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Battleships and above,...weapon systems and such

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#81 - 2013-05-14 19:18:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Frostys Virpio
In case you don't have enough AA guns, the Japanese also had beehives shells just in case.
Alara IonStorm
#82 - 2013-05-14 19:24:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
baltec1 wrote:

Thats debatable for the uk at timesUgh

You had such a beautiful war machine.

It could be worse. Canada is the second largest country in the world and we have about 90 F/A 18's to defend our boarder. Navy is in similar shape. I am pretty sure the yanks haven't conquered us yet because think they already did at some point and forget we're still a nation.

Can you loan us a couple of Eurofighters or somethin. Cry
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#83 - 2013-05-14 19:27:48 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
baltec1
Thats debatable for the uk at times[:ugh: wrote:

You had such a beautiful war machine.

It could be worse. Canada is the second largest country in the world and we have about 90 F/A 18's to defend our boarder. Navy is in similar shape. I am pretty sure the yanks haven't conquered us yet because think they already did at some point and forget we're still a nation.

Can you loan us a couple of Eurofighters or somethin. Cry


But we are totally overpayin' for some kickin' new F35. Delivered next century or something...

The brits also sold us some fire hazardous submarine so I'd rather not buy from europe.
Alara IonStorm
#84 - 2013-05-14 19:35:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Frostys Virpio wrote:

But we are totally overpayin' for some kickin' new F35. Delivered next century or something...

The brits also sold us some fire hazardous submarine so I'd rather not buy from europe.

CBC said that they were just testing the toaster oven on high. Sad

I hope we get those F-35's before our Hornets become the new Seakings. You know what, I hope we give up, just spend our military cash on more healthcare or something.

We'll just be America's medic when war breaks out.

US Soldier: Ah I'm hit!
Canadian Medic: Where does it hurt?
US Soldier: .....Nothing big. I'll duct tape it later, no need to charge me any...
Canadian Medic: I'm Canai..
US Soldier: Left Arm, it's in my Left Arm and it's burning!
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#85 - 2013-05-14 19:38:11 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:

But we are totally overpayin' for some kickin' new F35. Delivered next century or something...

The brits also sold us some fire hazardous submarine so I'd rather not buy from europe.

CBC said that they were just testing the toaster oven on high. Sad

I hope we get those F-35's before our Hornets become the new Seakings. You know what, I hope we give up, just spend our military cash on more healthcare or something.

We'll just be America's medic when war breaks out.

US Soldier: Ah I'm hit!
Canadian Medic: Where does it hurt?
US Soldier: .....Nothing big. I'll duct tape it later.
Canadian Medic: I'm Canai..
US Soldier: Left Arm, it's in my Left Arm and it's burning!


I just hope no one lose thier wings in mid air now...
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#86 - 2013-05-14 19:44:35 UTC
Why do these discussion always turn into America vs the world *sigh*

The op was just illustrating that RL BS are bristling with guns and it would be cool to have the same kind of COMPRABLE fire power.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#87 - 2013-05-14 19:48:49 UTC
Kult Altol wrote:
Why do these discussion always turn into America vs the world *sigh*

The op was just illustrating that RL BS are bristling with guns and it would be cool to have the same kind of COMPRABLE fire power.


It would not be interesting it would be broken. Battleship are countered by small ship. It's meant to be that way.
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#88 - 2013-05-14 20:08:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Adela Talvanen
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Not really worried about the slightly better here or there category.

As I said it's your tax $ paying for it all. Big smile

Who said I'm from the US? Besides that is this like a new revelation you are trying to share with the world because you might be surprised to know that every army is in fact funded by tax's. In fact it is common knowledge. What?


I guess you miss read the bit that said "If you are an American".

True all things spent on by governments are from tax's if they haven't borrowed the money from the banks.

Canada is just as profligate with its defense funding, thou not in the same league as America. P
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#89 - 2013-05-14 20:16:08 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:

But we are totally overpayin' for some kickin' new F35. Delivered next century or something...

The brits also sold us some fire hazardous submarine so I'd rather not buy from europe.


It was working fine before you took it from port.
Throktar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#90 - 2013-05-14 20:17:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Throktar
Alara IonStorm wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

Thats debatable for the uk at timesUgh

You had such a beautiful war machine.

It could be worse. Canada is the second largest country in the world and we have about 90 F/A 18's to defend our boarder. Navy is in similar shape. I am pretty sure the yanks haven't conquered us yet because think they already did at some point and forget we're still a nation.

Can you loan us a couple of Eurofighters or somethin. Cry



Canada has great ground forces and that all you need really. America would protect Canada all day and night from an invasion, and we have all the big tools. Canadian troops are quite seasoned after ten+ years of fighting terrorists. As an American from the midwest I can tell you that we love Canada for all the support. It is one of the few countries in the world I would pay to go to lol .

