the changes you recommended and see if I still need it. Thanks for advice!

Also, what would you recommend to take the spot of the PDU
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-05-15 02:34:04 UTC
gyro or nano

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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-05-15 02:58:52 UTC
despite what bitter old vet says, armour fitting your cane is very viable but usually only in a fleet situation.

The other things he says are quite correct though.

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-05-15 04:16:50 UTC
TIL: 'Bitter-Vet' means fitting your ships correctly. Ok then...

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Cable Udan
Balls Deep Inc.
#12 - 2013-05-15 04:55:39 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
well most solo fits rely on speed and range dictation. A brawling hurricane vs almost any other brawling BC will lose in a straight up 1vs1 (ham drake, ferox, prophecy, myrm, brutix etc) since its nerf.

If I were to be honest I would say a shield kiting cane using artillery would catch most people off guard. You could kite them outside of web range and just keep them pointed and smash them with artillery.

But the way low sec happens it's usually not only 1 ship after your blood.

If you're just there to do some low sec ratting, a dessy is more than enough.


Tornado does the whole arty thing a lot better now. Also I'm not sure why an arty Cane would catch people off guard either as it's a very popular fit.
Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#13 - 2013-05-15 05:39:43 UTC
Refit the PDU for a nano, and switched out for a neut, also changed rigs to previously mentioned suggestion.

Thanks guys! I welcome any more info about different tanking methods, fittings, tactics, and whatever else anyone wants to muster up about the cane.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-05-15 05:58:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsukino Stareine
Cable Udan wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
well most solo fits rely on speed and range dictation. A brawling hurricane vs almost any other brawling BC will lose in a straight up 1vs1 (ham drake, ferox, prophecy, myrm, brutix etc) since its nerf.

If I were to be honest I would say a shield kiting cane using artillery would catch most people off guard. You could kite them outside of web range and just keep them pointed and smash them with artillery.

But the way low sec happens it's usually not only 1 ship after your blood.

If you're just there to do some low sec ratting, a dessy is more than enough.


Tornado does the whole arty thing a lot better now. Also I'm not sure why an arty Cane would catch people off guard either as it's a very popular fit.


arty cane in pvp o.O? I've not seen one in a long long long long (ever) time.

something like this?

[Hurricane, artypvp]
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II

650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

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Cable Udan
Balls Deep Inc.
#15 - 2013-05-15 07:57:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Cable Udan
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Stuff


Prior to the tier 3 battlecruisers being released, ArtyCanes were a popular fit amongst the Tuskers and I've come across a substantial amount of them in the couple of years I've been in lowsec.

Most artyfits were along the lines of:

[Hurricane, Cable Udan's Hurricane]

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Small 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I
Small 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

(Obviously this is a pre-tiercide fit - I've not flown arty Canes since). It was very much a small gang ship and enjoyed limited success solo, in my hands anyway.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-05-15 08:18:50 UTC
well the above fit no longer...........fits

the one I posted is a rough approximation with regards to the current cane. Seems like it can still do the same job

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Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#17 - 2013-05-15 08:40:59 UTC
Just wanted to drop in and say that if I'm not mistaken, currently T2 medium neuts are worthless, they cost more, are harder to fit, have the same stats, and overheat faster.
Cable Udan
Balls Deep Inc.
#18 - 2013-05-15 09:26:28 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
well the above fit no longer...........fits

the one I posted is a rough approximation with regards to the current cane. Seems like it can still do the same job


Hence my caveat after I posted the fit.

The 720 Cane can still be made to fit as-is (without the second high utility obs.) but you need a 5% PG implant, which is lol. If you drop the CDFE and put another ACR on it fits and you only lose about 5k~ EHP.

For what it's worth, the 720 Cane outperforms the 650 one, despite losing two shield rigs for PG ones. The 650 Cane has 6k~ more EHP but does 2293 alpha whereas the 720 Cane does 3744, with RF close-range ammo. I consider this fit to be used mainly in small gangs so that 6k~ EHP won't really matter much, whereas having over 1k more alpha does.

As I said in my first post though, 'Nados do arty better these days so it's moot.

- Cable
Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#19 - 2013-05-16 00:44:55 UTC
Can someone post an active shield cane fit? Was thinking about replacing the invuln field for a medium shield booster. thoughts?
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#20 - 2013-05-16 09:22:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tinu Moorhsum
I haven't EFT'd a hurricane in a long time but if you're looking for an active fit one try this

highs:
- 425mm autocannons,
- medium meta-4 neut
mids:
- large ancillary shield booter (don't forget cap charges),
- warp disruptor (I may be inclined to try a scram because no web, especially if baiting)
- 10mn mwd
- invul
lows:
- 3x gryo
- shield power relay
- tracking enhancer
- damage control
rigs:
3x field extender

quick EFT of that gives you a fit with (if you use heat) round about 750dps , an EHP a bit over 40k and tanks about 370dps actively (overloaded). You'll probably need a 1% cpu implant. I'm not "Mr. Perfect" when it comes to fitting ships but to my way of thinking, for baiting randoms for 1:1 brawling I think this fit would tear a hole in the one you were using before and it would have enough staying power, as long as you didn't run out of cap boosters, to give any BC or smaller sized ship a good solid fight.
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