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Ezek Price

Beyond Divinity Inc

Shadow Cartel

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#21 - 2013-05-14 01:50:56 UTC

Anya Klibor wrote:

I complained about a lot of things.

Yeah, that sums it up Quendishir. You sat in corp chat and complained about a lot of things, even when we ran cloaky operations, or felt humanely obliged to help people to PVP and enjoy the game.

War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left.

My blog, Civire Commander: http://civre.blogspot.co.uk/

Anya Klibor

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic

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#22 - 2013-05-14 03:20:52 UTC

Ezek Price wrote:

Anya Klibor wrote:

I complained about a lot of things.

Yeah, that sums it up Quendishir. You sat in corp chat and complained about a lot of things, even when we ran cloaky operations, or felt humanely obliged to help people to PVP and enjoy the game.

You did a terrific job.

Except pull a 180 on what I said and that sums up how well you guys operated. Only mercenary contract you got was a complete and utter failure.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.

Seraph IX Basarab

Outer Path

Seraphim Division

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#23 - 2013-05-14 03:53:07 UTC

Anya Klibor wrote:

Unfortunately, after spending a few months with them, that was the only thing 'awesome' about this corporation. It probably should have been a huge indication of things when a director left in my first week.

I'm not sure who you are referring to but the only directors that left either have serious matters to attend to in their life, or weren't actually directors and you were just confused per usual.

Tah'ris Khlador wrote:

My favorite part was when Seraph tried to form a Merc Coalition to fight his null sec battles. Of course, he was going to be the supreme leader.

I'm told that if we'd gone with it, we would have discovered real Unicorns.

Actually I tried to get the merc corps working together. Nobody was going to be "supreme leader" of anything. But it seems that ego and paranoia played a large part in you forming that conclusion as self evident.

Anya Klibor wrote:

Tah'ris Khlador wrote:

Considering his corp has problems with setting up a basic overview...

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FIX YOUR OVERVIEW SETTINGS
From: Seraph IX Basarab
Sent: 2013.05.12 00:54
To: Hades Effect, CN0te,

This is the second time we've had our allies at Five Families getting shot by our guys. FIX YOUR OVERVIEW SETTINGS. You don't need to see blues in your overview but you need to be able to see them in space.

...this doesn't surprise me. Seraph had a lot of ideas, but never followed through. That was his problem. He lacked follow-through. He also had problems keeping the corp's chat private. He didn't have any operational security, and actively worked to undermine operations set by the members of the corporation. All the while, claiming operations were his idea, no one else's (unless, of course, they failed in which case NOT HIS IDEA!).

Two months in a corporation that espoused being a recon corporation. The majority of players didn't fly recon ships. Hell, many were training into stealth bombers. I had complained vocally about this. I complained about a lot of things. I complained about people asking for handouts. I adamantly opposed the CEO's decision that people give away ISK if they were making it. I spent days in Incursions, so why am I being forced to give away my ISK? Especially when the corp has a 10% tax rate?

I mean, I could go over my complaints I Had, but I'll leave it at this: in two months, we didn't run a single cloaky operation. Not one. It was always T1 frigates or cruisers with Condor Bar, or Bombers Bar.

What kind of a "mercenary corporation" doesn't live up to its niche?

Quen, All you did was sit in Dodi dueling people with an alt boosting you and got on ts occasionally bragging about whatever meager accomplishment you happened to imagine while calling people "bads." On top of this literally nobody liked you. I argued for your place to stay out of sheer pity but you should of just stayed with Kai's group since you sound like you fit in with him more.

As for having a lot of ideas, perhaps you would have seen some of them implemented if you ever left High sec market hubs. What initiative did you ever take? Your claim that all we did was roam with condor and bombers bar is based purely on your contribution to the corp. Most of the time you have difficulty holding a simple tackle with a frig while flying stupidly expensive ships and then getting mad at others when you lost them.

