EVE General Discussion

As you may of guessed by the topic im one of those old vets well passed 100 million sp ( not sure if i should laugth or cry ) any way i like to pvp how ever im not all that well off isk wise half of the problem being my clone costing more than my ship does half the time .

With the next expansion adding more free sp my clones will most likely be costing 45 million each and even more for players even older than me. i have the skills to fly the ships i want but it hardly seems worth it when one dicter bouble equels im f**ked

With full set of implants +4s im looking at 100 million isk if i die thats one hell of a death penalty. Clone cost need to be reduced or caped to a level were its not a detriment to pvp.

TL;DR clones cost to dam much if your a vet

So make an alt. Super cheap clone.

No one says you have to keep training your original toon.

100m isn't that harsh of a death penalty. That's 1-2 hours for a vet who has no good source of income, and damn near inconsequential for many 100m sp players. Honestly, I've played many "carebear" fantasy MMOs with harsher death penalties...

This is an interesting point of view. Can't wait for the answer.

He is probably so vet he never heard of jumpclones. take it easy on him guys.

its called limited time to play or IRL things to do.

I do see every ones point about haveing 100mil sp and not haveing isk but my point is not about my personal income but the cost of clones for older players being more of a punishment for playing a long time than a reward.

Adding reduced clone costs based on faction standing for example would help.

Poasting in: "clone costs are too damn high" thread #7973428

It's not a punishment, it's a risk. Your reward for taking that risk is your participation in enjoyable PvP activities.

Sorry for the snark, but clone costs can be 0 for you, quite easily: just don't renew your clone after your first death, and voila 100+ million savings!!!

You lose 5 million SP's each death from ONE skill, and you only have a few skills that have that many SP's, so after you lose those you will lose a lot less than 5 million SP each death, making it better and better.

EDIT: On a more serious note, you lose 5% of the skillpoints not covered, so you also have the option of buying the 70 mil SP clone instead of the more expensive one, and then you only lose 1.5 mil SP / death.

I completely agree with the OP; it's a pretty terrible game mechanic. To all you derpers who are calling him space-poor and bragging about your wallets, would your argument still stand if you had to pay six billion for a 90m-SP clone? Give me a break. It's obvious you draw the line somewhere, and your guiding factor is the amount of pods you lose on a regular basis. This guy might be losing five clones a day. Paying a third of a billion for something like this is completely nonsensical. It doesn't matter how cheap you find the costs; this is something that exists for the sake of interfering with pvp-oriented players' ability to do their thing, and the last thing this game needs is less pvp. Go mine some more Veldspar.

Then again, CCP has adjusted clone pricing before, so they might do it again.