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Does Tengu Need a Nerf?
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Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#41 - 2011-11-03 17:54:12 UTC
Widemouth Deepthroat wrote:
Nerf 100mn AB Tengu!! Isk shouldn't buy you such an advantage over other players!!


Agreed, fitting over sized prop mods on ships should be removed
Botleten
Perkone
Caldari State
#42 - 2011-11-03 17:54:51 UTC
As it is the Tengu isnt terribly much greater than other T2 cruisers... not that Im saying it needs to be buffed, but if nerfed it definitely wouldnt be worth the excessive cost. If anything, the other 3 T3 cruisers need to be buffed and Tengu left as is.
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
Doomheim
#43 - 2011-11-03 18:00:52 UTC
Tengu is not the best pve ship by a lone way. Try a faction Battleship if you really what to see DPS


Second Tengu is just fine for deep nullsec roams

first of to fit a cloak/nullifer you have to gimp the DPS

second you will run out of missiles very quickly so its not like you can spend very long there at all


Keep it as it is

Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words
Barakkus
#44 - 2011-11-03 18:04:05 UTC
Generals4 wrote:
Psychophantic wrote:
Don't nerf the Tengu.

Buff the Loki.


The loki is better at PvP than the Tengu, no need for it to get buffed.



boooooooooooo

BUFF THE LOKI

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Chi Ftele
Doomheim
#45 - 2011-11-03 18:05:40 UTC
well yeah it's massively expensive and you lose skills if it dies, I think the power is justified

That is all.
Froz3nEcho Sarain
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2011-11-03 18:07:40 UTC
Chi Ftele wrote:
well yeah it's massively expensive and you lose skills if it dies, I think the power is justified


Then give that power to the other T3's as well. Legion for example lol.

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Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#47 - 2011-11-03 19:16:06 UTC
For what it is, and what its used for, the Tengu is fine. It's PvE anyways, what do you care? After flying one for awhile, I'm finding that I miss the Raven for doing missions. In one fully loaded cruise rack, I can take out three BS rats to the Tengu's one and a half per loaded rack of heavy missiles. It's not OP.
"If."
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#48 - 2011-11-03 19:21:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanya Powers
Tengu is fine, the problem is all other T3's are just good for specific role or maybe 2 while they're supposed to be VERSATILE.

Tengu IS versatile and a very good ship for pve/pvp, all others don't, that's why they should be buffed at Tengu level.
Gempei
Marvinovi pratele
#49 - 2011-11-03 19:27:55 UTC
Tanya wrote:
Tengu IS versatile and a very good ship for pve/pvp, all others don't, that's why they should be buffed at Tengu level.

+1
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#50 - 2011-11-03 19:29:01 UTC
Chi Ftele wrote:
well yeah it's massively expensive and you lose skills if it dies, I think the power is justified


If you can't manage to "eject" before you explode you deserve to loose 1 level random sub. 4 days to train it again Roll
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#51 - 2011-11-03 19:29:33 UTC
Widemouth Deepthroat wrote:
Nerf 100mn AB Tengu!! Isk shouldn't buy you such an advantage over other players!!


Let's just remove ISK too then!

Yay!

... idiot.

Katrina Oniseki
Mystical Might
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#52 - 2011-11-03 19:32:09 UTC
I see This chain occuring;


Nerf the Tengu!!
Ohno, Now Loki is OP. Nerf the Loki!!
Ohno, Now the Legion is OP, Nerf the Legion !!!
Ohno, Now the Proteus is OP, Nerf the Proteus!!
Ohno, Now the Tengu is OP, Nerf the Tengu!!

Just imagine it repeated down the page.
OR, you can accept that different ships are good at different things and move on?
Or fly a different ship.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#53 - 2011-11-03 19:33:50 UTC
Mystical Might wrote:
I see This chain occuring;


Nerf the Tengu!!
Ohno, Now Loki is OP. Nerf the Loki!!
Ohno, Now the Legion is OP, Nerf the Legion !!!
Ohno, Now the Proteus is OP, Nerf the Proteus!!
Ohno, Now the Tengu is OP, Nerf the Tengu!!

Just imagine it repeated down the page.
OR, you can accept that different ships are good at different things and move on?
Or fly a different ship.


Even though you're a dirty -10 to me, I agree with you, you naughty little red.

Katrina Oniseki
Mystical Might
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#54 - 2011-11-03 19:35:02 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:


Even though you're a dirty -10 to me, I agree with you, you naughty little red.



Much Love, Silly Little Orange. Big smile
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#55 - 2011-11-03 19:39:09 UTC
Mystical Might wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:


Even though you're a dirty -10 to me, I agree with you, you naughty little red.



Much Love, Silly Little Orange. Big smile


Oh, please touch me. Touch me all over with your autocannons!

Katrina Oniseki
Mystical Might
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#56 - 2011-11-03 19:49:48 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Mystical Might wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:


Even though you're a dirty -10 to me, I agree with you, you naughty little red.



Much Love, Silly Little Orange. Big smile


Oh, please touch me. Touch me all over with your autocannons!



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Jita Alt666
#57 - 2011-11-03 19:55:04 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
What does it matter which ship is best for PvE?
Yes. The paper scissors rock balance should apply to specific pve uses as well as pvp.
The problem is that in in PvE, there is no paper or scissors, and the Tengu just happens to be granite compared to the Legion's sandstone.


By rock paper scissors pve I mean:
Tengu: Best in Caldari space. Terrible in Gallente space. Below average in Minmatar space. Above average in Amarr space
Loki: Bestt in Minmatar space. Terrible in Amarr space. Above average in Gallente Space. Below average in Caldari space
Proetues: Best in Gallente Space. Terrible in Caldari Space. Above average in Minmatar space. Below average in Amarr space
Legion: Best in Amarr space. Terrible in Minmatar space. Above average in Caldari space. below Average in Gallente space.

Yes I know that doesn't really happen - but it I like the idea.
Hungry Eyes
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2011-11-03 20:20:09 UTC
Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:
the same dumb threads over again and over again like afk cloaky and tengu nerfs threads


im speaking about PVE strictly. there's no reason to fly another cruiser hull in PVE.
Hungry Eyes
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2011-11-03 20:20:55 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
Tengu is fine, the problem is all other T3's are just good for specific role or maybe 2 while they're supposed to be VERSATILE.

Tengu IS versatile and a very good ship for pve/pvp, all others don't, that's why they should be buffed at Tengu level.



or this, agreed.
Haulin Aussie
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2011-11-03 20:40:34 UTC
Hungry Eyes wrote:
Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:
the same dumb threads over again and over again like afk cloaky and tengu nerfs threads


im speaking about PVE strictly. there's no reason to fly another cruiser hull in PVE.




Ishtar is much cheaper, has a little less dps, but will run pretty much anything outside of wormhole space without too much trouble.

If your trying to say buff the other t3's then meh. Caldari have always been the best for pve, you can switch damage types on the fly, and the tengu really only has a good tank with a rather expensive faction booster.

By making the tengu worse for pve people will just move on to something else, and someone else will make the same complaint you are. It's really a non issue.