As for opsec, I already spoke with you on the matter. You wished to gank some low sec pirates and came up with a terribly overcomplicated plan. Then when said pirate group was not on at that hour you rage posted again and again how it must have been spies leaking our intel.

I guess it's hard for you to see many of those perspectives since you'd actually need to have some basic concept of rationale or a perspective that goes beyond high sec market hub dueling. You even admitted that you joined Hades Effect thinking it was a highsec merc unit. At the very least you could learn to read basic english before complaining about what anyone else flies or what their overview settings happen to be on said day.

Worst of all you just lack class, plain and simple. And this little childish rage post along with all the other crude small minded quips you brought in are proof of it.

Take care.

Anya Klibor

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic

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#24 - 2013-05-14 04:28:31 UTC

I stopped reading when you made mention of me never leaving trade hubs, because you know that's a lie, and my killboard proves it. But then I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt and read through it.

All I can say is that if you've ever followed through on a successful mission, it will be purely amazing. Aside from the fact you didn't lead anything--and in fact are banned form Bombers Bar (which made for some pretty lulzy **** in the channel)--you have achieved nothing aside from saying, "We have lots of people, yay!"

Show me the contracts for being a "merc". The only one you took you bitched out of because no one would fight you, in Syndicate. You talk about contracts, but there was never a real enforcement of any type of mercenary work.

As for the OpSec thing, yes. There was a lot of drama over that, enough-so that Ezek even bitched about it, and took you to task for it on comms. You took my operation under the pretense of "it isn't being run properly" and jumped the gun.

By the way, they had some shiny Lokis. Too bad you weren't involved.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.

Seraph IX Basarab

Outer Path

Seraphim Division

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#25 - 2013-05-14 04:41:54 UTC

You came out a handful of times, probably one of the first times you left high sec as you noted. Were you there for our Providence campaign? Sits at 87 percent +, did you contribute? Where you present in Syndicate? Where you present anywhere? Let's see where you were...

March:

http://hades.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=661244&m=3&y=2013

37 kills and all of them in Dodi.

http://hades.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16863013

This nano lolfit Punisher in OMS is the only evidence that you even hobbled out of Dodi at all whatsoever.

April:

http://hades.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=661244&m=4&y=2013

45 kills, only 23 of them not in Dodi. And the 23 you did get was with condor bar which you just got done trash talking me for only flying with them.

losses http://hades.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=661244&view=losses&m=4&y=2013

A bit better...but seriously stop nano fitting armor AFs.

All this leads me to the question of...what did you ever contribute? What did you ever do? You can talk crap on me all you want about issues you, as always, have little perspective on, but at the end of the day it would be nice to know where you were.

Lastly, I don't know what sort of imagination you are using to claim that Ezek took me or anyone to task on comms about OpSec because the entire time he, along with just about everyone else was screaming at me to drop you. But that event literally never happened.

Balthazar Lestrane

Dirt 'n' Glitter

Local Is Primary

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#26 - 2013-05-14 09:48:47 UTC | Edited by: Balthazar Lestrane

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Pulled from a corp-wide EVE Mail sent by Quendishir(a.k.a. Anya Kilbor). API available on request for proof.

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We are a cloaky-centric mercenary corp that operates in all areas of space but primarily in low and nullsec. To quote the well-spoken Ezek Price:

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Hades Effect is a professional mercenary corp specialising in covert and black ops operations. We operate a large fleet of Black Ops ships with a bomber/recon force to boot and is able to adapt as is necessary.

There's a few key words there. Covert/Black Ops operations. Bomber/recons. Are we going to feebly attempt to activate our bomb launchers in high sec so that Aura can tell us in her sexy voice that we can't perform said actions because it's banned in Empire space? I think not. Are we going to hot drop Industrial Command Ships in high security space? Oh, wait.. you can't bridge into high security space..

You need be more forward thinking Quendishir and less ego-centric if you're going to get anywhere in this game. Why in the pod would you expect us to be just a high security cloakyfag mercenary corporation?

