These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
123Next pageLast page
 

Woot, woot. Now even easier to get out of a war dec.

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-05-14 17:20:48 UTC
According to latest dev blog, the need to wait 24 hours between dropping roles and quitting a player corp, is being removed.

War dec? Insta-drop corp to NPC corp.

SWEET!
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#2 - 2013-05-14 17:25:48 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
According to latest dev blog, the need to wait 24 hours between dropping roles and quitting a player corp, is being removed.

War dec? Insta-drop corp to NPC corp.

SWEET!


Um... Any target that did not have rolls could have done so before. Now granted for a small group, this makes escaping war decs easier, for the majority, this is a nice change. I like it.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2013-05-14 17:27:03 UTC
:Cripes:


Unless in the next blog wars start instantly this is a pants on head move.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#4 - 2013-05-14 17:36:50 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
:Cripes:


Unless in the next blog wars start instantly this is a pants on head move.


Why? Because one small group can escape war decs with the same ease as the vast majority of corp members? Perhaps, instead if looking at the narrow view of "oh boo hoo, the hi sec Indy corp I war decced all ran away", look at the boarder view of people happily dropping a defunct corp quickly and moving to a more active, enjoyable one.

Plus, awoxers can no longer be trapped in a corp for an extra day by giving them a useless role.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-05-14 17:44:01 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
:Cripes:


Unless in the next blog wars start instantly this is a pants on head move.


Plus, awoxers can no longer be trapped in a corp for an extra day by giving them a useless role.


Can you indefinitely lock someone in your corp by giving them new roles every time they drop the one they have?
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-05-14 17:46:35 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
:Cripes:


Unless in the next blog wars start instantly this is a pants on head move.


Plus, awoxers can no longer be trapped in a corp for an extra day by giving them a useless role.


Can you indefinitely lock someone in your corp by giving them new roles every time they drop the one they have?

devblog said you can leave at all times. even with roles.
you cannot be kicked with roles

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#7 - 2013-05-14 17:49:42 UTC
When this gets out, I predict a short in the noob harvest futures. Better sell now.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-05-14 17:52:46 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
According to latest dev blog, the need to wait 24 hours between dropping roles and quitting a player corp, is being removed.

War dec? Insta-drop corp to NPC corp.

SWEET!


Come on, this feature has so many upsides, that THAT particular downside doesn't spoil it. Members without roles did that already.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#9 - 2013-05-14 17:55:12 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
:Cripes:


Unless in the next blog wars start instantly this is a pants on head move.


I call it "buffing corp theft" lol
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-05-14 17:58:40 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Can you indefinitely lock someone in your corp by giving them new roles every time they drop the one they have?
No. When you drop roles, you will also set a flag that blocks all future roles. Only the player himself can remove that flag.
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-05-14 18:00:51 UTC
Karsa Egivand wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
According to latest dev blog, the need to wait 24 hours between dropping roles and quitting a player corp, is being removed.

War dec? Insta-drop corp to NPC corp.

SWEET!


Come on, this feature has so many upsides, that THAT particular downside doesn't spoil it. Members without roles did that already.



Downside? What downside?
LittleTerror
Stygian Systems
#12 - 2013-05-14 18:03:12 UTC  |  Edited by: LittleTerror
LHA Tarawa wrote:
According to latest dev blog, the need to wait 24 hours between dropping roles and quitting a player corp, is being removed.

War dec? Insta-drop corp to NPC corp.

SWEET!


Yeah but they were going to stay docked and leave after 24 hours to avoid the war in anyway.

But leaving corp and reforming under a new corp is what really pisses me off since the intention of the war is to destroy a corp in most cases and I think there should be an ability to wardec a single player. Who if then joins a corp the aggressor will be given the option to upgrade the war for the usual cost of wardeccing a corp, that would prevent it being miss used.

/edit

Also if corp A war decs corp B and corp B members leave they should still be valid wartargets, and any corp they create for upto 1 week will automatically become a war target.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#13 - 2013-05-14 18:03:39 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
LHA Tarawa wrote:
According to latest dev blog, the need to wait 24 hours between dropping roles and quitting a player corp, is being removed.