Back to the original subject kind of...Game balance will never allow for true ships to be made. The most "realistic" version of void warfare I can think of would come from the Warhammer Universe. Gigantic slabs of metal housing tens even hundreds of thousands of humans doing battle from hundreds of thousands of km away all the way to point blank fighting. Those ships are basically nothing but guns on top of guns, with 300m long torpedoes and thousands of fighter escorts. Just more the grittiness of of for me I guess.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#91 - 2013-05-14 20:19:57 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:

But we are totally overpayin' for some kickin' new F35. Delivered next century or something...

The brits also sold us some fire hazardous submarine so I'd rather not buy from europe.


It was working fine before you took it from port.


At that price, there should still be a legal warranty. We should buy russian subs, then we can all glow green in the dark.
Screenlag
Armaggedon Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
#92 - 2013-05-14 20:58:52 UTC
the 406mm guns had a refire rate of like 30secs. I'd happily keep my 5sec 425mm over that one.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#93 - 2013-05-14 21:21:31 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

Thats debatable for the uk at timesUgh

You had such a beautiful war machine.

It could be worse. Canada is the second largest country in the world and we have about 90 F/A 18's to defend our boarder. Navy is in similar shape. I am pretty sure the yanks haven't conquered us yet because think they already did at some point and forget we're still a nation.

Can you loan us a couple of Eurofighters or somethin. Cry


Just as an aside, Canadians can build aeroplanes just fine.

I just wish we'd remember that we can Roll

Ni.

James Razor
RazorEnterprise
#94 - 2013-05-14 22:54:55 UTC  |  Edited by: James Razor
Guys, get your Facts right:

The Bismarck was NOT sunk by external Factors. They managed to destroy everything on the hull, but the hull itself was sunk by the crew on board.

Quote form the Englisch Wikipedia Article:

First Officer Hans Oels ordered the men below decks to abandon ship; he instructed the engine room crews to open the ship's watertight doors and prepare scuttling charges.[118] Gerhard Junack, the chief engineering officer, ordered his men to set the demolition charges with a 9-minute fuse, but the intercom system broke down, and so he sent a messenger to confirm the order to scuttle the ship. The messenger never returned, and so Junack primed the charges and ordered the crew to abandon the ship.[119] Junack and his comrades heard the demolition charges detonate as they made their way up through the various levels.[120] In the meantime, Oels rushed throughout the ship, ordering men to abandon their posts. After he reached the deck a huge explosion killed him and about a hundred others.[121]

The four British ships fired more than 2,800 shells at Bismarck, and scored more than 400 hits, but were unable to sink Bismarck by gunfire.
At around 10:20, running low on fuel, Tovey ordered the cruiser Dorsetshire to sink Bismarck with torpedoes, and sent his battleships back to port.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_battleship_Bismarck


While i understand the reasons for Eve Battleships to not have Point Defense, how was that about Titans?

If i would build a 14km ship it would have about 1000 guns. And 2/3 of them would be point defense.

EDIT: Just btw.:
Another intersting warship class and currently the largest not being a carrier of some sorts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirov-class_battlecruiser

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#95 - 2013-05-14 23:28:30 UTC
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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2013-05-15 01:37:18 UTC
My only problem with battleship weapons in EVE is that they are so tiny compared to the rest of the ship, they look like pea shooters.

Even when they are on Attack BCs they still look tiny.

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#97 - 2013-05-15 03:44:47 UTC
Tuttomenui II wrote:
Battleships went away after WW2 because of carriers. Carriers made Battleships obsolete. Or something like that.


Which is why I trained drones when I first started, and it was good - for a while. Now I'm looking at Tengu prices like everyone else.

Cry

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Stockatar
Jion Keanturi
#98 - 2013-05-15 06:09:03 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Notice how every time anyone, anywhere in the world, wants to give n example of a mighty battleship, they invoke the name of the USS Missouri.

I'm not one of those "Mericuh! F**k yeah!" kind of Americans.... but recognize that this nation of mutts I call home, built the single most destructive conventional weapon in the history of mankind.... :)


Honestly, if you want an example of a top-of-the-line real-world battleship, you name the Yamato, Musashi or Bismarck.


Orly? How come all of those are on the bottom of the ocean then? P
Alara IonStorm
#99 - 2013-05-15 06:22:14 UTC
Stockatar wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:

Honestly, if you want an example of a top-of-the-line real-world battleship, you name the Yamato, Musashi or Bismarck.

Orly? How come all of those are on the bottom of the ocean then? P

Because they are so awesome they are also Submarines. Lol
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#100 - 2013-05-15 09:19:37 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Stockatar wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:

Honestly, if you want an example of a top-of-the-line real-world battleship, you name the Yamato, Musashi or Bismarck.

Orly? How come all of those are on the bottom of the ocean then? P

Because they are so awesome they are also Submarines. Lol


One of them also decided to fly.