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[Proposal] The jukebox is gone? We want it back!

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Grods
The Lone Wolves Security
#81 - 2013-04-01 19:07:03 UTC
Aww. Me want jukebox.
Komodo Askold
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#82 - 2013-04-02 14:13:39 UTC
I have to say the 'dynamic music' system we have now is ok, in a sense it gives an accurate sense of fitting: for example, when entering lowsec or a WH, music suddenly changes to a more fitting one, remembering where you are.

However, it turns itself to be annoying when travelling around in the same type of space, let's say highsec, and music changes apparently randomly every 2 systems, right when I am enjoying the song. Sometimes it's even more bizarre, logging in with a certain song and then changing just seconds after seeing my docked ship. Moreover, while all songs are great (including the new WH-0.0 ones), you can end up tired of being forced to hear the same ones over and over again, having to change space type to hear something different (even a quick WH trip ends up to be boring in that sense; I prefer not to imagine living there or in nullsec).

I'd vote for being able to enable the old jukebox or the new one at will, from game settings, so you can hear the song you want or keeping the location-sensible mode active whenever you want. Oh, and please, add the new WH-0.0 themes to the old jukebox.
Caesar IXX
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2013-04-06 09:32:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Caesar IXX
All good theater, film and gaming experiences rely on an audiences/participants ability to "suspend disbelief", by removing the Jukebox feature and making me go into the real world to manipulate my ambient sound while playing; YOU HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISHED MY ABILITY TO SUSPEND DISBELIEF, AS A RESULT; I ENJOY THE GAME LESS AND YOU AS A COMPANY PROVIDE LESS VALUE.

Eg: When I began a battle in the past the ambient noise/music automatically changed to let me know I was in a battle; I don't want to do this manually because if I do I will no longer feel like I am in a battle, but rather; that I am in front of a screen. I don't want to be in front of a screen, I want to be in a space battle.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#84 - 2013-04-12 01:37:31 UTC
It keeps on trucking, slowly but surely.
Devyatiy 9
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#85 - 2013-04-12 13:17:22 UTC
Just wanted to change current track.. Oops.

I also want jukebox to be back.
Smegskull
Abh Academy
Abh Alliance
#86 - 2013-05-12 01:57:28 UTC
It would be nice to be able t skip the naff tracks again (sorry CCP but not every track you paid Jon Hallur for was golden).

Suppose I will just have to start listening to ambiant stations on shoutcast.
Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#87 - 2013-05-15 05:29:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Arajo Taranian
+1 give us our damn jukebox you mean spirited goons
Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#88 - 2013-05-15 05:31:37 UTC
[quote=Caesar IXX]All good theater, film and gaming experiences rely on an audiences/participants ability to "suspend disbelief", by removing the Jukebox feature and making me go into the real world to manipulate my ambient sound while playing; YOU HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISHED MY ABILITY TO SUSPEND DISBELIEF, AS A RESULT; I ENJOY THE GAME LESS AND YOU AS A COMPANY PROVIDE LESS VALUE.


This.
Max Therion
Jita Ikami Bank
#89 - 2013-05-15 08:32:28 UTC
Bring back the music of our own control. Please! I know that old phrase "Eve has sound?" What?
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2013-05-19 19:43:15 UTC
Every time I log into EVE, not having the jukebox annoys me to no end. I have not gotten over it yet and I don't think I will any time soon. It was one of the things that stood out about EVE, that made EVE better than all the other games.

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Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Chitsa Jason
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#91 - 2013-05-27 01:59:57 UTC
I think eve should not do everything. There are plenty OOG media players you can use.

Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me
Uronksur Suth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#92 - 2013-05-31 00:08:02 UTC
Chitsa Jason wrote:
I think eve should not do everything. There are plenty OOG media players you can use.


That doesn't seem like a valid reason for the jukebox that everyone liked to have been removed and not restored.
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2013-05-31 06:39:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Mocam
Chitsa Jason wrote:
I think eve should not do everything. There are plenty OOG media players you can use.


Removal of existing content is not the same as asking the game to "do everything" - it's restoration of previous abilities. Many were happy to see some old effects come back - do you think this change would anger a lot or simply please a portion of the community?

Running this game full screen is enjoyable to many, outside of those who multi-box/mutli-session their alts - and this makes it much more playable and enjoyable to those players - especially being able to quickly pause a song from full-screen if something happens PvP wise.
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
#94 - 2013-05-31 15:35:28 UTC
I don't see the problem here at all. Want to listen to a specific song? Lower the in game music sound and open up YouTube or Sound cloud and listen to what you want. You do not really need the jukebox.
Svarii
Acclimatization
#95 - 2013-05-31 20:19:29 UTC
My two cents:
I only liked 2 tracks on the jukebox when I first started playing.
I have had it turned off for so long I forgot it was there.

I don't miss it.

Deny Pirates the Use of Implants
Hogarth Starbanger
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#96 - 2013-06-30 09:18:14 UTC
+1

One of the first things I noticed when coming back was the lack of jukebox. Made my insides sad.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2013-06-30 10:23:09 UTC
Gritz1 wrote:
I don't see the problem here at all. Want to listen to a specific song? Lower the in game music sound and open up YouTube or Sound cloud and listen to what you want. You do not really need the jukebox.

I can manipulate the jukebox while shooting and being shot at. I can't do what you said while managing combat or other tricky maneuvers.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#98 - 2013-07-02 14:30:54 UTC
As I'm sure others have stated, being forced to use a third party application in addition to the Eve client is a less than optimal solution. Having to tab out of the game at the wrong time can get you blown up. Running yet another app in the background can be a performance issue. In addition, CCP removed functionality from the game that many of us found extremely useful and the new "dynamic" music system just doesn't cut it. I spend most of my time in low sec and end up hearing the same 2-3 songs over and over.

I don't get why the CSM members who've replied in this thread are so dismissive. At least humor us and bring this issue up with CCP so that we can get a response straight from the devs as to why the jukebox won't be brought back.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Dorrann
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#99 - 2013-07-04 14:48:22 UTC
Its quite the testimony to the persistence of the EVE community that this is STILL being chased.

A system that plays tracks that lots of people have said they dont like listening to but allows them to skip over for the tiny handful that they DO like listening to......
IF CCP can bring it back without crippling some other apparently unrelated system, I say that they should.
Given CCPs track record for adding stuff without breaking other stuff though ...... hmmmm

I think I'll stick to listening to my MP3s and CDs with the EVE music turned off. Some of the EVE music is good, but sadly, most of it is just noise and whales humping.

I rate EVE's music on a par with WiS, utterly irrelevant and a waste of effort.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2013-07-04 17:47:06 UTC
I would agree with you mostly, Dorrann, though I personally enjoy the whales humping, but I think there is a very large difference in the development resources used by WiS vs. what's used by the jukebox. It had the functionality to add your own music to the jukebox folder and play it in-game via the jukebox, and to create your own playlists. Sadly, I discovered this feature mere days before it was removed, and I did not get around to playing with it.

I think if people knew about what the jukebox could have done for them, they would have liked it more. Also, I do not believe it costs much more development time and programming code than the ambient music system. I'd like to have both in my game. And a zone shouldn't have one 8-minute track of nothing playing on an infinite loop! Not everyone makes a quick flight through nullsec before jumping right back to highsec! There are people who actually live in nullsec! *shock* They don't wanna hear that hissy crap 24/7!

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."