War dec? Insta-drop corp to NPC corp.

SWEET!


I hear it doesn't actually work yet for director roles.
It was such a May 6th stealth buff/nerf it was bugged out Blink
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-05-14 18:05:38 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Perhaps, instead if looking at the narrow view of "oh boo hoo, the hi sec Indy corp I war decced all ran away", look at the boarder view of people happily dropping a defunct corp quickly and moving to a more active, enjoyable one.


What makes you think the corp they are dropping is defunct... or in fact that they are moving to a different group at all.

It is a common strategy to have at least 2 in-game corps for one carebear group. War dec comes in, create a new temp corp, move everyone into it. That new corp get war dec also, just create yet another new corp.

Dec all you want... I can make a new corp every time you dec the corp we're all in. Cheaper for me to make a new corp than for you to dec it.

Heck, I can even un-rent my station office and re-rent it with the new corp.

Just need one place holder to hold open the "real" corp and keep the POSes fueled until we can all come back.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#15 - 2013-05-14 18:07:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Corey Fumimasa
Corp roles have always been a pain in the arse. You join a corp temporarily and the CEO gets the ability to stick you there for 24 hours. This is a great change.

But you are correct about people escaping war decs. Maybe NPC stations should have a 1million m3 storage capacity and a tax on that. So that wealthy players will have to store their ships and goods in a POS, which is always vulnerable to a war dec.

That would enable new characters to escape an unwanted dec and at the same time allow older characters to pay their fair share of sink. Also it would reward those players who choose to engage and participate rather than complain endlessly about being in an MMO that rewards people for interacting.
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-05-14 18:09:24 UTC
LittleTerror wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
According to latest dev blog, the need to wait 24 hours between dropping roles and quitting a player corp, is being removed.

War dec? Insta-drop corp to NPC corp.

SWEET!


Yeah but they were going to stay docked and leave after 24 hours to avoid the war in anyway.

But leaving corp and reforming under a new corp is what really pisses me off since the intention of the war is to destroy a corp in most cases and I think there should be an ability to wardec a single player. Who if then joins a corp the aggressor will be given the option to upgrade the war for the usual cost of wardeccing a corp, that would prevent it being miss used.

/edit

Also if corp A war decs corp B and corp B members leave they should still be valid wartargets, and any corp they create for upto 1 week will automatically become a war target.



Not miss use. Working as intended.

Your goal in war decing may be to kill a corp. My goal is to not have my corp killed. You use a strategy, and I use a counter. I win. No need to change the rules.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
Two Vargurs one Hole
#17 - 2013-05-14 18:10:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
For wardecs, well I think they will remove NPC corps except starter schools soon so maybe they did this in light of this, but, it's a good thing because it's another annoying p/o/s 24 hour wait that made no sense.
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-05-14 18:11:41 UTC  |  Edited by: LHA Tarawa
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Corp roles have always been a pain in the arse. You join a corp temporarily and the CEO gets the ability to stick you there for 24 hours. This is a great change.

But you are correct about people escaping war decs. Maybe NPC stations should have a 1million m3 storage capacity and a tax on that. So that wealthy players will have to store their ships and goods in a POS, which is always vulnerable to a war dec.

That would enable new characters to escape an unwanted dec and at the same time allow older characters to pay their fair share of sink. Also it would reward those players who choose to engage and participate rather than complain endlessly about being in an MMO that rewards people for interacting.



So, I use an alt to hold open the player corp and refuel the POS, give myself the password to my alt's POS, and still be in NPC corp, or newly formed corp, and use the POS of my war dec'ed alt.

Not sure you thought this through.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#19 - 2013-05-14 18:13:30 UTC
I don't think that the purpose of a wardec is to destroy a corp. I wonder what it was originally envisioned as.
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-05-14 18:13:53 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
For wardecs, well I think they will remove NPC corps except starter schools soon.


Soon, as in, when Hell Freezes Over?

123Next pageLast page