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I have had very limited participation with the corporation, not taking part in operations being run, and in general not really caring.

Find me one corporation (dummy/holding/alt corps excluded) that would deem this kind of attitude acceptable. No corporation can be successful or survive without dedicated, commited membership. Healthy attitudes can go a very long way, Quen. Put yourself in another's shoes, forgive mistakes but most of all remain humble and recognize that EVE is a game to be enjoyed.. you did nothing but herd the Drama Llama into Hades and hinder others from enjoying it.

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Balthazar Lestrane

Dirt 'n' Glitter

Local Is Primary

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#27 - 2013-05-14 09:49:38 UTC | Edited by: Balthazar Lestrane

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I want to see more participation from people. I am looking at our numbers, and our killboard. We have very few active pilots compared to everything else. We have 42 members in this corporation, and the same people are showing up on the top 10 on the killboard month after month. That needs to change, and right now! I am not one for requiring participation in operations, but you joined a corporation. You are expected to help it out. If you aren't, then why are you here? For a lower tax rate? I would be okay with a 50% tax rate, to be honest. Push the carebears out of here!

Says the pilot who goes an entire month with nothing but high security kills in trade hubs. You're the carebear, Quendishir. And that's fine, because that's what Hades Effect is about. Acceptance and understanding. Why should we try to take away someone else's fun? That's a **** move and makes you a **** pilot. There are other pilots in Hades Effect who hold similar interests in high security dueling/griefing at trade hubs. But they also participate extensively with corporation operations. They will jump into a bomber at a moment's notice to go to low security or null security space. Contract or not, we have quality membership and more importantly, we have quality human beings who genuinely care for one another. You did not exhibit this in any form.

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Either way, people need to be ready to help us with our operations. This is coming from me, I know. But I'll tell you what: last night I destroyed my HG Crystal implants. I replaced them with +4 implants, to take away the only in-game excuse I had for not working with the corporation more often. I destroyed over 2-bil in implants to show my commitment to this corporation, and I intend to show it.

What have you done to show it?

I will never stop flailing on the ground in tears of laughter over this. I can't. It speaks for itself. Quen.. you've been playing this game a lot longer than I have.. don't you know there are free jumpclone services all over the cluster?

And what happened after you did this? You joined us on roams with Condor Bar with overly-fitted Pirate Faction frigates and threw **** fits when you got them blown up because FC didn't make saving your ass a top priority. Condor Bar is primarily a T1 frigate bar channel, open for newer players to get a taste of PvP with competent Fleet Commanders. You were foolish to bring that Worm and even more so to pimp it the way you did. High sec dueling is not the same as low/nullsec PvP. You call us risk adverse but as someone fairly new to the PvP experience in EVE, you are the one who is risk adverse as Seraph so clearly pointed out.

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Show me the contracts for being a "merc". The only one you took you bitched out of because no one would fight you, in Syndicate. You talk about contracts, but there was never a real enforcement of any type of mercenary work.

Had you actually participated in that operation you would have learned that the targets our employers hired us to track and kill were scared of us. There was no bitching out. We decided that in lieu of targets to pew at we would rather solve the situation diplomatically than bore ourselves ship spinning and waiting for targets that would not undock. That is part of the services we offer, diplomacy.

If anyone doubts my word or any other Hades Effect members, look at my own killboard. Look at my toon's age. That is what Hades Effect can offer, not this slimey bull**** that Quendishir loves to moan about.

Stop posting in our advertisement Quen, I don't have the time to point out in another 6000 character post about how you're full of ****.

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Tah'ris Khlador

Space Ghosts.

Break-A-Wish Foundation

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#28 - 2013-05-14 12:34:40 UTC

Seraph IX Basarab wrote:

Tah'ris Khlador wrote:

And it's funny, because I'm pretty sure every merc group told you to F* off.

