Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Well there's some general truth to it.
That extra low is used up just to make up for the nerfs it got. Unless you put a magstab there it actually loses dmg.

For god sake .. that is pure whinage.. PLEASE>. I woudl love if CCP changed tempest DAMAGE bonus into another ROF bonus.

I LOVE the new Domi change. As a drone user it's exactly what that ship needed. And CCP doesn't NEED to respond to people that are upset that some ship they fly is getting changed from the status quo they've been used to for years. It is THEIR game, we just play it. Either adapt or not.

And no matter what you tell yourself RoF is superior DPS to the same % + damage buff. It doesn't matter if it costs more ammo or cap, it DOES increase the DPS output.

The problem with this quote is that you're flat out wrong. The new mega will be dishing MORE dps than the pre nerf mega while taking a very small ehp hit, and the loss of the nuet. The big kicker is that a much larger % of the ships overall damage will be coming from turrets which deal instant damage AND can be overheated further increasing the gap between pre change and post change megathron. The only suggestion I would make to the ship is to add another 25m3 drone bandwidth and to also swap the "roles" of the domi and mega. Mega should be the combat and domi the attack, domi has a far better slot layout to take advantage of that roll anyway.

As for the domi sucking... I guess... Max gank domi did receive a nerf which imo was not at all warranted however for the vasty majority of domi fits this is a rather significant buff. Significantly increased dps from "over sized" drones as well as 80km+ gardes (beast mode). All in all I think the whines are much more severe than any "nerf" this ship has seen.

Good for you because I basically sold my other battleships to buy more gallente battleships. you Know why? Because they are the BEST BY FAR!

Ok, after some EFTing I conclude:

Hype is the obvious king of small gang from these three. It could also be a solo battleship, however viable that concept even is. It's also the attack battleship from this batch, having comparable DPS, tracking and speed to the Mega (try it out yourself), but comes with a neut, cap life and better tank and sensors. Good speed, slot layout, drone bay and ease of tanking make it neat for PVE as well. Armor tanking was abandoned at 1.5, but at least on paper Hype seems to be perfectly capable of pulling off some epic tanking. I built 10 of these and look very much forward to flying it, it's one of the best looking hulls in game.

Domi is primarily for PVE, where it reigns supreme over all battleships except a select few marauders and pirate ships, until 2045 when drones are finally fixed. Then it will be boss in fleets as well, it has outrageous damage projection, there isn't anything comparable in game. It's also viable for small gangs (as it's always been), and even neuting if you can't fly a Bhaal or Geddon that is. Navy Domi stays ganky, so all is good in Domi world. Well, as good as it can be until drones are fixed.

One more time, drones need to be fixed. Start with sentry scooping

Mega is the best one for fleets. It does more damage with turrets than Hype. Whether or not null doctrines adopt it remains to be seen, but it has some strengths. Lack of neut and poor capacitor limit it's role in small gangs, unless you need a glass cannon. It does have the potential to lay down some serious hurt if the stars are aligned right, best large turret tracking combined with high RoF can spell doom to targets inside hard tackle range. Tough competition from the Hype, has to be tested on the field. Recent hull redesign managed to improve a classic shape to make it even sexier, would be lovely to fly it.

Battleship tiericide in general should have lifted the T1 ships to the level of the Navy battleships to improve their position among the other ship classes, but that didn't happen. These changes seem to be final as well, so signing off from this thread.

The biggest benefit to sentry drones, even before these changes, is the ability to assign them to an anchor and syncronise your drone damage across the whole fleet.

5x Garde II
2x Omnidirectionals II

This puts 550 dps out to 70km with almost twice the tracking of a mega pulse laser using scorch, and thats on the new navy apoc with the 37% tracking bonus. Not only that but the drones have 125m sig resolution on their weapon, which is equivalent to a cruiser sized weapon, compared to the 400 on a battleship sized weapon.


The other gallente ships are the big problems. The megathron is only worse now, 8 lows is nice but the lack of a utility high and a big dronebay causes problems. I'd rather see the bonus swapped to 10% hybrid falloff to give it some damage projection.

Right my mistake, i was thinking of Ogre II's. They have a sig res of 125, sig radius of 100.

Why use the Dominix when the Armageddon exists?

The Dominix has an extra mid slot. The Armageddon will have an extra high slot. I don't like the current implementation of sentry drones, so the range bonus of the drones won't help me much. However, there may be an occasion where the fifth mid slot is needed.