Wow Anya, you really hit their buttons.

excerpt from Seraph manifesto wrote:

Dated March 7th, 2013.

What if we could offer our services not as separate entities but as a unified mercenary coalition? What if we were contracted as a whole to attack 0.0 alliances en masse from our various vantage points crippling our target on all fronts (Hisec, Losec, W-space, 0.0)? What if we had mass media such as EveNews24 to shed light on our accomplishment and allow us to be well known? What if we had someone who can coordinate these different factors into viable campaigns where we could bring our various strengths to the table and shake up the Eve Universe like Seleene’s Mercenary Coalition of long ago?

[...]

4. Each Alliance/corp will have a representative that I will work with planning objectives and carrying them out. Things like FCs, specific tactics and strategies, goals, logistics, will be discussed on a base by base situation together.

That still reads as you being "Dear Leader." Why did it fail Seraph? WHY?

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance

Seraph IX Basarab

Outer Path

Seraphim Division

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#29 - 2013-05-14 13:58:33 UTC

Tah i'm not even really sure who you are or what your personal problem happens to be on this particular day. I offered to have us work together and that i'd help coordinate some planning. Sorry if that translated into "i'm going to rule you" in your inferiority complex ego driven mind.

In any case, wasn't this like two months ago? It's cute that you'd keep the momento Oops

for so long but either ask me out to dinner or stop being a bother.

culo duro

Center for Advanced Studies

Gallente Federation

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#30 - 2013-05-14 14:15:36 UTC

Seraph IX Basarab wrote:

for so long but either ask me out to dinner or stop being a bother.

Will you go out with me?

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.com

Tah'ris Khlador

Space Ghosts.

Break-A-Wish Foundation

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#31 - 2013-05-14 15:14:42 UTC

Seraph IX Basarab wrote:

for so long but either ask me out to dinner or stop being a bother.

I keep your manifesto eve-mail because it is adorable. It is also the only reason I've ever paid attention to you, because it painted a big "please talk to me because I'm good for drama" sign on your back.

Also, let's go to Olive Garden, I hear they have cheap wine. Culo can come too.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance

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Jayne Fillon Likes received: 841	#32 - 2013-05-14 15:22:25 UTC 1 > gets popcorn Can't shoot blues if you don't have any. Long Live NPSI.

Anya Klibor

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic

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#33 - 2013-05-14 17:18:14 UTC

To make sure that we are on the same page, and to make sure that people are aware of the entirety of the e-mail (because we all want transparency!), I am offering the following since Balth conveniently snipped portions that didn't help him:

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When I joined this corporation, I was under the impression that it was a high-sec mercenary corporation with a specialty niche that was not being filled by others. Since then, I have come to understand that is not the case, and I have accepted it. In general since joining, I have had very limited participation with the corporation, not taking part in operations being run, and in general not really caring. I am a high-sec guy, who flies ships made for high-sec dueling and fights. Anyone who looks at my killboard can see the kills and losses from Dodixie and a few from Hek.

This character was not a combat pilot for the longest time. The only reason I have a positive killboard is because of one legitimate Nyx kill from a couple of years back, and someone from Noir Academy doctoring a second Nyx kill because it self-destructed successfully. When this character was a combat pilot, he was a frigate pilot, glying assault frigates, interceptors, and T1 frigates predominantly in Caldari and Gallente militias. Needless to say, I am familiar with the area around the Caldari/Gallente warzone. I know the pirates. I know their tricks.

For over a year, though, I have let this character act as my neutral eyes and prober in war decs. He has been a logistics pilot as well--he has Logistics 5, after all. That has changed since joining Hades Effect, and while I may not have the most kills, I have worked to improve combat doctrine and fits, and see the limits that people have when it comes to fighting.

As I said, I have not been the most active person around when it comes to corp participation. I can make upall the excuses I want: null sec worries me, I've been taking care of classes and moving IRL, etc. But at the end of the day I have to accept that I have not been active, and nothing can change that. Over the past two evenings, I have been flying with Condor Bar and the corporation, getting kills in low sec. I have provided a niche role in my interceptor, having provided stable points against people that threatened to get away. I have enjoyed it immensely. That is what EvE is about: finding fights, not sitting on an undock and waiting for someone to blink yellow or red.

Many of you I do see in high sec. You fly around in artillery ships, or beam laser ships, or railguns looking to pop people who go suspect. You are risk adverse. You are a carebear, and I have said that since Day 1. I have no respect for you because you are a coward if you do this. When you do nothing else, I have to fight the very real urge to blow your ship up and pod you, because I HATE seeing people with my corp tag acting like carebears. I join PvP corporations. Make all the excuses you want that you are engaging in PvP, but we all know that when someone looks at you the wrong way, you're burning away and warping off. You are a coward, end of dicussion.

If that offended you, I don't care. That's off my chest. We'll get dec'd eventually if you keep this up, and we all know you'll drop corporation when we do.

I want to see more participation from people. I am looking at our numbers, and our killboard. We have very few active pilots compared to everything else. We have 42 members in this corporation, and the same people are showing up on the top 10 on the killboard month after month. That needs to change, and right now! I am not one for requiring participation in operations, but you joined a corporation. You are expected to help it out. If you aren't, then why are you here? For a lower tax rate? I would be okay with a 50% tax rate, to be honest. Push the carebears out of here!

Either way, people need to be ready to help us with our operations. This is coming from me, I know. But I'll tell you what: last night I destroyed my HG Crystal implants. I replaced them with +4 implants, to take away the only in-game excuse I had for not working with the corporation more often. I destroyed over 2-bil in implants to show my commitment to this corporation, and I intend to show it.

What have you done to show it?

People took offense to this. How dare this upstart come in and tell me I haven't done anything? It was true, all of it. Seraph even admitted as much in his response. Hell, two members even left because of a lack of corp participation, and one was a director (who was supposed to be coming back "in a month" according to Seraph....two months ago). As I said, Seraph agreed that it was, and after corp-wide e-mails from certain high-sec bads sitting in arty ships shooting suspects he finally had to respond in a mail to shut them up. Posting that next post.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.

Anya Klibor

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic

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#34 - 2013-05-14 17:27:24 UTC

From Seraph:

Quote:

Stop...
From: Seraph IX Basarab
Sent: 2013.04.22 03:04
To: Hades Effect,

...antagonizing one another. You aren't in comptetition against your corpmates. The competition is against external enemies. You should help each other grow in a positive manner. Why pick at one another's weaknesses when those weaknesses are all over ours shared? The immature **** stops right here.

I'll be honest with everyone right here. For a bit I may be able to log on only once every two, three or even four or so days. If you choose to act disrespectful toward your corpmates, Ezek has my full blessing to swing hard. He never injected the patience skill book and I don't think he's interested in starting either.

This is our code of ethics to be followed on pain of being booted. If that's an issue with you, I respectfully ask that you not waste our or your time. Still being a very small corp we need individuals of quality much more than any quantity.

Local
- No smacktalking in local
- Be respectful, you may talk but do so constructively
- While on contract, observe radio silence in local

Operational Security (OPSEC)
- Never discuss corporation level operations with anyone else not cleared to assist and come with us
- Never discuss contract specifics with anyone
- Dont hand out our teamspeak server details

Ransoms
- Honour your ransoms
- Ransom money must be paid by the victim in ONE transaction. If the ransom money is not paid in full, you are authorised to fire
- If the victim is killed by one of your fleet after ransom has been paid you must pay the blood money back to the victim IN FULL

Communications
- Be in the River Styx Pub to assist anyone coming in for contracts or recruitment
- Do not discuss operations in the River Styx Pub
- Alts are to be in the Shiez Kuzak channel
- Be on our Hades Effect teamspeak server at least in Semi-AFK so you can be poked

Killboard
- ON contract you must observe excellent ISK efficiency and stringent doctrine fits. Be aggressive, be adventurous but don't do anything stupid. Do what works.
- OFF contract you may experiment and goof around but nothing stupid silly please...
- KILLS COME BEFORE ISK MAKING
- If a brother cannot be PVP because ISK is getting in the way, you will help him. No one in this corp will be disadvantaged because of ISK concerns.

- Corporation level operations come before everything else in EVE.

There were no mercenary contracts. Oh, there was talk of them happening, but at the end of the day, everyone else moved to Bei for some operation that was hinted at but never materialized. Now they're setting up to "take Molden Heath", which won't happen. No one has the balls to lead a fleet, and anyone who actually attempts a bit of initiative has their balls stepped on by Seraph and his need to micromanage everything.

Marines hate officers like Seraph, because they get men killed. They are unimaginative. They are linear in thinking. They are, simply put, ineffective.

I had no problems with these rules, except one. Aside form PvPing in Dodixie, I also ran Incursions. I had Balthazar ask me for ISK at least twice in private, and I refused. I don't hand out ISK except to my friends (I remember one year I bought ten people in my corporation pirate battleship hulls with Tech 2 rigs). When this came out, it was a not-so-subtle jab at those of us making ISK to support our PvP habits. People were being lazy, and they needed handouts. I wasn't giving them. In fact, the corp taxes were raised specifically to gather the money I was making (it was raised to 10%) because I wouldn't hand it out freely. My response was as follows:

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Re: Stop...
From: Quendishir
Sent: 2013.04.22 18:35
To: Hades Effect, Seraph IX Basarab,

If people are having ISK problems, they should probably use their free time to make some freaking ISK. It's not hard. I've been running Incursions the past few days and walked away with over a billion ISK. It's easy freaking money, and it's not hard to figure out what to do. Join an Incursion group, get into fleets. Prove yourself. Do not expect handouts because we wear the same corporation tag. I am not buying you a fully-fit bomber because you don't want to do misisons or something. You have ways to make ISK aplenty, use them.

YOU MUST BE ISK SUFFICIENT. You cannot join a PvP corporation and not be!

This was th straw that broke the proverbial camel's back. I don't hand out ISK and should not be expected to. Some communist manifesto expecting me to wasn't going to fly. When I was kicked yesterday, it was for bitching about how the corp didn't live up to it's namesake (and yes, I have the damn chat logs saved). It was for telling it like it is. In return for voicing my concerns (something that Serpah said we should feel comfortable in doing), I received this:

Boosting Damnation

The Damnation I offered to the corp, free of charge for their PvP was destroyed by the corp, simply because I hurt their feelings. I voiced my concerns and bitched them out for their thinking. I bitched them out for, simply put, being a lie. I met the response head-on. I lost a ship that cost me pennies, but I made the point far better than I expected.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.

Viziam Amarr Empire 4,872
Cannibal Kane Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 4,872	#35 - 2013-05-14 18:10:04 UTC Who can't people that do the same thing ever get along? But lets not bemoan a corp ability on the very threat they use to get contracts. People will pay whoever they want based on past performances and KB stats. Let them decide, and lets not bring drama into these threads. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Anya Klibor

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic

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#36 - 2013-05-14 18:48:02 UTC | Edited by: Anya Klibor

Cannibal Kane wrote:

Who can't people that do the same thing ever get along?

But lets not bemoan a corp ability on the very threat they use to get contracts. People will pay whoever they want based on past performances and KB stats.

Let them decide, and lets not bring drama into these threads.

You can't be a merc corp is people refuse to hire you.

Merc Operations 101.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.


Jayne Fillon Likes received: 841	#37 - 2013-05-14 19:41:24 UTC >runs out of popcorn >gets more popcorn > >munchmunchmunchmunchmunch Can't shoot blues if you don't have any. Long Live NPSI.

Balthazar Lestrane

Dirt 'n' Glitter

Local Is Primary

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#38 - 2013-05-14 19:47:54 UTC

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I had no problems with these rules, except one. Aside form PvPing in Dodixie, I also ran Incursions. I had Balthazar ask me for ISK at least twice in private, and I refused. I don't hand out ISK except to my friends (I remember one year I bought ten people in my corporation pirate battleship hulls with Tech 2 rigs). When this came out, it was a not-so-subtle jab at those of us making ISK to support our PvP habits. People were being lazy, and they needed handouts. I wasn't giving them. In fact, the corp taxes were raised specifically to gather the money I was making (it was raised to 10%) because I wouldn't hand it out freely.

Prove it, you lying sack of ****. I've already admitted that I complained several times that I was low on funds because most of my capital was going to build Hades ships. Nothing more. Never once did I ask your slimely Incursion carebearing ass for ISK. You threw a ***** fit because Seraph asked us to help corpmates out if they were having problems with ISK for the purpose of PvPing. REAL PvPing. Not your high sec faggotry. And if you had logged at all in the past month, you'd know that no one in corp ever had issues with ships or fits.

So, please. If I privately (hmm.. that's an interesting way to put it.. how convenient..hmm?) asked you for ISK, prove it. Otherwise keep the sack of **** lies to yourself and stop this childish behavior.

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I omitted portions of that mail because they were irrelevant and because EVE Forums have a 6000 character limit. I don't have the time nor the patience to point out every flaw in your character. You do yourself no kindness by continuing this and have bought yourself a lifetime vendetta. Remember Quen, SP doesn't make you a good capsuleer, dedication and commitment do. Retribution will run it's course.

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Marines hate officers like Seraph, because they get men killed. They are unimaginative. They are linear in thinking. They are, simply put, ineffective.

Civilians hate people like you. You are narrow-minded and elitist. You are clumsy and no amount of SP will make up for your lack of insight or poor character. This is not the military, this is internet spaceships. If you want the military, re-enlist. Maybe they will help you learn honesty and commitment.

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The Damnation I offered to the corp, free of charge for their PvP was destroyed by the corp, simply because I hurt their feelings. I voiced my concerns and bitched them out for their thinking. I bitched them out for, simply put, being a lie. I met the response head-on. I lost a ship that cost me pennies, but I made the point far better than I expected.

No one's feelings were hurt, Quen. No one liked you. All you did was *****. On comms. In corp chat. You called corp members out for taking part in activities they enjoy doing. You did all this while contributing nothing but negativity to the corp.

Cry about your Damnation all you want. You were given fair warning to dock up and get booted. You ignored such warnings and harassed us in corp chat while being ignorant enough to drift your Command Ship 250 kilometers off Dodi's hub station. You gave us no choice. You even failed at logistics, trying to rep your Armor Tanked Damnation with a Shield Repping Scythe. You fail at EVE. Go back to your carebear Incursions and high sec "PvP". Most of all, stop lying about non-existent events. You reap what you sow Quendishir.

Anya Klibor

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic

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#39 - 2013-05-14 20:00:40 UTC | Edited by: Anya Klibor

And yet here you are, with great walls of text, telling us how you don't care. How none of you care.

I really got under your skin. Your language shows it. :)

Edit: I used a Scimitar for lulz. I was losing the Damnation, I didn't mind. As I said, pennies in my bank. Honestly, I think my friends who laughed at how terrible you all continue to be were more pissed about it then I was.

Oh, and when I docked, no kick. I even came back out in a Maelstrom, to which you all promptly hid from.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.


Tah'ris Khlador Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation Likes received: 1,331	#40 - 2013-05-14 21:10:16 UTC Jayne Fillon wrote: >runs out of popcorn >gets more popcorn > >munchmunchmunchmunchmunch Pass me some? My posts seem irrelevant now. Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance

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